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Was "Tully Monster" a chordate?

Started by Halichoeres, March 16, 2016, 08:13:17 PM

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Halichoeres

I've alluded to this in other threads, but the conclusion of the "Tully Monster is a vertebrate" paper is very probably wrong. the Tully monster remains a mystery but might be a protostome.

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/pala.12282
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Another paper showing that the evidence for Tullimonstrum being a chordate, let alone a vertebrate, is pretty weak. The melanin-deposition patterns in the eyes turn out to not be unique to vertebrates, and are described here in cephalopods:

https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/10.1098/rspb.2019.1649

Tully Monster being some kind of crazy mollusk seems more plausible than its being a chordate at this point, but its affinity is still very much an open question.
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Chalk another one up in the 'not a vertebrate' column, but possibly still in the chordate column. The authors argue pretty strongly against the v-shaped myomeres, brain, and gill morphology of vertebrates, but suggest it isn't impossible that Tullimonstrum might have been allied to cephalochordates or vetulicolians, or a late member of the chordate stem-group.

With an illustration by Takahiro Sakono:


Paper (paywall, but pm me for a pdf): https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.1111/pala.12646
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I love how the title changes every time a new paper comes out lol.
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The real question we should be asking is whether the Lambton Worm was a chordate.

Halichoeres

Quote from: Faelrin on May 02, 2023, 04:54:17 AMI love how the title changes every time a new paper comes out lol.

Wouldn't be necessary if the Tully Monster would just pick a phylum already!

Quote from: EmperorDinobot on May 02, 2023, 05:50:45 PMThe real question we should be asking is whether the Lambton Worm was a chordate.


I had to look that up and I'm mad about it.
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