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HAOLONGGOOD - 2025 Hopes and Dreams

Started by Concavenator, November 20, 2024, 05:10:52 PM

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Concavenator

Quote from: thomasw100 on March 21, 2025, 04:23:04 PMIf the silhouette is indeed an indication of the species that will be made, it seems not to be Europasaurus. Europasaurus is a relative of Brachiosaurus and has the characteristic "helmet" on the head as well. It is known from well preserved fossil material including a lot of skull material.

There have been suggestions that the smaller sauropod in this teaser image could be Euhelopus. But very hard to guess I would say.

You're right about that, but I wouldn't take that teaser too literally when it comes to species depicted as, for instance, in another teaser from I think it was 2 years ago there was a Velociraptor and a Pteranodon that clearly didn't end up being released.

Plus, Euhelopus strikes me as a more obscure choice than Europasaurus. And there were plans for a Battat Europasaurus, and considering how many species HLG has tackled that Battat also did back in the day, I'd say a Europasaurus is likely.

In addition, I think Europasaurus would be quite a smart release from HLG. I can even picture people not being initially interested in the genus getting a HLG figure of it because of how interesting comparisons of it against the big HLG sauropods like Brachiosaurus or Argentinosaurus can be!


thomasw100

Quote from: Concavenator on March 21, 2025, 06:21:49 PMYou're right about that, but I wouldn't take that teaser too literally when it comes to species depicted as, for instance, in another teaser from I think it was 2 years ago there was a Velociraptor and a Pteranodon that clearly didn't end up being released.

Plus, Euhelopus strikes me as a more obscure choice than Europasaurus. And there were plans for a Battat Europasaurus, and considering how many species HLG has tackled that Battat also did back in the day, I'd say a Europasaurus is likely.

In addition, I think Europasaurus would be quite a smart release from HLG. I can even picture people not being initially interested in the genus getting a HLG figure of it because of how interesting comparisons of it against the big HLG sauropods like Brachiosaurus or Argentinosaurus can be!


I would definitely welcome an Europasaurus holgeri from Haolonggood, but we need to take into consideration that it is a fairly small species. The Eofauna sauropod book lists 6 meters and this is length through the centra. It would be a rather small figure, but certainly not impossible for Haolonggood to make.

Halichoeres

I'm a little concerned that branching out into extant animals means they'll have fewer resources to develop prehistoric figures.
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Quote from: Halichoeres on March 22, 2025, 04:23:21 PMI'm a little concerned that branching out into extant animals means they'll have fewer resources to develop prehistoric figures.
That's a very justifiable concern. Unless they've done so well financially, over the past couple of years, that they can afford to take on new staff and branch out into the extant field. I suspect that its likely the former combined with the lure of a potential new market.

Halichoeres

Quote from: SidB on March 22, 2025, 05:51:21 PM
Quote from: Halichoeres on March 22, 2025, 04:23:21 PMI'm a little concerned that branching out into extant animals means they'll have fewer resources to develop prehistoric figures.
That's a very justifiable concern. Unless they've done so well financially, over the past couple of years, that they can afford to take on new staff and branch out into the extant field. I suspect that its likely the former combined with the lure of a potential new market.

And if the teaser is anything to go by, it's just the same animals everyone else makes!
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thomasw100

#165
The field of extant animal figures is the stronghold of Schleich, Collecta, Safari, Papo etc. They are produced in large quantities and sold through a dense network of distributors, including basic retail stores. I think it will be hard for Haolonggood to get a decent market share in this segment. I think it would have been a better business strategy to keep going with their core business for a while and then maybe slowly expand into related areas like extinct mammal megafauna and maybe Permian reptiles (though the 1:35 scale would be a issue for the latter).

Sim

I too don't like that Haolonggood appears to be producing the same extant animals everyone else makes.  I wonder if they will still be in 1:35 scale, as it would make most of the species smaller than Haolonggood likes for their prehistoric animals.  If they make the modern animals larger than 1:35 scale, there are a few species I'd like, the gharial most of all.  I hope Haolonggood produces something new soon.  They caved on Tyrannosaurus and made a new one, and people aren't happy with it, while there are plenty of good Tyrannosaurus figures already.  I miss the Haolonggood that produces things that are fairly unique.

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#167
I'm personally super excited to see what comes of their extant animals line. I think what draws me to it so much is the seeming promise that they'll all be to scale with one another.
I have a big collection of extant animal models from all the usual figure companies, and while most seem to stick to relative scale, (giraffe > tiger > wombat) they're never actually true to scale with one another.

I'm usually not too fussed with scale when it comes to dinosaur models, but the idea of an accurate and stylistically consistent line of modern animals is super intriguing to me. If nothing else, just for the educational reference.

I do agree, however, that the market for models like these is probably impenetrable at this point for the likes of Haolonggood.

Halichoeres

PNSO issued some extant animals several years ago, and that doesn't seem to have been especially profitable for them, given that they didn't continue. But maybe there is a market for ones that are in true scale. Of course, I'm going to view it through the comparatively narrow lens of my own interests--namely, a greater variety of prehistoric animals. As T @thomasw100 suggests, some Paleozoic animals would be very welcome, but that looks less likely if they're making lions and elephants.
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#169
as someone who wants some extant animals in there collection, I think the main issue is scale. That is if the company even cares about scale (which there's proof to show they don't always). But most animals are just smaller then dinosaurs so making them in 1/35 scale is probably harder. I feel like that's why we always see the big African animals made as figures, giraffes, elephants, rhinos, etc. with that being said I'm still looking forward to what they cook, I hope they take my idea and make albinos for a second color version

Turkeysaurus

Stellasaurus by Haolonggood  :*D  Something at kosmoceratops size and cool colors this time please.

Sim

I doubt Haolonggood wants to compete with PNSO on something obscure like that.  They even cancelled their Acrocanthosaurus after PNSO revealed theirs.

Turkeysaurus

Quote from: Sim on March 23, 2025, 07:37:05 PMI doubt Haolonggood wants to compete with PNSO on something obscure like that.  They even cancelled their Acrocanthosaurus after PNSO revealed theirs.

All they had to do better choice of colors. They would win just by that, right scale and lower price imo. I don't mean now btw in future. They just had their styracosaurus.


Sim

I remember there were quite a lot of requests for Haolonggood to remake Dacentrurus when Miragaia was thought to be the same species.  I didn't have an interest in that at the time.  Now that it's been claimed the two are separate species again, I would like Haolonggood to remake Dacentrurus basing it on Miragaia, as the two are at least very close relatives.

Rayeknor

Regarding warping, does anyone have any info if the argentinosaurus has metal rods or so in its feet? Even with rigid plastic, at ~5kg this figure will 100% warp overtime without internal support or something under its gut.

thebermuda303

Quote from: Rayeknor on March 30, 2025, 12:10:43 AMRegarding warping, does anyone have any info if the argentinosaurus has metal rods or so in its feet? Even with rigid plastic, at ~5kg this figure will 100% warp overtime without internal support or something under its gut.
Doubt it'll warp honestly, legs are very thick plus I'm pretty sure that the weight is distributed in a way that actually makes sense

thomasw100

Quote from: thebermuda303 on March 30, 2025, 09:46:19 AM
Quote from: Rayeknor on March 30, 2025, 12:10:43 AMRegarding warping, does anyone have any info if the argentinosaurus has metal rods or so in its feet? Even with rigid plastic, at ~5kg this figure will 100% warp overtime without internal support or something under its gut.
Doubt it'll warp honestly, legs are very thick plus I'm pretty sure that the weight is distributed in a way that actually makes sense

I would think it makes sense to keep these figures in a place that does not get too hot if this is possible.

Concavenator

#177
After thinking about it again, I'd be interested in seeing a HLG Diplodocus after all (preferably good old D. carnegii). I have Eofauna's, which is probably my collection's favorite figure, but at the end of the day, a HLG version would surely scale better with my figures. And it would be pretty nice on its own right too. So yeah, a HLG Diplodocus would be appreciated (but please, hopefully without exposed teeth!). Luckily, it is something I can expect. In fact, I would expect it to be their next large sauropod after the next titanosaur.

In the meantime, I'll be keeping Eofauna's Diplodocus because it still works in 1:35 scale for a 22.75 m long individual (so a smaller or a subadult individual).

As for the color schemes on a hypothetical HLG Diplodocus, I would expect 3 color variants: lasagna, green and blue variants. From what I see this pattern is generally repeated on their large sauropod figures, so I would expect the same for Diplodocus. If there is a lasagna variant Diplodocus indeed, it'll be the go-to choice for me color-wise, owing to that abstract from the 2023 SVP.

A Brontosaurus would be super welcome too. And a Turiasaurus.

Trenchcoated Rebbachisaur

Quote from: Concavenator on April 13, 2025, 04:43:00 PMIn the meantime, I'll be keeping Eofauna's Diplodocus because it still works in 1:35 scale for a 22.75 m long individual (so a smaller or a subadult individual).


"Congratulations, Eofauna Diplodocus. Per community decree, your species is now Kaatedocus Leinkupal Galeamopus hayi."

Who is naming the other Diplodocines. Can I have some of what they're having.

Turkeysaurus

Quote from: Trenchcoated Rebbachisaur on April 13, 2025, 11:49:59 PM
Quote from: Concavenator on April 13, 2025, 04:43:00 PMIn the meantime, I'll be keeping Eofauna's Diplodocus because it still works in 1:35 scale for a 22.75 m long individual (so a smaller or a subadult individual).


"Congratulations, Eofauna Diplodocus. Per community decree, your species is now Kaatedocus Leinkupal Galeamopus hayi."

Who is naming the other Diplodocines. Can I have some of what they're having.





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