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PNSO New for 2025

Started by Renecito, March 01, 2025, 08:44:28 AM

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thomasw100

Quote from: Joel1905 on April 24, 2025, 04:24:53 AM
Quote from: Chasmosaurus on April 23, 2025, 07:09:44 PM
Quote from: Joel1905 on April 23, 2025, 05:54:29 PM• Figures that have a combination of more than one of those faults (Ankylosaurus, Parasaurolophus, Carnotaurus)

Oh. I didn't know their parasaurolophus and Ankylosaurus had such flaws. What are they exactly?

The Parasaurolophus is too big and its neck and forelimbs are too skinny.

The Ankylosaurus is too big, it doesn't have PNSO's modern texturing and its tail is inaccurate as we know now that it couldn't bend like that.


Ankylosaurus is large but within the plausible size range considering the range of ratios between largest individual and average individual for a number of extant and extinct animals from various groups. Eofauna Ankylosaurus is actually about the same size as PNSO Ankylosaurus.


Joel1905

Quote from: thomasw100 on April 24, 2025, 07:44:50 AM
Quote from: Joel1905 on April 24, 2025, 04:24:53 AM
Quote from: Chasmosaurus on April 23, 2025, 07:09:44 PM
Quote from: Joel1905 on April 23, 2025, 05:54:29 PM• Figures that have a combination of more than one of those faults (Ankylosaurus, Parasaurolophus, Carnotaurus)

Oh. I didn't know their parasaurolophus and Ankylosaurus had such flaws. What are they exactly?

The Parasaurolophus is too big and its neck and forelimbs are too skinny.

The Ankylosaurus is too big, it doesn't have PNSO's modern texturing and its tail is inaccurate as we know now that it couldn't bend like that.


Ankylosaurus is large but within the plausible size range considering the range of ratios between largest individual and average individual for a number of extant and extinct animals from various groups. Eofauna Ankylosaurus is actually about the same size as PNSO Ankylosaurus.

Perhaps it is within the upper size limits, but the texturing and tail are still in need of upgrades/correction.

SRF

PNSO's Ankylosaurus is still one of the best in the market. I really see no reason for PNSO to redo that one. Same applies to most of their Hadrosaurs.
But today, I'm just being father

Joel1905

Quote from: SRF on April 24, 2025, 05:27:46 PMPNSO's Ankylosaurus is still one of the best in the market. I really see no reason for PNSO to redo that one. Same applies to most of their Hadrosaurs.

I've explained the reasons. The tail is now inaccurate and it's made with their older, cruder texturing and detailing. Compare it to their Zuul from 2023 and the difference is clear.

Also a lot of their older hadrosaurs are also outdated and made with cruder detailing. The Corythosaurus & Lambeosaurus for example, firstly they're far too big, and as stated before, their necks & forelimbs are far too skinny, as well as their anatomy being off. A 2025 PNSO Corythosaurus would be drastically different, and much improved in comparison to Caroline.

SRF

Quote from: Joel1905 on April 24, 2025, 05:53:01 PM
Quote from: SRF on April 24, 2025, 05:27:46 PMPNSO's Ankylosaurus is still one of the best in the market. I really see no reason for PNSO to redo that one. Same applies to most of their Hadrosaurs.

I've explained the reasons. The tail is now inaccurate and it's made with their older, cruder texturing and detailing. Compare it to their Zuul from 2023 and the difference is clear.

Also a lot of their older hadrosaurs are also outdated and made with cruder detailing. The Corythosaurus & Lambeosaurus for example, firstly they're far too big, and as stated before, their necks & forelimbs are far too skinny, as well as their anatomy being off. A 2025 PNSO Corythosaurus would be drastically different, and much improved in comparison to Caroline.

I don't have the Zuul myself but their Ankylosaurus is still a great model if you ask me. The skin texturing isn't that crude either, also it wouldn't make sense to give an Ankylosaurus the same fine skin textures as their latest Tyrannosaurs. Just looking at review videos, the difference in texturing between Sede and the Zuul is much smaller than between Wilson and Cameron for instance. And if you really want a new Ankylosaurus figure, there's always the new Eofauna one.

I don't think the Lambeosaurus is too big either, but their Corythosaurus is. I don't like that the Lambeosaurus, Corythosaurus and Parasaurolophus aren't in scale with one another, but that doesn't mean I feel PNSO really has to "correct" that. Parasaurolophus is the only one of the three that's getting made quite often in figure form. I don't expect PNSO to release new versions of Lambeosaurus and Corythosaurus as long as their current models of these taxons are the best the market has to offer.

Now if they decide to release models of Hypacrosaurus, Magnapaulia and Charonasaurus, I'm all for it.
But today, I'm just being father

Gwangi

I have both the Ankylosaurus and Zuul and I see no appreciable difference between them that would warrant a new Ankylosaurus in my eyes. As I said before, I'm not interested in replacing a figure every five years. If they did make a new Ankylosaurus now then you might as well skip it and wait until 2030 for the next one. This style of collecting is borderline masochistic.  :*D   

Trenchcoated Rebbachisaur

I do not have the PNSO Anky, and am gonna get the Eofauna instead. Not sure I would replace it if I had the former, and if PNSO released a new Anky it would probably be so expensive that I'd go for the Eofauna anyway :*D Would probably display them together if I had both, tho, with the Eofauna conveniently covering the innaccurate tail  8)

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Quote from: Gwangi on April 24, 2025, 07:46:20 PMI have both the Ankylosaurus and Zuul and I see no appreciable difference between them that would warrant a new Ankylosaurus in my eyes. As I said before, I'm not interested in replacing a figure every five years. If they did make a new Ankylosaurus now then you might as well skip it and wait until 2030 for the next one. This style of collecting is borderline masochistic.  :*D 

I agree. I am pretty new to collecting and I don't really want the ankylosaurus. But to expect PNSO to make a new one so soon seems crazy. No way they could sustain keeping up with the latest paper for each figure while also releasing new figures. My take is let companies make what they want. The more expectations we put on a company for what specific figures they should be making the less fun this hobby becomes.

As long as the figures are of good quality and try to be the most scientifically accurate as possible at release I say great.


GnastyGnorc

Quote from: Joel1905 on April 24, 2025, 05:53:01 PM
Quote from: SRF on April 24, 2025, 05:27:46 PMPNSO's Ankylosaurus is still one of the best in the market. I really see no reason for PNSO to redo that one. Same applies to most of their Hadrosaurs.

I've explained the reasons. The tail is now inaccurate and it's made with their older, cruder texturing and detailing. Compare it to their Zuul from 2023 and the difference is clear.

Also a lot of their older hadrosaurs are also outdated and made with cruder detailing. The Corythosaurus & Lambeosaurus for example, firstly they're far too big, and as stated before, their necks & forelimbs are far too skinny, as well as their anatomy being off. A 2025 PNSO Corythosaurus would be drastically different, and much improved in comparison to Caroline.

The lambeosaurus is within acceptable range of 1:35 and it has a pretty wide range of size estimations.

thomasw100

Paleofiguras posted a nice comparison picture of the most recent PNSO ceratopsians:


thomasw100

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Sim

I think the point about some figures being the best on the market for a particular genus, and consequently it being unlikely their producer will replace them, is relevant.  PNSO's Ankylosaurus is one of their best-selling figures and I wouldn't call its detail "crude", just a different style.  I also think PNSO's figures with more conspicuous scales are fine in that regard, it's just another style.  We don't say crocodilians have "crude" integument after all.
As far as I'm aware there hasn't been a change in the undrestanding of the curvature of Ankylosaurus's tail.  I don't think the figure's tail is inaccurate, but if you do it would have always been, it's not a new thing.

PNSO's earlier hadrosaurids have detail in the current style.  I don't see anything "crude" about them.  I also don't think PNSO feels there's a problem with the size of any of their figures, if they did they wouldn't have made them in their size to begin with.  The only reason I could see PNSO replacing these figures is because of stability problems.  Their Parasaurolophus doesn't have that and I can't imagine PNSO replacing it with the available knowledge about its species.

The current PNSO Triceratops and PNSO Torosaurus I think there's no way PNSO will replace for the forseeable future.  I see no reason why they would.  I think its a bit crazy to think PNSO might.

Quote from: Joel1905 on April 23, 2025, 05:54:29 PMThe figures that are actually in need of redoing are the ones that have:

• Less finer textures and details (Pachyrhinosaurus, Sauropelta)

• Their earlier, less anatomically correct and/or out of scale figures (Corythosaurus)

• Animals that have had big changes to their reconstructions thanks to new studies (Dunkleosteus)

• The lipless theropods (Tyrannosaurus, Giganotosaurus, Acrocanthosaurus, Megalosaurus)

• Figures that have a combination of more than one of those faults (Ankylosaurus, Parasaurolophus, Carnotaurus)
I think expceting PNSO to remake some of these is at odds with what's actually happening: PNSO is reluctant to remake species they've already made in standard-size.  Plus I don't think there's enough demand for these, e.g. Sauropelta and Megalosaurus which have top-quality versions by Safari (I think the PNSO Megalosaurus is top-quality too, but the Safari has lips which is the only reason for wanting PNSO to remake it), and Ankylosaurus which has the new Eofauna version.

Flaffy

Quote from: thomasw100 on April 24, 2025, 08:19:38 PMPaleofiguras posted a nice comparison picture of the most recent PNSO ceratopsians:



Didn't realise how large Lokiceratops was.


Carnoking

Quote from: thomasw100 on April 24, 2025, 08:19:38 PMPaleofiguras posted a nice comparison picture of the most recent PNSO ceratopsians:



This lineup actually looks pretty colorful!

oscars_dinos

Quote from: Carnoking on April 24, 2025, 11:34:52 PM
Quote from: thomasw100 on April 24, 2025, 08:19:38 PMPaleofiguras posted a nice comparison picture of the most recent PNSO ceratopsians:



This lineup actually looks pretty colorful!
you cant say this... it goes against the anti pnso/pnso only does brown narrative

Gwangi

Quote from: oscars_dinos on April 24, 2025, 11:59:29 PM
Quote from: Carnoking on April 24, 2025, 11:34:52 PM
Quote from: thomasw100 on April 24, 2025, 08:19:38 PMPaleofiguras posted a nice comparison picture of the most recent PNSO ceratopsians:


This lineup actually looks pretty colorful!
you cant say this... it goes against the anti pnso/pnso only does brown narrative

Now if they would only diversify the patterns. I'm seeing stripes, vertical stripes, stripes, and stripes.

That comparison image is cool but I don't know that I needed to see it four times.  :P

SidB

Quote from: Gwangi on April 24, 2025, 07:46:20 PMI have both the Ankylosaurus and Zuul and I see no appreciable difference between them that would warrant a new Ankylosaurus in my eyes. As I said before, I'm not interested in replacing a figure every five years. If they did make a new Ankylosaurus now then you might as well skip it and wait until 2030 for the next one. This style of collecting is borderline masochistic.  :*D   
It's an uncomfortable journey when one is perpetually dissatisfied along the way. So much more enjoyable to give individuals and companies some leeway, recognizing their human fallibility, the current limits of knowledge when figures were fabricated and financial constraints past and  present.

Gwangi

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Trenchcoated Rebbachisaur

Quote from: Gwangi on April 25, 2025, 01:17:35 AM
Quote from: oscars_dinos on April 24, 2025, 11:59:29 PM
Quote from: Carnoking on April 24, 2025, 11:34:52 PM
Quote from: thomasw100 on April 24, 2025, 08:19:38 PMPaleofiguras posted a nice comparison picture of the most recent PNSO ceratopsians:


This lineup actually looks pretty colorful!
you cant say this... it goes against the anti pnso/pnso only does brown narrative

Now if they would only diversify the patterns. I'm seeing stripes, vertical stripes, stripes, and stripes.

That comparison image is cool but I don't know that I needed to see it four times.  :P
The "Facebook container prevents FB pictures from loading" interaction meant I only had to see it once! xP

Issa good picture tho. Kudos to the chef.

Faelrin

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