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Everything Dinosaur: Evolution

Started by GojiraGuy1954, May 28, 2025, 05:13:13 PM

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Over9K

Quote from: DinoToyForum on June 04, 2025, 12:35:09 AMMaybe they just meant 'unearth', as in to reveal, the Evolution line.

Interestingly, "Everything Dinosaur" is a registered trademark, but going by the markings, neither "Everything Dinosaur: Evolution" nor "Evolution" are registered trademarks at this time.



Trenchcoated Rebbachisaur

Oof, I sure hope they manage to produce within a similar price range as Eofauna does, or if not, at least a range that compares to HLG/PNSO. I really want to support them, but I might have to delay the purchase for god knows how long, or even give up entirely, depending on the pricepoint. And the fact that the model quality seems way more like Showanna Scotty than EoFauna Sue so far isn't helping me grease my wheels much either, but I guess I shouldn't judge too harshly before the finished products are ready. No hate intended, of course, a new business got to learn and a workers got to eat, I get it

Turkeysaurus

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Quote from: Paleodude on June 04, 2025, 01:02:43 AMI like Everything Dinosaur and would support them but a new Tyrannosaurus toy is always a hard sell in this market. Especially since they've gone with 1:33 instead of 1:35 for some reason despite it mostly being the industry standard with these types of figures? It looks nice, not quite my speed but I hope it does well so we can see the other members of Hell Creek or preferably something we don't have hundreds of toys of already.

A few reasons i can think of:

1. Most figures are actually between somewhere in 1:30 to 1:40 scale nowadays even though standard is 1:35 . Figure itself might not be exactly 1:33.  Even if they make exactly 1:33 and take same reference length with other brands, it would make only 2 cm length difference compared to 1:35 model.

2. It might help with smaller taxa. Most PNSO Ceratopsians are 1:30 scale.

3. A slightly a bigger models get more attention next to smaller ones. Kind of similar to how music business pushed for louder production  which cause "Loudness War"


suspsy

A 1:33 scale T. rex could be interpreted as one of those rare 12 tonners like "Cope" and "Goliath."
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Turkeysaurus


John

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Quote from: Sim on June 03, 2025, 10:57:20 PM
Quote from: Over9K on June 03, 2025, 10:09:17 PMMy $20 says Morrison, being THE Iconic Sauropod Formation, will be Allo, Stego, Brachio, Diplo.
If the Hell Creek set will have Anzu instead of Ankylosaurus, I think it's possible a Morrison set will have Camptosaurus or a diplodocid that isn't Diplodocus.

Quote from: John on June 03, 2025, 10:32:28 PMI think this would be a good opportunity for them to take on famous British dinosaurs like Iguanodon and Scelidosaurus as well as other prehistoric animals like Plesiosaurus.
I just looked up the formation Scelidosaurus is from and I didn't know Plesiosaurus is from there too.  I would love to have a Scelidosaurus figure, and one of Temnodontosaurus which is from this formaton too.
I'm satisfied with my CollectA Iguanodon, but I'm interested in having other animals from the Wessex Formation, specifically Polacanthus, Neovenator and Eotyrannus.

I hope that as this series progresses, Everything Dinosaur will produce species that lack an accurate figure.
It looks to me like there will be plenty of the more rare things alongside the most popular if the Tyrannosaurus rex being joined by Anzu wyliei is anything to go by.
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Flaffy

There was lots of mentions of printing in the promo vid. Hope these aren't fragile resin prints...

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Turkeysaurus

Quote from: Flaffy on June 04, 2025, 09:05:43 AMThere was lots of mentions of printing in the promo vid. Hope these aren't fragile resin prints...

Quote from: Samrukia on June 03, 2025, 07:40:44 PMaccording to the comments on ED FB page from ED themselves
- each series of figures (4 per set) will represent a specific geological formation
- first formation is Hell Creek, but one of the possible options is Erlian formation, which is associated with Gigantoraptor
- a sauropod figure is possible in future, but not in Hell Creek series
- figures are made from UPVC, display bases are included
- 2 of the first 4 figures are Theropods

Spinokaprogorgon

This has the potential to be the best dinosaur toy brand ever
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SidB

I'm really looking forward to some of the smaller figures (for instance, Anzu) in 1/33 scale. Sure hope that there are more of these types at that scale.

Shane

Quote from: Turkeysaurus on June 04, 2025, 10:13:10 AM
Quote from: Flaffy on June 04, 2025, 09:05:43 AMThere was lots of mentions of printing in the promo vid. Hope these aren't fragile resin prints...

Quote from: Samrukia on June 03, 2025, 07:40:44 PMaccording to the comments on ED FB page from ED themselves
- each series of figures (4 per set) will represent a specific geological formation
- first formation is Hell Creek, but one of the possible options is Erlian formation, which is associated with Gigantoraptor
- a sauropod figure is possible in future, but not in Hell Creek series
- figures are made from UPVC, display bases are included
- 2 of the first 4 figures are Theropods

Just to touch upon this, UPVC is actually a type of resin. It stands for unplasticized PVC.

Plasticizer is what gives PVC its flexible qualities, without plasticizer it's quite rigid.

Carnoking

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An entire line of figures in the style of Bob Nicholls' paleo art? Well id say they've got my attention.

Elengassen

I'm finding it a bit hard to get excited about this news, probably because most of the species announced so far have multiple good figures already (although I am curious to see how the Anzu turns out). I am intrigued by the mention of other formations such as Chinle though, and I do look forward to seeing what they release after this first wave.
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suspsy

Apparently the T. rex will be available in 90 days, with pre-ordering coming "soon." Hopefully PNSO will reveal their new version soon too and that way we'll have a chance to compare looks and prices.
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Darko2300

Quote from: suspsy on June 04, 2025, 02:48:15 PMApparently the T. rex will be available in 90 days, with pre-ordering coming "soon." Hopefully PNSO will reveal their new version soon too and that way we'll have a chance to compare looks and prices.

Wait. Is the PNSO Rex more than just speculation?

suspsy

Quote from: Darko2300 on June 04, 2025, 03:01:14 PM
Quote from: suspsy on June 04, 2025, 02:48:15 PMApparently the T. rex will be available in 90 days, with pre-ordering coming "soon." Hopefully PNSO will reveal their new version soon too and that way we'll have a chance to compare looks and prices.

Wait. Is the PNSO Rex more than just speculation?

Well, that's another issue right there. We have the images of a digital model of one, but I believe that's it. It is highly unlikely that PNSO would go to the trouble of creating such a model if they did not intend to eventually create a toy based on it. Nevertheless, we have no idea what's coming from them next.

In the end, those who want the Evolution model will have to jump on the opportunity when it arrives, as it is a limited run, after all.
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GojiraGuy1954

Quote from: PumperKrickel on June 03, 2025, 10:49:27 PM
Quote from: Trenchcoated Rebbachisaur on June 03, 2025, 10:25:17 PMWhy would it mean that?
I guess I could see them scale it back a bit, but outright killing it; surely not...?

They're now a direct competitor to a lot of the brands they're stocking. It's a conflict of interest, isn't it?
And their business is already founded on stocking dozens of different brands that all conflict with each other. Completely ending their online store for one new figure line would be financial suicide, it's not happening
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Concavenator

I have to say I much prefer Boundless World's approach for their first figures' choices. Both Boundless World and Everything Dinosaur knows that Tyrannosaurus figures sell well (everyone does). But Boundless World chose Tarbosaurus and Shantungosaurus, two genera that lack "definitive" figures, whereas Everything Dinosaur starts off with Tyrannosaurus. IMO, at this point, a new Tyrannosaurus figure has extremely little (or nothing) to add to the market. Ditto for Triceratops and Edmontosaurus.

If it's the Hell Creek Formation we're talking about, rather than yet another T. rex, Triceratops and Edmontosaurus, they could've chosen some overlooked taxa like Thescelosaurus, Denversaurus, or, why not, a Pachycephalosaurus (sure, there are a few good ones already, but there's not a really good one in ~ 1:35 scale).

By doing that, I'm sure those figures would appeal to close to the 100 % of the public interested in those taxa, considering the lack of options for them. But by choosing dinosaurs that are so well-represented in figure form, the issue of competence inevitably comes into scene.

Credit where credit is due, though, Anzu is a cool choice, and the only figure from the lineup that has my curiosity. I have Safari's, which is a beauty, but the figure actually is in 1:25 scale, I'm using it as a hypothetical giant 1:30-35 individual. So it's possible I'll replace Safari's version with ED's, as it seems the latter will be smaller and so a better fit to my collection scale-wise.

Not only is the Anzu an interesting choice by itself, but as previously mentioned, it also gives me hope they'll tackle more overlooked taxa from other famous formations like the Morrison. I think a Morrison Formation series could be interesting if it ommitted Allosaurus, Stegosaurus, Diplodocus and Brachiosaurus.

In any case, I wish ED the best of luck with this new project.

Quote from: Sim on June 03, 2025, 09:10:30 PMGigantoraptor is an interesting choice, but without the top of its head known I'm not keen on having a figure of it. 

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Speaking of Gigantoraptor, I find the species from its formation are lacking in a known appearance with the exception of Bactrosaurus.  So it doesn't seem like a good choice for this line...

I agree.

thomasw100

Quote from: Shane on June 04, 2025, 01:23:38 PMJust to touch upon this, UPVC is actually a type of resin. It stands for unplasticized PVC.

Plasticizer is what gives PVC its flexible qualities, without plasticizer it's quite rigid.


This is actually very important information.

This probably means that the figures would also be more brittle and therefore more prone to breaking.

Which would take away one of the main real advantage of PVC figures, i.e. they do not easily break when toppling over or even falling from the shelf.

Sim

Thanks for the info on upvc Shane, I didn't know those things about it.  Since the figures will be made of resin, I'm no longer considering having figures from this line.  Too bad, because it has great qualities!

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