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Everything Dinosaur: Evolution

Started by GojiraGuy1954, May 28, 2025, 05:13:13 PM

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GnastyGnorc

I think people criticizing Everything Dinosaur for focusing too much on the more well tread genera are not seeing the bigger idea with their release strategy.

They are coming out and promising we will be making these figures all in the same scale from the same formation. In waves. No other company has really done this.

This gives collectors who really want to create displays focused on scale and formation (like me) confidence in what is coming.

And from what I have seen they have announced a pretty nice even split in genera with not a lot of figures vs ones that are more common.

I think they are hoping that people buy into the wave instead of individual figures. And if the quality is good, (And the Trex does look good) I will probably do that.

And like has been touted before popular species sell. I don't have a t rex yet because I haven't really liked the look of any available yet. But I will probably get this one not just because i think it looks great but because I know it will be followed by other dinosaurs in the same style, scale and formation.

I also don't have a triceratops or an anzu. The only one I may pass on is the edmontosaurus because I have the pnso and that figure is practically perfect imo (but we will have to see)

And any of the other formations are also fantastic but I do hope for cedar mountain.


DinoToyForum

Quote from: DavidJamesArmsby on June 11, 2025, 10:33:54 PM
Quote from: Flaffy on June 11, 2025, 10:19:16 PMI proposed Dorset's Kimmeridge Clay formation. The UK is famous for it's sea reptiles as well afterall!
That's a great idea. I would absolutely love a wave of Dorset marine reptiles. I honestly can't think of a formation I'd prefer them to tackle over the Jurassic Coast now that you bring it up.
I totally understand why they want to start off with sure-fire hits like T. Rex before doing something as niche as Ichthyosaurs, though.


A little further along the Jurassic Coast you have the Charmouth Mudstone Formation, famous for Mary Anning's discoveries. So, a potential quartet could be Plesiosaurus, Ichthyosaurus, Dimorphodon, and Scelidosaurus (of which Mary found three).



ceratopsian

My preference is for Cedar Mountain, followed by Wessex, then Hateg.  I'm less keen on the Morrison purely because I think we're well supplied with what they suggest other than the Camptosaurus (which I would actually really like).  I fully recognise that in commercial terms ED needs some "mainline" dinosaurs with high recognition value but I'd prefer formations with more potential for adding in animals where models/toys are thinner on the ground. 

And I very much like DinoToyForum's suggestion!  The Mary Anning angle would add a good selling point I'd imagine.

Sim

Quote from: DinoToyForum on June 12, 2025, 06:13:41 PMA little further along the Jurassic Coast you have the Charmouth Mudstone Formation, famous for Mary Anning's discoveries. So, a potential quartet could be Plesiosaurus, Ichthyosaurus, Dimorphodon, and Scelidosaurus (of which Mary found three).
I think Dimorphodon would be too small to work..  Also, from this formation I would like Temnodontosaurus..

DinoToyForum

Quote from: Sim on June 13, 2025, 12:48:47 AM
Quote from: DinoToyForum on June 12, 2025, 06:13:41 PMA little further along the Jurassic Coast you have the Charmouth Mudstone Formation, famous for Mary Anning's discoveries. So, a potential quartet could be Plesiosaurus, Ichthyosaurus, Dimorphodon, and Scelidosaurus (of which Mary found three).
I think Dimorphodon would be too small to work..  Also, from this formation I would like Temnodontosaurus..

Yeah, a 1:33 scale Dimorphodon figure would have a wingspan of about 4.5 cm, which would be a challenge.



SidB

Quote from: DinoToyForum on June 13, 2025, 10:35:51 AM
Quote from: Sim on June 13, 2025, 12:48:47 AM
Quote from: DinoToyForum on June 12, 2025, 06:13:41 PMA little further along the Jurassic Coast you have the Charmouth Mudstone Formation, famous for Mary Anning's discoveries. So, a potential quartet could be Plesiosaurus, Ichthyosaurus, Dimorphodon, and Scelidosaurus (of which Mary found three).
I think Dimorphodon would be too small to work..  Also, from this formation I would like Temnodontosaurus..

Yeah, a 1:33 scale Dimorphodon figure would have a wingspan of about 4.5 cm, which would be a challenge.
It really would be something special, though not new (consider CollectA mini dioramas and the early Carnegie Safari Deinonychus trio)) to have a mini Dimorhodon flock as a unit).

Concavenator

Quote from: GnastyGnorc on June 12, 2025, 06:09:11 PMI think people criticizing Everything Dinosaur for focusing too much on the more well tread genera are not seeing the bigger idea with their release strategy.

They are coming out and promising we will be making these figures all in the same scale from the same formation. In waves. No other company has really done this.

I don't get why your first point is in any way related to your second one. They can still launch figures in waves, with the figures being in scale with each other and representing species from the same formation. With all the species' choices being underrepresented species that deserve good figure attention (which seemingly they intend on releasing, but I think it'd be preferable if all their choices were like that).

For instance, I guess most people will be more excited for the Anzu than for the Tyrannosaurus, and for the Camptosaurus than for the Stegosaurus. And a new Anzu (regardless of Safari's being great) and Camptosaurus definitely have more to add to the market than an umpteenth Tyrannosaurus and Stegosaurus.

So why not skip the big names like Tyrannosaurus, Stegosaurus, etc and go straight to the point, to the really overlooked and needed species? At this point, chances are pretty high most collectors will have a figure (or several) of said famous genera they're happy with (probably making them less prone to spend additional money and space on those taxa they already have represented in their collections). The same can't be true for Camptosaurus, Falcarius, etc.

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suspsy

I think it made perfect sense for ED to release Tyrannosaurus rex right out of the gate and I've seen far more praise from the collecting community than complaining. The latter is quite unnecessary.
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Flaffy

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Flaffy

I wish the scalation on the head was more prominent. The sculpt detail on the head feels oddly soft compared to the intricate folds and wrinkles of the body.

PNSO Cameron undoubtledly has the more refined sculpting and detail. So lets see if the EDE rex's price will be more wallet friendly to make it competetive in the saturated rex market.

Gwangi

It's a fine Tyrannosaurus but I'm not wowed by it. I think this will be a case where it'll be the obscure animals that pique my interest.

Joliezac

Looks great! I think my favorite thing about this rex is the color scheme. I'll have price/material determine if I buy it or not. I like to do outdoor photography, and Nanmu figures are about as fragile as I like to go. I'm also still waiting for Rebor's Kiss repaint to release.

GojiraGuy1954

Quote from: ceratopsian on June 12, 2025, 07:29:42 PMMy preference is for Cedar Mountain, followed by Wessex, then Hateg.  I'm less keen on the Morrison purely because I think we're well supplied with what they suggest other than the Camptosaurus (which I would actually really like).  I fully recognise that in commercial terms ED needs some "mainline" dinosaurs with high recognition value but I'd prefer formations with more potential for adding in animals where models/toys are thinner on the ground. 

And I very much like DinoToyForum's suggestion!  The Mary Anning angle would add a good selling point I'd imagine.
Hateg is definitely my #1 pick. I need a good Hatzegopteryx, Balaur, and Zalmoxes
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Halichoeres

Quote from: Concavenator on June 14, 2025, 04:56:55 PM
Quote from: GnastyGnorc on June 12, 2025, 06:09:11 PMI think people criticizing Everything Dinosaur for focusing too much on the more well tread genera are not seeing the bigger idea with their release strategy.

They are coming out and promising we will be making these figures all in the same scale from the same formation. In waves. No other company has really done this.

I don't get why your first point is in any way related to your second one. They can still launch figures in waves, with the figures being in scale with each other and representing species from the same formation. With all the species' choices being underrepresented species that deserve good figure attention (which seemingly they intend on releasing, but I think it'd be preferable if all their choices were like that).

For instance, I guess most people will be more excited for the Anzu than for the Tyrannosaurus, and for the Camptosaurus than for the Stegosaurus. And a new Anzu (regardless of Safari's being great) and Camptosaurus definitely have more to add to the market than an umpteenth Tyrannosaurus and Stegosaurus.

So why not skip the big names like Tyrannosaurus, Stegosaurus, etc and go straight to the point, to the really overlooked and needed species? At this point, chances are pretty high most collectors will have a figure (or several) of said famous genera they're happy with (probably making them less prone to spend additional money and space on those taxa they already have represented in their collections). The same can't be true for Camptosaurus, Falcarius, etc.

I agree that Camptosaurus or Falcarius would add more to the market and make for a more interesting lineup, but there's an awful lot of people who mostly buy the handful of dinosaurs they remember from when they were kids.
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GojiraGuy1954

yeah the notion that a Falcarius will sell better than a Tyrannosaurus figure is absolutely ludicrous
Shrek 4 is an underrated masterpiece

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Bob Nicholls posted this graphic on Mastodon (https://sauropods.win/deck/@BobNicholls/114693943699872307):




Over9K

#136
 I would imagine they would have to return for more figures in some of the more prolific formations...

DavidJamesArmsby

I don't know how they plan to do formations like Hateg island. Everything except Hatzegopteryx will be super tiny in 1:33. Unless they plan to set each formation's scale accordingly depending on the general size of the fauna present. So perhaps Hateg would be 1:20 or something?

I know most people like their dino toys between 1:30-1:40, but I'd love some larger scales so we can get underrepresented little dudes.

Chasmosaurus

For small dinosaurs or pterosaurs or mamifera ... why not model them directly on a tree or any other mesozoic plant? Or even a rock formation? We could have several species in one object. This would allow us to have 1/35 scale figurines of plant species and small animals for our collections. Although I'm not sure this would appeal to everyone, given that some people don't like figurines on base, which I can understand. I think it could be a solution.

GnastyGnorc

Quote from: Chasmosaurus on June 16, 2025, 08:52:40 PMFor small dinosaurs or pterosaurs or mamifera ... why not model them directly on a tree or any other mesozoic plant? Or even a rock formation? We could have several species in one object. This would allow us to have 1/35 scale figurines of plant species and small animals for our collections. Although I'm not sure this would appeal to everyone, given that some people don't like figurines on base, which I can understand. I think it could be a solution.

I personally love this idea. But I can see it not being popular with the majority of collectors. I think once anzu is released we will have a better idea of how they plan to handle these smaller species. Even at 1:33 anzu will be pretty small.

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