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PNSO New for 2025

Started by Renecito, March 01, 2025, 08:44:28 AM

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Bergues

First PNSO model of the year with "wow" effect, like we had with their Camarasaurus or Edmontosaurus last year. Ceratopsians are great but this is the eye catcher.

Sauropod release in museum series? Looking forward to all the extra goodies.

Striking model ( always prefer open mouth as we get more details), yet with so many 1:35 scale sauropods released lately, I would have liked the same for this one even if it would probably mean price X2. I suppose we will read here in following months of acceptable 1:35 scale species we could have this figure as. Hopefully they get overwhelming feedback to give us some 1:35 scale sauropods in future.


Halichoeres

I didn't even know the Hong Kong dinosaur bone had been specifically identified as a sauropod. None of the articles around that time specified.
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Gwangi

This seems like a bold move from PNSO but I suppose it will sell well in China. It's a lovely figure but I have no interest in a model of an un-named sauropod that's known from a single bone, especially if it is in the Museum line.

Brings to mind Favorite's Tambatitanis, produced before that genus had a name and dubbed "the Tamba sauropod". There's a bit more material for Tambatitanis than this one though.

Stegotyranno420

#763
avatar_Protopatch @Protopatch I think the graph means
if it were 1:35 figure, in real life it would be so big
if it were 1:45 figure, then it would be even bigger.
Scale doesn't seem to be confirmed?
the chart with the human silhouette
measures how big the animal would be in real life, not the figure.

The bottom one shows the true size of the figure compared with a hand

Hope it helps :)



HUGE MISSED opportunity to call it "Hongkonglong" a triple rhyme!

 Though to play devils advocate, I am not sure if the tones of each syllable will rhyme exactly, and even more so if I recall it probably only rhymes in some variants of Chinese.

GnastyGnorc

Quote from: Gwangi on June 20, 2025, 05:05:37 PMThis seems like a bold move from PNSO but I suppose it will sell well in China. It's a lovely figure but I have no interest in a model of an un-named sauropod that's known from a single bone, especially if it is in the Museum line.

Brings to mind Favorite's Tambatitanis, produced before that genus had a name and dubbed "the Tamba sauropod". There's a bit more material for Tambatitanis than this one though.

I will say if they are going to a museum line figure, At least it's something fairly niche and not used to overcharge a really popular or wanted genus.

Flaffy

Quote from: Stegotyranno420 on June 20, 2025, 05:22:11 PMHUGE MISSED opportunity to call it "Hongkonglong" a triple rhyme!

PNSO is already calling it that in chinese. However, they made great emphasis in their crowdfunder campaign description as to not wanting to tread on the work of paleontologists before the genus's official description, and thus is using a placeholder of "Hongkongsaurus" only until the genus is described.

The official genus name will likely be 香港龍 or 香港巨龍 based on previous naming conventions for fossil taxa endemic to the city. (see Hongkongites hongkongensis). Of which possible romanisations are as follows;
香港龍: Xiangganglong / Hongkonglong / Hongkongsaurus
香港巨龍: Xianggangtitan / Hongkongtitan

Given the initial uncertainty of which family the bones belongs to, an ornithopod affinity would fit the first name, while a sauropod affinity would fit the latter better. My favourite would be "Hongkonglong" for the novelty of rhyming in english.


QuoteThough to play devils advocate, I am not sure if the tones of each syllable will rhyme exactly, and even more so if I recall it probably only rhymes in some variants of Chinese.

For reference, of the chinese languages I am familiar with:
Mandarin: xiāng gǎng lóng
Cantonese: hoeng1 gong2 lung4

Flaffy

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Quote from: Halichoeres on June 20, 2025, 03:56:09 PMI didn't even know the Hong Kong dinosaur bone had been specifically identified as a sauropod. None of the articles around that time specified.

Yeah the identity was still up for debate, but was narrowed down to either an ornithopod or sauropod. PNSO mentioned 30+ additional fragments that are still stuck in matrix unprepared, so maybe they had insider knowledge. The only piece that was preparred and made public is a right(?) coracoid fragment:

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Gwangi

Quote from: GnastyGnorc on June 20, 2025, 05:42:05 PM
Quote from: Gwangi on June 20, 2025, 05:05:37 PMThis seems like a bold move from PNSO but I suppose it will sell well in China. It's a lovely figure but I have no interest in a model of an un-named sauropod that's known from a single bone, especially if it is in the Museum line.

Brings to mind Favorite's Tambatitanis, produced before that genus had a name and dubbed "the Tamba sauropod". There's a bit more material for Tambatitanis than this one though.

I will say if they are going to a museum line figure, At least it's something fairly niche and not used to overcharge a really popular or wanted genus.

Yeah, that's a good point.

Stegotyranno420

avatar_Flaffy @Flaffy oh dear, I remembered Hong Kong spoke Cantonese but why I did not think its name was also Cantonese 🤦 I was under the impression it was also Mandarin for some reason. Silly me.

Well in that case no rhyming :/

But hey, atleast we got a lesson in Chinese languages today :)

Protopatch

Quote from: Stegotyranno420 on June 20, 2025, 05:22:11 PMavatar_Protopatch @Protopatch I think the graph means
if it were 1:35 figure, in real life it would be so big
if it were 1:45 figure, then it would be even bigger.
Scale doesn't seem to be confirmed?
the chart with the human silhouette
measures how big the animal would be in real life, not the figure.

The bottom one shows the true size of the figure compared with a hand

Hope it helps :)



HUGE MISSED opportunity to call it "Hongkonglong" a triple rhyme!

 Though to play devils advocate, I am not sure if the tones of each syllable will rhyme exactly, and even more so if I recall it probably only rhymes in some variants of Chinese.
Oh yeah good catch !
Many thanks for the clarifications avatar_Stegotyranno420 @Stegotyranno420 , this completely makes sense.
It's rather impressive to see such a variation in this putative animal's size estimate.

Anyway, I do hope that the availability of the figure will not be limited to China/Hong Kong area, which seems to be the case at the moment.

Turkeysaurus

#770
Quote from: Protopatch on June 20, 2025, 10:14:24 AMAt a glance, this Hongkongsaurus appeals to me in terms of color pattern and pose 8)

I am not sure to understand the reason why the 1:35 scale figure appears smaller than a 1:45 version^^ :

Quote from: Flaffy on June 19, 2025, 03:05:11 PMSize chart by @Kamitoge

We could possibly pass it off as a Nemegtosaurus but the ratio height/lenght might not perfectly match.

"#PNSO | Huigi the "Hong Kong Dinosaur". (Fan-made graphic)

©カミトゲスピノ

Note: There seems to be a mistake in the scales label (they are upside down) but the comparison with other figures seems to be correct."

google translation of paleofiguras facebook quote.

Basically it's a mistake, they should be reverse. Actual figure is 1:45.

Trenchcoated Rebbachisaur

Quote from: Turkeysaurus on June 20, 2025, 10:57:01 PM
Quote from: Protopatch on June 20, 2025, 10:14:24 AMAt a glance, this Hongkongsaurus appeals to me in terms of color pattern and pose 8)

I am not sure to understand the reason why the 1:35 scale figure appears smaller than a 1:45 version^^ :

Quote from: Flaffy on June 19, 2025, 03:05:11 PMSize chart by @Kamitoge

We could possibly pass it off as a Nemegtosaurus but the ratio height/lenght might not perfectly match.

"#PNSO | Huigi the "Hong Kong Dinosaur". (Fan-made graphic)

©カミトゲスピノ

Note: There seems to be a mistake in the scales label (they are upside down) but the comparison with other figures seems to be correct."

google translation of paleofiguras facebook quote.

Basically it's a mistake, they should be reverse. Actual figure is 1:45.
It's a Sauropod. Just wait a couple years and a downsizing paper will come out and it might just end up at 1:35 then.

Gigantospinotyrannus

#772
Quote from: DavidJamesArmsby on June 20, 2025, 08:19:57 AMJ @Joel1905 That's not the reason this figure is contentious at all.
G @GnastyGnorc I'm not sure we're aloud to discuss why this model's species choice, nickname, and even month of kickstarting are all contentious based on the rules of this forum. If you guys really want to know more, I suggest you both read up on current Hong Kong/Chinese political relations outside of this forum.

Why would the name be contentious? The fact that Hong Kong was returned to China is internationally recognised and for the Chinese is something worthy of celebration as they were able to recover a part of China that was taken by the colonial masters due to the Opium Wars. They even have annual celebrations in Hong Kong to commemorate the return. I'm guessing they did that to coincide with the celebrations. It's not even a debate whether Hongkong is part of China so I don't see how it's political, unless you think Hongkong independence is a majority view and there's some major active conflict going on (more people in Alaska want independence from the USA than HK from China btw).

Anyway I'll probably getting this, nice colour scheme and I like the neck pose. I usually collect 1:35 but apparently this can stand for a smaller sauropod so there's no problem. The fact that it's the first (I believe?) dinosaur discovered in Hongkong is pretty cool too.


thomasw100

Quote from: Gigantospinotyrannus on June 21, 2025, 01:38:49 PM
Quote from: DavidJamesArmsby on June 20, 2025, 08:19:57 AMJ @Joel1905 That's not the reason this figure is contentious at all.
G @GnastyGnorc I'm not sure we're aloud to discuss why this model's species choice, nickname, and even month of kickstarting are all contentious based on the rules of this forum. If you guys really want to know more, I suggest you both read up on current Hong Kong/Chinese political relations outside of this forum.

Why would the name be contentious? The fact that Hong Kong was returned to China is internationally recognised and for the Chinese is something worthy of celebration as they were able to recover a part of China that was taken by the colonial masters due to the Opium Wars. They even have annual celebrations in Hong Kong to commemorate the return. I'm guessing they did that to coincide with the celebrations. It's not even a debate whether Hongkong is part of China so I don't see how it's political, unless you think Hongkong independence is a majority view and there's some major active conflict going on (more people in Alaska want independence from the USA than HK from China btw).

Anyway I'll probably getting this, nice colour scheme and I like the neck pose. I usually collect 1:35 but apparently this can stand for a smaller sauropod so there's no problem. The fact that it's the first (I believe?) dinosaur discovered in Hongkong is pretty cool too.


I think you have opened Pandoras box of potentially divisive political discussions with your post.

oscars_dinos

im just waiting to see if it becomes avalible, would they reanounce it if it does? they didnt post it on their ig so

Joel1905

So, sauropods are pretty cool huh?

I'd love to see PNSO try their hand at the likes of Diplodocus, Shunosaurus & Saltasaurus.

Protopatch

Quote from: Turkeysaurus on June 20, 2025, 10:57:01 PM"#PNSO | Huigi the "Hong Kong Dinosaur". (Fan-made graphic)

©カミトゲスピノ

Note: There seems to be a mistake in the scales label (they are upside down) but the comparison with other figures seems to be correct."

google translation of paleofiguras facebook quote.

Basically it's a mistake, they should be reverse. Actual figure is 1:45.
Okay ! Thanks for this useful update avatar_Turkeysaurus @Turkeysaurus
However, had it not been for that reversal, the explanation of avatar_Stegotyranno420 @Stegotyranno420 would have held up (very) well ;)

Sim

Paleofiguras has said there was a PNSO long-necked plesiosaur planned for the museum series, but they don't know when it will be coming.  If it does come I hope it's a species with better remains than Elasmosaurus...

Joel1905

Quote from: Sim on June 21, 2025, 07:40:54 PMPaleofiguras has said there was a PNSO long-necked plesiosaur planned for the museum series, but they don't know when it will be coming.  If it does come I hope it's a species with better remains than Elasmosaurus...

If it's for the Museum Line, chances are it will be an Elasmosaurus.

The Museum Line is usually reserved for the most famous names (Tyrannosaurus, Triceratops, Spinosaurus, Stegosaurus etc)

Flaffy

Quote from: Gigantospinotyrannus on June 21, 2025, 01:38:49 PM
Quote from: DavidJamesArmsby on June 20, 2025, 08:19:57 AMJ @Joel1905 That's not the reason this figure is contentious at all.
G @GnastyGnorc I'm not sure we're aloud to discuss why this model's species choice, nickname, and even month of kickstarting are all contentious based on the rules of this forum. If you guys really want to know more, I suggest you both read up on current Hong Kong/Chinese political relations outside of this forum.

Why would the name be contentious? The fact that Hong Kong was returned to China is internationally recognised and for the Chinese is something worthy of celebration as they were able to recover a part of China that was taken by the colonial masters due to the Opium Wars. They even have annual celebrations in Hong Kong to commemorate the return. I'm guessing they did that to coincide with the celebrations. It's not even a debate whether Hongkong is part of China so I don't see how it's political, unless you think Hongkong independence is a majority view and there's some major active conflict going on (more people in Alaska want independence from the USA than HK from China btw).

Like I said:
Quote from: Flaffy on June 19, 2025, 01:30:20 PMAlso that nickname... Somehow unsurprised. Can be taken as a celebration or a statement depending on who you ask.

I can certainly attest that the situation is much more complicated and nuanced than what was described above. Many folk do not consider it something to celebrate.

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