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Jurassic World: Rebirth (July 2, 2025) 🦕

Started by Giganotosaurus, January 22, 2024, 08:12:19 PM

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Dilopho

Quote from: Giganotosaurus on June 19, 2025, 07:15:20 AM
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People have seen the movie at the premiere and at subsequent showings. They are speaking about the movie

So the list of species in Rebirth (that aren't already dead) are:

Apatosaurus
Titanosaurus
Mutadon
D Rex
5-6 foot Newts
Spinosaurus
T Rex
Velociraptor
Compies
Ankylosaurus
Aquilops
Dilophosaurus
Mosasaurus
Quetzalcoatlus
Anurognathus
Small Pteranodon
Tentacle Creature


(A tentacle of an otherwise-unseen creature is shown).
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I also heard mentions of
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a dead Dunkleosteus or other kind of fish
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which should be interesting to see.


HD-man

Quote from: Flaffy on June 14, 2025, 10:34:34 AMTBH the puppet design looks more convincing than everything we've seen for the Aquilops thus far.

On a related note, I was recently reminded of DiPiazza's similarly-patterned Aquilops (& thus, how Rebirth's Aquilops "doesn't look as cool": https://dinotoyblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=11253.msg397586#msg397586 ):


2 more things of note:

-1) "Jurassic World Rebirth First Reactions + Reviews":

-2) Besides that 1 bit of bad acting, I haven't thought much of the lab lockdown scene until this video (0:13). Now I'm wondering, what's the deal w/D. rex's arm? It looks like it's twisting all the way around ??? :
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Dilopho

Quote from: HD-man on June 20, 2025, 04:56:29 AMBesides that 1 bit of bad acting, I haven't thought much of the lab lockdown scene until this video (0:13). Now I'm wondering, what's the deal w/D. rex's arm? It looks like it's twisting all the way around ???


I mean..maybe it has the same mobility as a human arm, we can twist our arms like that
Since it's some kind of mutant there's nothing to really suggest it shouldn't be able to do that where a normal dinosaur wouldn't

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HD-man

This new video seems to confirm 2 things: 1) The reviews are more mixed than early reactions implied; 2) I was right to worry that the trailers & TV spots show too much :-\
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Giganotosaurus

Jurassic World Rebirth was great!!

Five dinosaurs out of five 🦕 🦖 🦕 🦖 🦕

(My local theater had an early screening!)

Dolores is actually really really cute.
The T Rex scene was the best part of the movie.

I think my new ranking goes:
Jurassic Park
Jurassic Park III
Fallen Kingdom
Rebirth
Jurassic World
The Lost World
Dominion
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Cpt Red 3eard

I'm afraid that I've got a far more critical review.
If you don't want to see any negativity, ignore me. I won't be spoiling anything in a major way, but if you are sensitive to spoilers, ignore me.
The major takeaway is this: if you want a monster movie with dinosaurs in it with some fun moments, then this movie is pretty good. If you want something more, something to make you reflect upon it, then this movie is not very good.

I'm of the latter opinion.
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This movie felt like a generic Syfy channel movie with a Jurassic skin on it. There were no major themes, philosophical undertones, or anything that I considered interesting enough to keep thinking about.
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There were no efforts made to explain the weird physical appearance of the dinosaurs as real hybrids, or iterations by the scientists, and all of the animals look odd. I know that you can headcanon that, but I believe the movie should be doing the work for the audience, not the other way around. Our paleontologist character has nothing interesting to note about the animals on the island.
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And there are several instances where I found myself taken out of the film when you try to figure out the reason behind things. "How are there so many titanosaurs? This island would struggle to feed a small herd of 5, let alone dozens of these behemoths." "Are these creatures here just generic 'prehistoric' creatures? Were they cloned? How? There's no precedent for these species? Are they meant to be real species?"
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There were a few "this is supposed to be funny" moments in the film that all major blockbusters have no that I do not care for. I like it when movies are more subtle with their humor. I rolled my eyes a few times, but the audience seemed to be enjoying it.
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The music was either forgettable or downright bizarrely implemented. The JP theme was used as they were flying into a bar. No wonder, not mystique, just...here's the music you recognize.
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Some specific spoilers now. Ye be warned.
I enjoyed a couple of scenes:
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the only scene with raptors (why did they bother creating a new design if they aren't going to even show them properly), and the rex scene. Both pretty tense with some nice camera work.
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There are several homages to the original novel(s) and movie. The novel references are subtle enough that if you know, you know, but the average person won't realize. There are some blatant scenes from the original movie:
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namely, the mutadon in the convenience store being, at times, a shot for shot from raptors in the kitchen.
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And the one at the end that left a sour taste in my mouth-
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leaving the island into the sunrise, looking off to the side and seeing a modern day animal. This REALLY didn't work. In the first, it's Grant's realization that we don't have to bring dinosaurs back. We have birds-they're still with us in a way and that's how it should be. It's a perfect ending. In Rebirth, it's...dolphins. Why? There's no reason to connect anything with dolphins at all, but the way that it's shot and the swell of the music invites us to that same moment in the helicopter and it just falls flat.
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My expectations were LOW after Dominion, and I figured that after watching the first trailer, I knew exactly what to expect story-wise. Edwards is pretty good at what he does, so there should be interesting shots. I would invite being pleasantly surprised, but alas, this movie was exactly what I thought it would be. I didn't hate it, I didn't like it. 6/10
I hope you have a better time than me.

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Quote from: Cpt Red 3eard on June 24, 2025, 03:06:06 PM
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leaving the island into the sunrise, looking off to the side and seeing a modern day animal. This REALLY didn't work. In the first, it's Grant's realization that we don't have to bring dinosaurs back. We have birds-they're still with us in a way and that's how it should be. It's a perfect ending. In Rebirth, it's...dolphins.
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You're joking, right?  :*D  ????



Shane

Quote from: Cpt Red 3eard on June 24, 2025, 03:06:06 PM
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There were no efforts made to explain the weird physical appearance of the dinosaurs as real hybrids, or iterations by the scientists, and all of the animals look odd. I know that you can headcanon that, but I believe the movie should be doing the work for the audience, not the other way around. Our paleontologist character has nothing interesting to note about the animals on the island.
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And there are several instances where I found myself taken out of the film when you try to figure out the reason behind things. "How are there so many titanosaurs? This island would struggle to feed a small herd of 5, let alone dozens of these behemoths." "Are these creatures here just generic 'prehistoric' creatures? Were they cloned? How? There's no precedent for these species? Are they meant to be real species?"
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I really wish any piece of JP media tried to explain how we go from Maisie releasing dinosaurs from a small warehouse that seems like it could contain, at most, 50 dinosaurs, to a world where dino species we've never seen before including massive sauropods and seemingly endless raptors and tons of other prehistoric creatures are present in huge numbers. I know some specimens were sold off to black market bidders prior to the end of Fallen Kingdom, but my understanding is that ALL the dinos currently in existence around the world originated from the specimens they were able to offload from Isla Nublar before the volcano exploded. Or at least that's what the movie led me to believe. But the subsequent movies and Camp Cretaceous all seem to inhabit a world where dinosaurs are damn near everywhere. Has there ever been an explanation for this?

Faelrin

#789
For those who watched it already did you all find it more enjoyable then Dominion (assuming you did not enjoy Dominion)?

I've not watched any footage beyond the first two trailers, and I don't intend to before seeing the film. Just making that clear.

That said, I am curious about one thing. Any new species not seen in the trailers? Are the rumors of the

Spoiler
Anurognathus (and frog like)
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being in the film true? It's the only one I know of that doesn't have a figure from Mattel yet, other then the Mutadon from trailer 2, but that's assuming it is in it of course. Was Ankylosaurus present as well? It's in the marketing (like the Dr Pepper can), and some of the toys include it. If it is in it, is the coloring of the Mattel toy similar to it, or is just another different repaint (similar to Dominion's toy that had different colors to the film design)?

Edit: Any live Parasaurolophus as well? I know of the dead prop one.
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Quote from: Shane on June 24, 2025, 07:10:28 PM
Quote from: Cpt Red 3eard on June 24, 2025, 03:06:06 PM
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There were no efforts made to explain the weird physical appearance of the dinosaurs as real hybrids, or iterations by the scientists, and all of the animals look odd. I know that you can headcanon that, but I believe the movie should be doing the work for the audience, not the other way around. Our paleontologist character has nothing interesting to note about the animals on the island.
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And there are several instances where I found myself taken out of the film when you try to figure out the reason behind things. "How are there so many titanosaurs? This island would struggle to feed a small herd of 5, let alone dozens of these behemoths." "Are these creatures here just generic 'prehistoric' creatures? Were they cloned? How? There's no precedent for these species? Are they meant to be real species?"
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I really wish any piece of JP media tried to explain how we go from Maisie releasing dinosaurs from a small warehouse that seems like it could contain, at most, 50 dinosaurs, to a world where dino species we've never seen before including massive sauropods and seemingly endless raptors and tons of other prehistoric creatures are present in huge numbers. I know some specimens were sold off to black market bidders prior to the end of Fallen Kingdom, but my understanding is that ALL the dinos currently in existence around the world originated from the specimens they were able to offload from Isla Nublar before the volcano exploded. Or at least that's what the movie led me to believe. But the subsequent movies and Camp Cretaceous all seem to inhabit a world where dinosaurs are damn near everywhere. Has there ever been an explanation for this?

Life found a way!  :))



Gwangi

#791
Quote from: Faelrin on June 24, 2025, 08:53:33 PMFor those who watched it already did you all find it more enjoyable then Dominion (assuming you did not enjoy Dominion)?

I've not watched any footage beyond the first two trailers, and I don't intend to before seeing the film. Just making that clear.

That said, I am curious about one thing. Any new species not seen in the trailers? Are the rumors of the

Spoiler
Anurognathus (and frog like)
[close]
being in the film true? It's the only one I know of that doesn't have a figure from Mattel yet, other then the Mutadon from trailer 2, but that's assuming it is in it of course. Was Ankylosaurus present as well? It's in the marketing (like the Dr Pepper can), and some of the toys include it. If it is in it, is the coloring of the Mattel toy similar to it, or is just another different repaint (similar to Dominion's toy that had different colors to the film design)?

Edit: Any live Parasaurolophus as well? I know of the dead prop one.

I mostly want to know if raptors were even in the movie or if they were completely replaced with Mutodons. Lots of Velociraptor merch going around, no Mutodon merch. No full bodied raptor shots in the trailers either. I'm thinking that raptors were supposed to be in the film and then taken out in favor of the Mutodons. 

Cpt Red 3eard

Quote from: Faelrin on June 24, 2025, 08:53:33 PMFor those who watched it already did you all find it more enjoyable then Dominion (assuming you did not enjoy Dominion)?

I've not watched any footage beyond the first two trailers, and I don't intend to before seeing the film. Just making that clear.

That said, I am curious about one thing. Any new species not seen in the trailers? Are the rumors of the

Spoiler
Anurognathus (and frog like)
[close]
being in the film true? It's the only one I know of that doesn't have a figure from Mattel yet, other then the Mutadon from trailer 2, but that's assuming it is in it of course. Was Ankylosaurus present as well? It's in the marketing (like the Dr Pepper can), and some of the toys include it. If it is in it, is the coloring of the Mattel toy similar to it, or is just another different repaint (similar to Dominion's toy that had different colors to the film design)?

Edit: Any live Parasaurolophus as well? I know of the dead prop one.

Re: Anurognathus
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One or at least a green animal that slightly resembles one has a one second cameo
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Re: Ankylosaurus
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It very briefly appears in a dark scene. I couldn't make out the exact coloration, but it seemed darkly colored a bit like in JP3
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Re: Parasaurolophus
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Just the prop one on the beach. Unless you count artwork of one in the beginning of the film.
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Cpt Red 3eard

Quote from: Gwangi on June 24, 2025, 09:14:56 PM
Quote from: Faelrin on June 24, 2025, 08:53:33 PMFor those who watched it already did you all find it more enjoyable then Dominion (assuming you did not enjoy Dominion)?

I've not watched any footage beyond the first two trailers, and I don't intend to before seeing the film. Just making that clear.

That said, I am curious about one thing. Any new species not seen in the trailers? Are the rumors of the

Spoiler
Anurognathus (and frog like)
[close]
being in the film true? It's the only one I know of that doesn't have a figure from Mattel yet, other then the Mutadon from trailer 2, but that's assuming it is in it of course. Was Ankylosaurus present as well? It's in the marketing (like the Dr Pepper can), and some of the toys include it. If it is in it, is the coloring of the Mattel toy similar to it, or is just another different repaint (similar to Dominion's toy that had different colors to the film design)?

Edit: Any live Parasaurolophus as well? I know of the dead prop one.

I mostly want to know if raptors were even in the movie or if they were completely replaced with Mutodons. Lots of Velociraptor merch going around, no Mutodon merch. No full bodied raptor shots in the trailers either. I'm thinking that raptors were supposed to be in the film and then taken out in favor of the Mutodons. 

Spoilers for sure here. Be ye warned.

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Velociraptors are only in one shot, out of focus for about 7 seconds. We don't even get a good look at their design in the film. The mutadons have a good 5-10 minutes of being a threat. They mostly act like raptors in this film. It wouldn't surprise me if the mutadons were added in pretty late since they barely use their wings to accomplish much of anything in the film.
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Takama

First review I saw has been pretty pretty negative for this film.

I wonder if this can dethrone JWFK as the worse film in my book?



Giganotosaurus

According to a JP Toys Discord insider/admin, Mutadons were intended for the film, but then dropped by the time Universal finalized toy plans with Mattel (which explains why there are no Mutadon toys yet). Late in production, the Mutadons were added back.

The list of (live, not dead!) dinosaurs in Rebirth are:

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Apatosaurus
Titanosaurus
Mutadon
D Rex
5-6 foot Newts
Spinosaurus
T Rex
Velociraptor
Compies
Ankylosaurus
Aquilops
Dilophosaurus
Mosasaurus
Quetzalcoatlus
Anurognathus
Small Pteranodon
Tentacle Monster
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Angurius on TohoKingdom

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Cpt Red 3eard

Quote from: Takama on June 24, 2025, 09:36:06 PMFirst review I saw has been pretty pretty negative for this film.

I wonder if this can dethrone JWFK as the worse film in my book?




Let me say this. I don't think the film is bad. I know I was pretty negative on it, but I don't hate it. I felt pretty defeated walking out of Dominion, but this one just feels like wasted opportunity. Lots of people seem to like it pretty well, and I think general audiences will get a big kick out of it.
It's like...
It's like getting Cool Ranch Doritos when you want the basic kind, you know? Different preferences for different people.

Faelrin

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Wow so this film pretty much breaks the species roster trend set

by the first film. No live Parasaurolophus and barely any raptor screen time is absolutely unfortunate. No Triceratops either. I suppose this was bound to happen eventually though, as more new species are added with each film.

No doubt the lack of raptor screen time will upset folks going into it. They made the best raptor design since JPIII and kind of squandered some good sequences for it. I wish they would stop pushing these hybrids in nearly every film post World. I will give Dominion some credit where it is due for doing so. But hey at least Mattel made a decent figure of the design, and it will no doubt feature in JWE3.
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Thanks for the info folks. Much appreciated. My expectations are low, but I'm sure I'll still get a kick of some stuff in it like the river scene.
Film Accurate Mattel JW and JP toys list (incl. extended canon species, etc):
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Every Single Mainline Mattel Jurassic World Species A-Z; 2025 toys added!:
https://dinotoyblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=9974.0

Most produced Paleozoic genera (visual encyclopedia):
https://dinotoyblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=9144.0

Giganotosaurus

#798
Quote from: Cpt Red 3eard on June 24, 2025, 09:56:16 PM
Quote from: Takama on June 24, 2025, 09:36:06 PMFirst review I saw has been pretty pretty negative for this film.

I wonder if this can dethrone JWFK as the worse film in my book?




Let me say this. I don't think the film is bad. I know I was pretty negative on it, but I don't hate it. I felt pretty defeated walking out of Dominion, but this one just feels like wasted opportunity. Lots of people seem to like it pretty well, and I think general audiences will get a big kick out of it.
It's like...
It's like getting Cool Ranch Doritos when you want the basic kind, you know? Different preferences for different people.

Oh, don't feel bad for your tastes! I actually agree with you on a couple points! (As somebody who enjoyed the movie).
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Specifically, I'm disappointed we really didn't get any backstory on the D Rex and the Mutadons. Also, I found it crazy too that there were soo many Titanosaurs on that island!

Other aspects of the film I disliked:
The tentacle creature, which we never have explained or get to see fully. If it were a mutant, ok, let us know (and let us see it clearly). I personally think a Titanoboa would have been a better fit for that scene.

Many of the dinosaur designs.

No cameos of old characters returning (Tim and Lex?!!!).

The Carno and Diabloceratops being cut (due to lack of production time) certainly didn't help the film. (There is speculation that the scene where the Delgado family hears something moving in the bushes/trees was originally meant to be revealed as the Diabloceratops).
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