Aaron Doyle's dinosaur models (battle-brak on the old boards)

[Blade-of-the-Moon]

That would make for enormously expensive model wouldnt it? The prices multiply rather astronomically once you above about five inches.

I don't know, I bought MB-CG's male Para and it was only 32.30 for WSF and is 8.66" long.

So a body for 25.00 and a tail for about the same  could be 50.00 ? or so..not bad really.  Just think, you could do a 9" sauropod tail, a 9" body, and a 9" neck and a really good sized figure for under a 100.00 .

[Blade-of-the-Moon]

Then how did David Krentz get his 1/40 TRex master printed up in Shapeways? Its longer than 10" by quite a bit. As I recall he printed the master, then sent it off to be moulded and sells the casts (I have one and it is phenomenal) ..

Perhaps David did as I suggested and had it printed in parts for assembly. His mold maker  just molded the parts and cast them.

[Simon]

I am not into Raptors, but that is one nasty-arsed MoFo!!!!!

[Aaron Doyle]

Thanks for the input everyone.  I thought about cutting the tail as a seperate piece but its already getting kind of pricey at the current size.  I'm doing everything I can to keep it under $50 for WSF though.  I believe David Krentz's larger models were printed at a different site.  They do much higher quality prints but are also far more expensive than shapeways.  You definitely wouldn't want to try selling the prototypes directly on those.  At any rate this guy has a "big brother" in the works  so this is more to go with the other smaller scale models I've done.

As for the Psittacosaurus it has numerous issues.  I'm going to be doing a major fix on that one when I have time.  Right now there are too many issues for shapeways to print it.  This sucks because I know at least 12 people that got these and never had a problem, but shapeways has gotten stricter in their parameters.

[amargasaurus cazaui]

That would make for enormously expensive model wouldnt it? The prices multiply rather astronomically once you above about five inches.

I don't know, I bought MB-CG's male Para and it was only 32.30 for WSF and is 8.66" long.

So a body for 25.00 and a tail for about the same  could be 50.00 ? or so..not bad really.  Just think, you could do a 9" sauropod tail, a 9" body, and a 9" neck and a really good sized figure for under a 100.00 .

Well yes, that is true in a sense. The amount of density or material used determines the cost.....so if half the length of the animal is just a slender tail, there is alot of its length that is just not that thick or expensive to print. The more mass the model has the more the cost becomes prohobitive. That is why many of the artists are making the pieces hollow.

[Blade-of-the-Moon]

Thanks for the input everyone.  I thought about cutting the tail as a seperate piece but its already getting kind of pricey at the current size.  I'm doing everything I can to keep it under $50 for WSF though.  I believe David Krentz's larger models were printed at a different site.  They do much higher quality prints but are also far more expensive than shapeways.  You definitely wouldn't want to try selling the prototypes directly on those.  At any rate this guy has a "big brother" in the works  so this is more to go with the other smaller scale models I've done.

As for the Psittacosaurus it has numerous issues.  I'm going to be doing a major fix on that one when I have time.  Right now there are too many issues for shapeways to print it.  This sucks because I know at least 12 people that got these and never had a problem, but shapeways has gotten stricter in their parameters.

Ah, if your doing a bigger version then I would certainly hold out for that one. I would love to buy a good 15-22" really detailed feathered dromeosaur model.

[postsaurischian]

Thanks for the input everyone.  I thought about cutting the tail as a seperate piece but its already getting kind of pricey at the current size.  I'm doing everything I can to keep it under $50 for WSF though.  I believe David Krentz's larger models were printed at a different site.  They do much higher quality prints but are also far more expensive than shapeways.  You definitely wouldn't want to try selling the prototypes directly on those.  At any rate this guy has a "big brother" in the works  so this is more to go with the other smaller scale models I've done.

As for the Psittacosaurus it has numerous issues.  I'm going to be doing a major fix on that one when I have time.  Right now there are too many issues for shapeways to print it.  This sucks because I know at least 12 people that got these and never had a problem, but shapeways has gotten stricter in their parameters.

I think the 1:12 decision is the best, simply because all your other models are in that range too.

I still don't understand why Shapeways cancelled the Psittacosaurus. I have two of them and none is showing any flaws ..... and I am quite fussy about my figures' quality.
I have always complained about every model that I thought wasn't perfectly printed and I always got indemnity for a loss. My policy: If I pay the full amount of money, I am getting the full quality. Period.
Again: Both of my Psittacosaurs were printed perfectly, so there must be a mistake on Shapeways' side.

[tyrantqueen]

Thanks for the input everyone.  I thought about cutting the tail as a seperate piece but its already getting kind of pricey at the current size.  I'm doing everything I can to keep it under $50 for WSF though.  I believe David Krentz's larger models were printed at a different site.  They do much higher quality prints but are also far more expensive than shapeways.  You definitely wouldn't want to try selling the prototypes directly on those.  At any rate this guy has a "big brother" in the works  so this is more to go with the other smaller scale models I've done.

As for the Psittacosaurus it has numerous issues.  I'm going to be doing a major fix on that one when I have time.  Right now there are too many issues for shapeways to print it.  This sucks because I know at least 12 people that got these and never had a problem, but shapeways has gotten stricter in their parameters.

I think the 1:12 decision is the best, simply because all your other models are in that range too.

I still don't understand why Shapeways cancelled the Psittacosaurus. I have two of them and none is showing any flaws ..... and I am quite fussy about my figures' quality.
I have always complained about every model that I thought wasn't perfectly printed and I always got indemnity for a loss. My policy: If I pay the full amount of money, I am getting the full quality. Period.
Again: Both of my Psittacosaurs were printed perfectly, so there must be a mistake on Shapeways' side.

I was just wondering....Amargasaurus was one of the people who said his Psittacosaurus order ended in a fiasco. Perhaps it is an issue with people ordering from the US? Shapeways has a separate factory in the USA, right? I could be totally wrong about this, but maybe their quality control isn't up to the same standards as the Dutch one.
I've never had a single cancelled order, or a broken one. It's very strange.

[Gorgonzola]

Wow!  I am loving this model!

Shapeway's print restrictions are a bit of a disappointment, especially when it comes to the higher detail materials. I was actually toying around with the idea of splitting up some sauropods I'm planning to make in the future to try and squeeze some bigger specimens within their limitations, but who knows what the price will be when I get around to that. 

This model looks great though, I'm probably going to have to pick one up for myself in the future...

[amargasaurus cazaui]

My experience with Shapeways and the Psittacosaurus was due to ordering the model printed in high frosted detail. Apparently when you use that method the model walls are thinner and allow for greater detail. Unfortunately a side effect of that process is that in places where the model might be weaker or frail it may break in printing.My Psittacosaurus shattered at the place where the foot joins the base.
  From there, the way the issue was handled had nothing to do with Aaron or his model. Shapeways just simply refused to allow it reprinted in any other material. Not I suspect due to the model being unprintable, but because I felt at least, they just did not want to take the loss of material from printing it the first time and also having to refund the cash difference between the high priced detail model and the WSF piece. They fobbed me off with a ten percent discount coupon and a badly broken model for my nearly eighty dollars.
  I sent the model to Copper, who spent quite a bit of work rebuilding the foot and sculpting one entire toe back in to repair the model. Once repaired he painted the model and it came quite nicely. It is one of my favorite models in my entire collection.
  I do believe the model is printable in WSF, but Shapeways was not able to print it in one of their higher price formats without breaking it , so they said it is not useable.I am unsure if the option is given for the artists to restrict printing of the piece to a certain format to prevent breakage, but I would guess the answer is no. And since it cannot be printed in the more expensive options they gave it a fail.
  As to issues with the model itself the only things I noted were the incorrect hand posture and it does have too many fingers on the hands from what I have been able to determine.
  I refused to order from them for months over this incident, my first purchase from them, but one night I was tempted so badly by Manuel's Herrarasaurus that I gave in and placed an order. I would state that order came out perfectly , and so did a second order behind it as well. My lesson learned was simple, I order everything in WSF and do not gamble with it. Now I get to see how they do with the Yinlong, as I ordered it in frosted detail and it is attached to its base by a single foot as well. Cross your fingers  !!!

[Seijun]

I think it's lovely, but the feathers on the back of the head look weird to me.

[Patrx]

Have you considered doing some alternate poses for this guy? I think a calmer pose would be really cool. One doesn't often see Deinonychus relaxing, hah.

[amargasaurus cazaui]

Perhaps you could model a little gymnast for him to be standing on, and eating. Wait wrong thread....lol

[Aaron Doyle]

Perhaps you could model a little gymnast for him to be standing on, and eating. Wait wrong thread....lol

As long as it's not a Tenontosaurus... that bit is getting played out. 

[Patrx]

Perhaps you could model a little gymnast for him to be standing on, and eating. Wait wrong thread....lol

As long as it's not a Tenontosaurus... that bit is getting played out. 

Aye, it is! But if you wanted to do a predation scene, you could work up something like this:


I don't think that's been illustrated in figure form just yet.

[Aaron Doyle]

Perhaps you could model a little gymnast for him to be standing on, and eating. Wait wrong thread....lol

As long as it's not a Tenontosaurus... that bit is getting played out. 

Aye, it is! But if you wanted to do a predation scene, you could work up something like this:


I don't think that's been illustrated in figure form just yet.

That's a really cool idea, and something that seems doable.  Maybe as a set though since as a solid piece I imagine it would be a nightmare for them to clean at shapeways? 

Here are a couple more screenshots of the model

[postsaurischian]

   I want it soo bad!

[Aaron Doyle]

I'm waiting to see how the Deinonychus print turns out.  In the meatime I remodeled the Psittacosaurus to be easier for shapeways to print and clean.  It's been reproportioned to be more accurate, reposed to be free standing, The detail and texture has been completely redone, and the quills are a brand new, more printer friendly, sculpt.

[tyrantqueen]

Love the remodelled Psittaco If it's available, I'll pick it up

[amargasaurus cazaui]

I went straight over to buy one of course, but it was not there !!! Drat
I did notice one thing I wished to ask about . Is it just me, or should there not be only four toes and four fingers? I had understood that Psittacosaurus had evolved out both the fenestrae between the nostril and the eye, as well as the fifth digit on the hands and feet, both conditions that were present in more advanced ceratopsians, thus suggesting psittacosaurus itself was likely not the forebear of more derived ceratopsians.
  In keeping with this the skeleton I have at my house does have only the three larger toes and the smaller claw. The hands have THREE fingers and it was sugested there was a fourth with no claw so that the digit does not preserve generally.