2015 Hopes & Dreams

[Ultimatedinoking]

I didn't have a problem with the tail, but I know how the feather friends get if their theropods arnt covered nose to tail...

[stargatedalek]

@Gwangi
I had been going by memory of having seen one at a gift shop years ago, now that I see the pics its definitely better than I had remembered

@UDK
as for feathering,  we have fossils showing the extent of oviraptor feathers

[Ultimatedinoking]

@Gwangi
I had been going by memory of having seen one at a gift shop years ago, now that I see the pics its definitely better than I had remembered

@UDK
as for feathering,  we have fossils showing the extent of oviraptor feathers

I know, you were one of the feather friends I referred to 

[Gwangi]

Yes, like I said, it is not without flaws but overall a great model I think. Love the head in particular. I see it has not been reviewed on the blog yet. Might have to fix that.

[Ultimatedinoking]

Yes, like I said, it is not without flaws but overall a great model I think. Love the head in particular. I see it has not been reviewed on the blog yet. Might have to fix that.

Does oviraptor still have a crest? I thought it was given to citipati

[Gwangi]

Yes, like I said, it is not without flaws but overall a great model I think. Love the head in particular. I see it has not been reviewed on the blog yet. Might have to fix that.

Does oviraptor still have a crest? I thought it was given to citipati

I'm not up to speed on all that. All I know is that Citipati was called Oviraptor for years and most "oviraptor" reconstructions are actually Citipati.

[Ultimatedinoking]

Yes, like I said, it is not without flaws but overall a great model I think. Love the head in particular. I see it has not been reviewed on the blog yet. Might have to fix that.

Does oviraptor still have a crest? I thought it was given to citipati

I'm not up to speed on all that. All I know is that Citipati was called Oviraptor for years and most "oviraptor" reconstructions are actually Citipati.

Ah.

We shall call this hybrid species ovipati 

[DinoToyForum]

I didn't have a problem with the tail, but I know how the feather friends get if their theropods arnt covered nose to tail...

We are stamping down on this sort of goading. 30 day ban.

[crankydinosaur]

I really hope we get more non dinosaurs.... like they make all these species of dinosaurs but we can't get a Coryphodon or Eryops?

[Hynerpeton]

I really hope we get more non dinosaurs.... like they make all these species of dinosaurs but we can't get a Coryphodon or Eryops?

I agree

[amargasaurus cazaui]

@Gwangi
I had been going by memory of having seen one at a gift shop years ago, now that I see the pics its definitely better than I had remembered

@UDK
as for feathering,  we have fossils showing the extent of oviraptor feathers

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Are you stating we have fossils showing the extent of oviraptor feathers or oviraptorid specimens?

[DinoLord]

Well definitely of oviraptorid specimens (not sure about Oviraptor itself). I believe that they were found to have full pygostyles.

[amargasaurus cazaui]

Yes, like I said, it is not without flaws but overall a great model I think. Love the head in particular. I see it has not been reviewed on the blog yet. Might have to fix that.

The holotype specimen of Oviraptor was found quite incomplete and with a badly crushed skull and was originally classified as ornithomimid by Osborn. In 1976 Barsbold assigned several new specimens to the species...however upon examination one specimen.... IGN 100/42, which was large, well preserved and complete with head crest, was assigned to be oviraptor in 1981.Subequent study has removed this specimen from Oviraptor and placed it within Citipatti...but the damge was done. For years, every drawing and reconstruction of Oviraptor had been based on this more complete and well crested specimen. So does oviraptor have a crest? we dont know, and there is no evidence for or against although most other oviraptors seem to be crested.

Does oviraptor still have a crest? I thought it was given to citipati

I'm not up to speed on all that. All I know is that Citipati was called Oviraptor for years and most "oviraptor" reconstructions are actually Citipati.

[amargasaurus cazaui]

Well definitely of oviraptorid specimens (not sure about Oviraptor itself). I believe that they were found to have full pygostyles.

I understood this structure to be a simple gather for the tail feathers, and it would in that sense not demonstrate a fully feathered animal..only a fully feathered tail, if I understand correctly. I definitely agree , possibly from oviraptorids, but I dont think we stil have much for oviraptor itself, which I myself see as simply a smaller Citipatti myself.

[DinoLord]

The pygostyle indicates pretty advanced feathering - it's a trait that is also seen in birds (it allows for better use of the tail feathers in flight maneuvering). Furthermore earlier oviraptorosaurs like Caudipteryx have been found to be fully feathered. When taken into account along with the pygostyle in later oviraptorids and the brooding posture of Oviraptor (that suggests extensive arm feathering) it is likely that they were pretty covered in feathers.

[amargasaurus cazaui]

The pygostyle indicates pretty advanced feathering - it's a trait that is also seen in birds (it allows for better use of the tail feathers in flight maneuvering). Furthermore earlier oviraptorosaurs like Caudipteryx have been found to be fully feathered. When taken into account along with the pygostyle in later oviraptorids and the brooding posture of Oviraptor (that suggests extensive arm feathering) it is likely that they were pretty covered in feathers.

It had been stated we have evidence for what extent oviraptor itself was feathered. I am not seeing that in your answers......a pygostyle is a gather for tail feathers basically but implies or shows little for what extent the animal was feathered beyond the tail.Yes, it would seem likely that oviraptor was heavily feathered allowing for Caudiptery and ProtoArcheo, however that is not fossil evidence for the extent of feathering in oviraptor itself. The final point always given in the discussion is always the brooding posture of Oviraptors, but again, these are Citipattis, not Oviraptors themselves, and even if they were oviraptors, the problem that is never stated but is true of this theory is that it does not work. We are always told there would be no point in the brooding posture unless the dinosaur were feathered, but the reverse is also present. Feathers would not provide the eggs any warmth , or any protection except from predators or rain....the dinosaur would need a brooding patch like most brooding birds today have to allow warm skin against the egg to provide warmth. This all aside from the main point none of the brooding oviraptorids found so far have been assigned to oviraptor itself, but rather Citipatti.Citipatti, whose name means literally "god of the funeral Pyre" an exquisite name for brooding oviraptorids

[stargatedalek]

I had meant oviraptorids sorry, bad habit

[Concavenator]

Could anyone give some cute hints as to what Safari is bringing next year?? 
After all they are just hints.Harmless hints.
Oh,wow,the suspense keeps getting lower as the years advance!

[Concavenator]

Now  it's September..I think the new Safari figures are being released this month...or at least I hope so.
OMG I want to see them!BTW.Last minute prediction:Kentrosaurus.

[tyrantqueen]

Concavenator, in regards to your question, listen to the first line of this song

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=273eSvOwpKk