Forum etiquette

[BlueKrono]

For the record, everyone is projecting their own speculations on Killekor. In no post was it ever even hinted at that he had depression, an unpleasant social life or anything of the sort. If you've read his posts, I think they speak for themselves. My responses reflect my feelings on them. Likewise, his reasons for not returning are not known, by anyone. As far as we know he may never have looked at the DTF again, and since he hasn't responded to anyone's encouraging PMs that is what I'm inclined to believe.

[Doug Watson]

For the record, everyone is projecting their own speculations on Killekor. In no post was it ever even hinted at that he had depression, an unpleasant social life or anything of the sort. If you've read his posts, I think they speak for themselves. My responses reflect my feelings on them. Likewise, his reasons for not returning are not known, by anyone. As far as we know he may never have looked at the DTF again, and since he hasn't responded to anyone's encouraging PMs that is what I'm inclined to believe.

It's called empathy, you should try it and "for the record" Killekor last logged on here March 9 after his reinstatement but chose not to post anything. He hasn't logged in since.

[sauroid]

Killekor might find it awkward and uncomfortable to post in the forum anymore...

[BlueKrono]

For the record, everyone is projecting their own speculations on Killekor. In no post was it ever even hinted at that he had depression, an unpleasant social life or anything of the sort. If you've read his posts, I think they speak for themselves. My responses reflect my feelings on them. Likewise, his reasons for not returning are not known, by anyone. As far as we know he may never have looked at the DTF again, and since he hasn't responded to anyone's encouraging PMs that is what I'm inclined to believe.

It's called empathy, you should try it and "for the record" Killekor last logged on here March 9 after his reinstatement but chose not to post anything. He hasn't logged in since.

Long before any "piling on" of mine you were so concerned about. Virually every other member I've ever seen post had something of value to contribute. His quite frequently did not, being just exclamations or repetitions of the same thing on post after post. I know I'm not the only one who feels the way I do, but I expect no one else is going to want to raise their hand after this vitriol. In addition, every other member has been receptive to an appeal to reason, or at the very least, admonishment from the admins. CrypticPrism's recent response is a shining example of that, and he's no different in age. I don't go out into the tangled interwebs in hopes of creating an echo chamber that only reflects my own opinions back to me. I am always open to discussion and debate on any topic as long as it remains reasonably civil, as I expect it to here per the rules of this forum. Even if I don't agree with your opinion I still value it if it challenges my beliefs and forces me to articulate why I hold them.

[CrypticPrism]

I've started a war with a dandelion. Why does this happen so often?

[BlueKrono]

I've started a war with a dandelion. Why does this happen so often?

Does it? You're fine kid. This one was smoldering long before you joined. 

[CrypticPrism]

Oh, thank goodness. I guess all of that school councillor's speaking telling me that me being alone(except when at home) and suicidal for 2 years was a broken and whiny perspective of the world and that it was all my fault is still hovering in my head. Good Jesus, I'm really dark for a pretee-oh, wait.

[BlueKrono]

Oh, thank goodness. I guess all of that school councillor's speaking telling me that me being alone(except when at home) and suicidal for 2 years was a broken and whiny perspective of the world and that it was all my fault is still hovering in my head. Good Jesus, I'm really dark for a pretee-oh, wait.

I am truly sorry to hear that. I've dealt with depression and suicide before as well. I'm glad you're a part of this community, and I look forward to your continued contributions.

[CrypticPrism]

Thanks. I still have yet to reveal my collection.

[Bucklander]

My post was not aimed ONLY at you. As I said, I should have voiced my opinion earlier.

Even after all this time, people, including (and most recently) you, still seem to derive some sort of satisfaction out of this ganging up on Killekor. And, sadly, no matter how you look at it, that is what this has become.

Killekor broke rules. He was admonished. He broke the rules again. He was banned. Surely a friendly community would respond with sympathy and gentle guidance, not ridicule. It is interesting that you used the word vitriol to describe Doug's and my posts. Surely, vitriol is what very many members have poured out in abundance on Killekor these past months.

Okay, his posts were often without much substance, but they were harmless. And they were his expressions. If they served no other purpose, they allowed him an opportunity to express himself, and as I said, for all we know, they may well have been the only medium for him to express himself in. It's easy enough to just ignore posts of no substance.

Personally, I hold intelligence in high regard. However, I hold virtue (simple goodness or kindness) in higher regard. It's good to be clever. But if I had to choose between being clever and being kind, I'd go with kind. Most of the horrors of history have been committed by highly intelligent people!

You say you value a challenge to your beliefs. Well, here's my challenge (not just for you, but for all those who have posted anything about Killekor)...   Examine your conscience, and in all honesty, ask yourselves, were my posts necessary (given the admins were already disciplining him)? Did I get some pleasure out of joining in with everyone else? Do I care whether my contributions may have driven someone permanently away?

Because at this point, I know I feel pretty guilty for not weighing in sooner, and I am hoping, all those who made disparaging comments, and can put aside any kind of defensiveness and look at this honestly, are feeling guilty.

As a community of friendly like minded people, we have failed. Miserably!

[CrypticPrism]

Wait. What did I ever do insultingly at Killekor? BlueKrono gave me a compliment and I said thanks.

[Bucklander]

Oh, thank goodness. I guess all of that school councillor's speaking telling me that me being alone(except when at home) and suicidal for 2 years was a broken and whiny perspective of the world and that it was all my fault is still hovering in my head. Good Jesus, I'm really dark for a pretee-oh, wait.

I am truly sorry to hear that. I've dealt with depression and suicide before as well. I'm glad you're a part of this community, and I look forward to your continued contributions.

True. This had nothing to do with your comment. And it isn't a war. I think there are many on this forum who can sympathize.

I'd like to say more but unfortunately, I have to run. L :)et me just say, I value everyone's contributions. Can we just try to avoid UNNECESSARY negative comments.

[Bucklander]

Wait. What did I ever do insultingly at Killekor? BlueKrono gave me a compliment and I said thanks.

Nothing. None of this was about you, or has anything to do with anything you said.

[CrypticPrism]

Oh. The "and you" part was directed at BlueKrono. I thought it was directed at me scince I posted right before that. I'm gonna jump out of this subject now, before I get in trouble.

[DinoToyForum]

Forum rule number 7 is: Topics concerning politics and religion are discouraged.  Maybe it's just me, but I thought that would also mean political topics are discouraged from being in a signature or in an image.  I'm not blaming anyone here, I'm just saying what I had been thinking.  Personally, I feel uncomfortable with extreme political topics appearing on this forum in a casual manner.  Hitler is one example of this, and I appreciate CrypticPrism removing that from his signature.  Another example is posting an image of Donald Trump in a thread about dinosaur classification, it's Reply #47 here: http://dinotoyblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=5543.msg166270#msg166270

I feel making these extreme politicians appear on this forum like this isn't necessary or appropriate.  Personally, I'm not happy to see that image of Donald Trump remaining on this forum, due to the acceptance it seems to imply.  If that's how the admin/moderators feel it should be though, I accept that.

I'm not blaming.  Since CrypticPrism is 12 he might not realise why making these extreme politicians appear on this forum like that might cause upset.

"No politics" should mean "no politics".  Period.

There is no such rule. The rule is:

"7. Topics concerning politics and religion are discouraged."

The wording is intentional. Politics is ubiquitous and shouldn't be ruled out entirely, but certain topics lead to other rules being broken. Rule 7 is ammunition for moderators to nip it in the bud when we see the early signs of a topic degenerating.

[DinoToyForum]

Oh. How?

Maturity, valuable contributions to thread discussions, etc.

Come on Adam, please weigh in on this and call an end to this Killekor bashing.

Since you asked directly... I haven't received any moderator reports about this. If you see a forum rule being broken please flag them to a moderator. The forum is large enough now that the admin and moderators don't read every post.

Actually, that request goes out to everyone. I don't want to see the etiquette thread become a topic for public debate about each and every perceived infringement on the forum. That should be left for the moderators to consider in the staff room. So, please flag issues using the moderator system when you encounter them, don't discuss them here. Thanks! 

[Doug Watson]

For the record, everyone is projecting their own speculations on Killekor. In no post was it ever even hinted at that he had depression, an unpleasant social life or anything of the sort. If you've read his posts, I think they speak for themselves. My responses reflect my feelings on them. Likewise, his reasons for not returning are not known, by anyone. As far as we know he may never have looked at the DTF again, and since he hasn't responded to anyone's encouraging PMs that is what I'm inclined to believe.

It's called empathy, you should try it and "for the record" Killekor last logged on here March 9 after his reinstatement but chose not to post anything. He hasn't logged in since.

Long before any "piling on" of mine you were so concerned about. Virually every other member I've ever seen post had something of value to contribute. His quite frequently did not, being just exclamations or repetitions of the same thing on post after post. I know I'm not the only one who feels the way I do, but I expect no one else is going to want to raise their hand after this vitriol. In addition, every other member has been receptive to an appeal to reason, or at the very least, admonishment from the admins. CrypticPrism's recent response is a shining example of that, and he's no different in age. I don't go out into the tangled interwebs in hopes of creating an echo chamber that only reflects my own opinions back to me. I am always open to discussion and debate on any topic as long as it remains reasonably civil, as I expect it to here per the rules of this forum. Even if I don't agree with your opinion I still value it if it challenges my beliefs and forces me to articulate why I hold them.

You do realize that you don't have to log in to read the open threads on the forum like this one and you were very active commenting on Killekor before March 9 and since so he has had ample opportunity to see those comments without logging in. The thing that bugs me is it seems every time someone laments his absence you feel compelled to chime in and "repeat" your objections to him and "repeat" your opinion of his failings. Seems repetitive and not really adding to the conversation.

[DinoToyForum]

I think the Killekor discussion has run its course now. Thanks!

[Rain]

I don't mean to start a debate, but it seems this "friendly" community has pushed away yet another forum member. Seriously guys, this happens way too often. He's gone from posting everyday to not posting at all..

EDIT: No, I'm not talking about Killekor

[Ravonium]

I don't mean to start a debate, but it seems this "friendly" community has pushed away yet another forum member. Seriously guys, this happens way too often. He's gone from posting everyday to not posting at all..

EDIT: No, I'm not talking about Killekor

If you're talking about me. I'm not going to stop posting entirely. I have not been posting as much recently but this is because of something very minor compared to what happened with Killekor. I have already done 3 posts today (including this one), which is more than the 0 I posted yesterday.

If you're talking about CrypticPrism (which you most likely are), then I've not seen something that indicates he was 'pushed away from the forum'. I will say, though, that he has been less active nowadays.