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What dinosaurs look best with feathers?

Started by CarnegieCollector, August 10, 2016, 03:53:44 AM

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Which of these, in your opinion, look best with feathers? (Evidence or lack thereof feathers doesn't apply)

Ornithomimosaurs (Deinocheirus, gallimimus, ornithomimus, pelicanimimus, struthiomimus)
Oviraptorids (Anzu, Gigantoraptor, Oviraptor, citipati, apatoraptor)
Tyrannosaurs (Tyrannosaurus, Yutyrannus, tarbosaurus, gaunlong, daspletosaurus, gorgosaurus)
Dromeosaurids (Velociraptor, Deinonychus, Utahraptor, archreoraptor, dakotaraptor)
Ornithischians (Stegosaurus, Triceratops, ankylosaurus, hypsilophodon, parasaurolophus, Corythosaurus)
Misc. carnivores (Carcharodontosaurus, acrocanthosaurus, coelophysis, allosaurus, Giganotosaurus, spinosaurus)
How they really looked in life is my favorite.

CarnegieCollector

SORRY!!! I put this poll in the wrong section by mistake. I ment to put it in the paleontology section. I am sorry. I don't know how to move it!
My bad  :P

Hi-oh! I would just like to hear everyone's opinions on the dinosaur group that looks best with feathers! I don't personally like feathered dinosaurs much, but I'd still like to hear everyone's opinions!

Note: choosing a group doesn't mean you agree with ALL listed in that group, it just means at least one of them specifically is nice looking with feathers.

P.S I don't know why anyone would choose spinosaurus as the best looking feathered Dino!  ;D

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sauroid

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Silvanusaurus

Why do you not like feathered dinosaurs? They are beautiful, elegant, sophisticated animals whose eventual achievements in flight are nothing short of extraordinary. They are also the only ones that have survived to this day in a mind-boggling variety of forms. To each his own I suppose, but personally I find them all endlessly enchanting.
If Spinosaurus did turn out to have had feathers I think it would only serve to make it a more wonderously interesting animal.

CarnegieCollector

Quote from: Silvanusaurus on August 10, 2016, 10:56:39 AM
Why do you not like feathered dinosaurs? They are beautiful, elegant, sophisticated animals whose eventual achievements in flight are nothing short of extraordinary. They are also the only ones that have survived to this day in a mind-boggling variety of forms. To each his own I suppose, but personally I find them all endlessly enchanting.
If Spinosaurus did turn out to have had feathers I think it would only serve to make it a more wonderously interesting animal.
Hmm....I don't know. I just never really cared for them very much. I do like feathered oviraptors. They look cool. Raptors also look pretty good with them. I think it's because I never liked birds very much, Iv always been a more reptile, scaly, cold-blooded-heartless-killer kinda guy  ;D
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acro-man

i like ALL feathered dinosaurs.
they look more real and can associate with modern birds, which feels familiar and not that scary.
i didn't say i hate scary dinosaurs. but i hate overly exaggerated scary dinosaurs.
let's change our taste once in a while.
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Quote from: Silvanusaurus on August 10, 2016, 10:56:39 AM
Why do you not like feathered dinosaurs? They are beautiful, elegant, sophisticated animals whose eventual achievements in flight are nothing short of extraordinary. They are also the only ones that have survived to this day in a mind-boggling variety of forms. To each his own I suppose, but personally I find them all endlessly enchanting.
If Spinosaurus did turn out to have had feathers I think it would only serve to make it a more wonderously interesting animal.
Quote from: acro-man on August 10, 2016, 03:04:27 PM
i like ALL feathered dinosaurs.
they look more real and can associate with modern birds, which feels familiar and not that scary.
i didn't say i hate scary dinosaurs. but i hate overly exaggerated scary dinosaurs.
let's change our taste once in a while.
I agree with both of you  :))
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tyrantqueen

Do we have to go over this argument again?

Whether or not you like the feathered look, it's undeniable that some dinosaurs had them. Feelings don't make any difference.

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I think the discovery and embrace of the feathers in dinosaurs makes companies and artist able to make more realistic and artistic figures, expanding the range of poses and paint jobs that can be done.
I have to admit that at first,  feathered dinosaurs looked weird to me, but now a naked dromaeosaur or therizinosaur it's what looks strange.

The Atroxious

I agree with Sauriod. The dinosaurs that look best with feathers are the ones that had feathers, whatever ones those may be. The jury's still out on tyrannosaurines and derived ornithopods, but if they did indeed have them, they undoubtedly looked good with them.

I don't feel that integument really makes a difference in making an animal look better or worse. Either said animal had a specific type of integument or it didn't, and animals that evolved to possess a certain type of integument that lost it through artificial means, such as a sphynx cat or a naked chicken look somewhat peculiar.

Patrx

#9
Since this is evidently a discussion of mere aesthetic preference, I'll agree that I like seeing dinosaurs restored with feathers for a lot of the same reasons as those that have been mentioned already. It brings them down to reality, away from the silly old "bloodthirsty monster" imagery and into something you might actually see here on planet earth. It's always a mistake to try and make them look "scary"  ;D
Partly because of this, I like to see feathery versions of animals which are rarely shown that way - like spinosaurs, allosaurs, and carcharadontosaurs.

But, as TQ rightly points out, our opinions and feelings cannot be said to matter in any measurable way - dinosaurs were what they were and are what they are!

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CarnegieCollector

I'm nit picky when it comes to feathered dinosaurs. They need to look a certain way to appeal to me.
Take ol Rex for an example. I think he looks best naked (as in, no feathers. I don't like actual naked dinosaurs...), however, some interpretations look really good with feathers. Such as these:
http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/dinosaurs/images/7/79/Tyrannosaurus-rex-a-genus-mohamad-haghani.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20150106161034
http://orig15.deviantart.net/3f93/f/2013/039/b/a/ornito_by_haghani-d5u8afl.jpg

But others.....not so much in my opinion:
https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--msVNlurs--/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/813266302148042132.jpg
http://th03.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/i/2014/294/e/f/tyrannosaurus_rex___updated_version_by_moricemonkey93-d83n1sa.png

I think oviraptorids, dromeaosaurids, therizinosaurids, and troodontids all look good with feathers.

For others, they have to look a certain way to appeal to me.

And a big, fat NO! to feathered sauropods! I still have nightmares.....*shiver*
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Federreptil

I don't understand the poll. Why I schould take only two choices when I think that first four are feathered and only two last groups are proably without feathers?
If I can take four options, I will take the first four offers and will remain the last two naked. So I can not select only two without being unfair to the rest.

If there is an evidence, that a species are feathered, I like it feathered. And if there are further nacked species, they should remained nacked. The group of dinosaurs are so huge, that there is enough space for both types and maybe we will learn that some dinosaurs will look neither like a bird nor like a crinkly reptilian. Take the book 'All Yesterdays' from John Conway and think this further. In this way of thinking it's more than only 'feathered' or not. Many recontructions are looking always like masqueraded reptilians and not really birdish like many should look.


Silvanusaurus

Personally of all the animals, the one I like best with feathers is the Giraffe. The look of a Giraffe with feathers just really appeals to me. I find a Giraffe doesn't look as cool without feathers, or if it only has feathers on it's back. A Giraffe with no feathers just look a bit silly, really. On the other hand, I prefer parrots without feathers, because they look scarier that way.  >:D

CarnegieCollector

#14
Quote from: Silvanusaurus on August 10, 2016, 10:57:04 PM
Personally of all the animals, the one I like best with feathers is the Giraffe. The look of a Giraffe with feathers just really appeals to me. I find a Giraffe doesn't look as cool without feathers, or if it only has feathers on it's back. A Giraffe with no feathers just look a bit silly, really. On the other hand, I prefer parrots without feathers, because they look scarier that way.  >:D

Your evil!  :))  :))

But in all seriousness, Hippos look best with a heavy coat of feathers. Jus' sayin'.
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Rain

#15
You guys are digging way to deep into this, lol. It's just a question asking you which one you like the best not what your take on feathers is O:-)
The poll even says "Evidence or lack thereof feathers doesn't apply"

Also, definitely Dromeosaurs for me. But I also like feathered Tyrannosaurs, even T rex as long as it isn't feathered like a Dromeosaur.

Takama

Personally, i think such a question is somewhat offensive.

Everyone in the general public sees Dinosaurs as monsters.   But they are not they are real animals that lived.

I dont care if some Dinosaurs had feather's or not, if its a Dinosaur, i will love it. I never went through a phase in life were i saw dinosaurs as nothing but big savage monsters, and i did not prefer a scaly raptor over a Feathered (or vice versa) I just dont feel the reason as to why such a question should be asked in the first place. These are animals, not fictional creatures like Dragons and Griffons. I think we should not have a preference in how we see them.  I think a true dinosaur fan loves dinosaurs for what they really are, and not for what some pop culture media makes you believe, and if they hate the fact that most dinosaurs (im talking about the fact that there are more avian dinosaurs known then non avian dinosaurs, both dead and alive) had feathers and cannot accept the fact that the stars of Jurassic park and the like are inaccurate or outdated, then i dont think they should be considered true dinosaur fans.

Please take this with a grain of salt, as i just saw the title of this thread and felt an impulse to write my thoghts

CarnegieCollector

Quote from: Takama on August 10, 2016, 11:55:41 PM
Personally, i think such a question is somewhat offensive.

Everyone in the general public sees Dinosaurs as monsters.   But they are not they are real animals that lived.

I dont care if some Dinosaurs had feather's or not, if its a Dinosaur, i will love it. I never went through a phase in life were i saw dinosaurs as nothing but big savage monsters, and i did not prefer a scaly raptor over a Feathered (or vice versa) I just dont feel the reason as to why such a question should be asked in the first place. These are animals, not fictional creatures like Dragons and Griffons. I think we should not have a preference in how we see them.  I think a true dinosaur fan loves dinosaurs for what they really are, and not for what some pop culture media makes you believe, and if they hate the fact that most dinosaurs (im talking about the fact that there are more avian dinosaurs known then non avian dinosaurs, both dead and alive) had feathers and cannot accept the fact that the stars of Jurassic park and the like are inaccurate or outdated, then i dont think they should be considered true dinosaur fans.

Please take this with a grain of salt, as i just saw the title of this thread and felt an impulse to write my thoghts

Thank you for sharing your thoughts on the subject. The entirety of this poll was to hear people's thoughts on what dinosaurs look best with feathers in paleoart. I don't know if I made that clear though!  :))
None the less, thanks for sharing your thoughts!
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CarnegieCollector

If I knew how to get rid of this poll I would   :P
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Gwangi

#19
In terms of paleoart any dinosaur can be made to look good with feathers. Personally I prefer they be reconstructed based on what we know but part of the fun with dinosaurs is speculation. If done right, even something like this Pachyrhinosaurus by Mark Witton looks awesome with a fluffy coat.



Of course, feathers can be poorly reconstructed as well. Like this Velociraptor.


But when done right...


And I don't care who you are, this is awesome.


So really it's not about which dinosaurs I like feathered, it's about how they're feathered. I like my dinosaurs realistic and accurate. But that's not to say I don't enjoy retro looking dinosaurs for the sake of nostalgia and historical significance. I don't care how outdated it is, I still love the original "King Kong", "Valley of Gwangi", and paleoart by Charles Knight, and Zdeněk Burian.


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