Favorite: New For 2017

[CrypticPrism]

That's so true. If they had just released their limited editions as normal figures they'd be up there with safari and CollectA.

[Takama]

If they would just release a new Dinosaur each year for there Soft model series, i would be more inclined to buy there figures. this years Archaeopteryx looks outstanding. and I dont mind them makeing an Updated Spinosaurus, but can they mkae a new Species each year for the line?    like a Amargasaurus or Dilophosaurus?(two animal that were rumored for the Very First sereis of models)

[CrypticPrism]

A favorite dilophosaurus would be a welcome addition to my collection.

[tanystropheus]

I want to like Favorite. but the fact that there most obscure Dinos are a Pain to obtain due to being exclusives really turns me away from them

This is the main reason I am hesitant to support Favorite. They had potential....but what's the point. It's a depressing situation.
I might as well invest in PNSO or something...

[tanystropheus]

That's so true. If they had just released their limited editions as normal figures they'd be up there with safari and CollectA.

Some companies just don't want money, apparently. Poor business decisions.

[RobinGoodfellow]

That's so true. If they had just released their limited editions as normal figures they'd be up there with safari and CollectA.

Some companies just don't want money, apparently. Poor business decisions.

Japanese companies simply don't care about international market.
Favorite, Kaiyodo, Colorata, X-Plus, Kanna (etc..) are very hard to find outside Japan.
It's a commercial strategy.
A company can collapse without money.
If they still survive, the strategy works.
The "limited edition" strategy simply increase the company's prestige.
Everyone dreams about Ferrari, not about Volkswagen...

[sauroid]

very true about Japan brands' marketing scheme. they sell well even within Japan and nearby Asian countries. they dont need international exposure and patronage (through the usual marketing method) to succeed. people outside East Asia still manage to get their products anyway if they have the means and determination.
(they remind me of a certain clothing brand which are so limited but not that expensive and can only be purchased first hand via their limited international stores, they sell out the day they drop, but are VERY expensive in the resell market but people still desire them obsessively, and the company owners are rich A*)

[tanystropheus]

I understand, but they are still limiting themselves. If they are truly confident in their products, they should consider international release (or LE release?) or at least attempt to survey the market demand for their products overseas. Experiment a little, don't just release 'core' dinosaurs internationally. That's playing it safe. Nobody cares about 'core' these days. Gauging absolute demand by reviewing sales of 'core' dinosaurs in the West is a false test/standard. It doesn't amount to much and lacks predictive value.

These sets are great, and certainly more organic looking than the Safari or CollectA releases (the only thing that comes close is the Safari Ltd. Oviraptor on Nest), especially with respect to overall dynamism. They are also leaps beyond their very own statically posed toys.

I suppose we shouldn't obsess over Favorite. We have PNSO, REBOR and Creative Beast, as well as the awesome figures that are already being released by Safari, Papo and CollectA.

[RobinGoodfellow]

I understand, but they are still limiting themselves. If they are truly confident in their products, they should consider international release (or LE release?) or at least attempt to survey the market demand for their products overseas. Experiment a little, don't just release 'core' dinosaurs internationally. That's playing it safe. Nobody cares about 'core' these days. Gauging absolute demand by reviewing sales of 'core' dinosaurs in the West is a false test/standard. It doesn't amount to much and lacks predictive value.

These sets are great, and certainly more organic looking than the Safari or CollectA releases (the only thing that comes close is the Safari Ltd. Oviraptor on Nest), especially with respect to overall dynamism. They are also leaps beyond their very own statically posed toys.

I suppose we shouldn't obsess over Favorite. We have PNSO, REBOR and Creative Beast, as well as the awesome figures that are already being released by Safari, Papo and CollectA.

..well, I didn't say that I agree with Favorite's marketing scheme.
I said that usually collectors speak from a collector's point of view (of course).
A manager knows what's the best marketing scheme for a company better than a collector.
Making money is the main target for every company otherwise it collapse.
So, if a company makes money with its marketing scheme, that's the goal, like it or not..
Sad but true.
For example Sideshow (US) marketing scheme is: high end figures, limited editions, high prices, high level of collectors only.
They could do smaller, more affordable figures and sell them to a larger number of collectors.
But Sideshow's strategy works and they're making money so..
Judging a marketing scheme isn't so easy if you're not a business manager.

[PumperKrickel]

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[RobinGoodfellow]

The sideshow example doesn´t apply here, though. They would have to produce smaller, more affordable figures. Favorite already has the product, they would just have make it more accessible.

Since maximizing profits is the goal of every company, selling internationally would make a lot more sense.

Exactly as I said before: ".. usually collectors speak from a collector's point of view (of course). A business manager knows what's the best marketing scheme for a company better than a collector..." + "..The "limited edition" strategy simply increase the company's prestige.Everyone dreams about Ferrari, not about Volkswagen...".

[PumperKrickel]

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[Shonisaurus]

The figures of Asian dinosaurs are very scientific or at least try to be all one hundred percent. They are more adapted to the collectors than to the habitual buyer of dinosaurs as commented.

On the other hand in their day they made figures of dark prehistoric animals (that yes no dinosaurs) the Favorite company like the archelon that saved the archelon of the toob prehistoric animals of Collecta 2017. In the companies of known dinosaurs never had done, I am referring to Collecta (until this year), Safari, Papo and obviously Rebor since this company almost exclusively takes several years dedicating itself to theropods with some exceptions.

On the other hand, the figures of the Cambrian are avant-garde and even larger scale as the anomalocaris and opabinia.

As far as dinosaurs were concerned, they could dare to make dinosaurs more varied and new, but it should be noted that they made in limited versions Favorite fukuiraptor, tarbosaurus, saurolophus, fukuisaurus, concavenator (one of the best along with Collecta and Of our fellow Jetoar forum on the other hand the few companies pelecanimus (if any) have done it.Although what I say in limited versions. 

[stargatedalek]

A sure thing is never a sure thing in business. Just ask Target.

They probably don't want to expand into a dedicated western market because they don't need to expand. They clearly make enough money as-is so why attempt the expenditure required in marketing, shipping, localized translating (IE even the US and Canada have different laws regarding package language) and networking retailers.

Favorite and even Kaiyodo don't have large dedicated consumer bases in the west like say Good Smile does, they'd need to find a niche they could even sell their products in before dreaming of exporting them. Think about it, who would carry Favorite? Toys R Us might be willing to put them in the collectors section, and dedicated J-Pop retailers might be willing to stock them (although most that would already import them themselves), but it would take a long time before they ever made it into gift shops let alone general toy sections alongside established brands like Safari, and that's assuming Schleich didn't intimidate any retailer who tried to stock them.

[RobinGoodfellow]

A sure thing is never a sure thing in business. Just ask Target.

They probably don't want to expand into a dedicated western market because they don't need to expand. They clearly make enough money as-is so why attempt the expenditure required in marketing, shipping, localized translating (IE even the US and Canada have different laws regarding package language) and networking retailers.

Favorite and even Kaiyodo don't have large dedicated consumer bases in the west like say Good Smile does, they'd need to find a niche they could even sell their products in before dreaming of exporting them. Think about it, who would carry Favorite? Toys R Us might be willing to put them in the collectors section, and dedicated J-Pop retailers might be willing to stock them (although most that would already import them themselves), but it would take a long time before they ever made it into gift shops let alone general toy sections alongside established brands like Safari, and that's assuming Schleich didn't intimidate any retailer who tried to stock them.

Exactly

[BlueKrono]

A sure thing is never a sure thing in business. Just ask Target.

They probably don't want to expand into a dedicated western market because they don't need to expand. They clearly make enough money as-is so why attempt the expenditure required in marketing, shipping, localized translating (IE even the US and Canada have different laws regarding package language) and networking retailers.

Favorite and even Kaiyodo don't have large dedicated consumer bases in the west like say Good Smile does, they'd need to find a niche they could even sell their products in before dreaming of exporting them. Think about it, who would carry Favorite? Toys R Us might be willing to put them in the collectors section, and dedicated J-Pop retailers might be willing to stock them (although most that would already import them themselves), but it would take a long time before they ever made it into gift shops let alone general toy sections alongside established brands like Safari, and that's assuming Schleich didn't intimidate any retailer who tried to stock them.

Oh no. That we would ever lose Schleich... ::shudder::

[tanystropheus]

It's an interesting scenario, especially since there are a number of variables regarding Favorite and (theoretical) market expansion. They are probably content being exactly where they are.

This opens up some interesting questions. Would Sideshow sales skyrocket if they were to release an "affordable" 1/40 scale Dinosauria line? or would that move risk cannibalizing sales from their already successful line (the one that is currently targeted at upper middle class and rich folks)? Alternatively, perhaps, they could sustain a new sales momentum by releasing very different combination of dinosaurs across the various scales, incentivizing their current user base but not at the expense of appealing too heavily in favor of newcomers.

Also, there are ways to satisfy collectors while meeting sales expectations. A company (hypothetical) could sell limited quantities (assess quantities prior to sale), take preorders with advanced payments on their websites (to ensure sale commitment), kickstarter projects (external funding), expo/trade show exclusives (not my preference) and so forth...granted, this does not offer much of a benefit to consumers over the default ebay option, especially when taking into account shipping/packaging costs.

[stargatedalek]

A sure thing is never a sure thing in business. Just ask Target.

They probably don't want to expand into a dedicated western market because they don't need to expand. They clearly make enough money as-is so why attempt the expenditure required in marketing, shipping, localized translating (IE even the US and Canada have different laws regarding package language) and networking retailers.

Favorite and even Kaiyodo don't have large dedicated consumer bases in the west like say Good Smile does, they'd need to find a niche they could even sell their products in before dreaming of exporting them. Think about it, who would carry Favorite? Toys R Us might be willing to put them in the collectors section, and dedicated J-Pop retailers might be willing to stock them (although most that would already import them themselves), but it would take a long time before they ever made it into gift shops let alone general toy sections alongside established brands like Safari, and that's assuming Schleich didn't intimidate any retailer who tried to stock them.

Oh no. That we would ever lose Schleich... ::shudder::

I meant that Schleich has a "habit" of "allowing" small retailers to cease stocking other brands and stock solely Schleich instead.

[Halichoeres]

Since nobody has posted it yet, the close-up of the Pteranodon prototype:



As much as I like fish, it's harder to get excited about them when they're molded into another animal's jaws. Let alone two!

[Daspletotyrannus]

Since nobody has posted it yet, the close-up of the Pteranodon prototype:



As much as I like fish, it's harder to get excited about them when they're molded into another animal's jaws. Let alone two!

Hey they have two different cress. Didn't  one of the Pteranodon species become Geosternbergia (one on the right)? So is this a diorama of Pteranodon and Geosternbergia fighting over a fish? Or am I going crazy? Lol