Jurassic Park 4 [Jurassic World] (no spoilers)

[Patrx]

I dunno, something about this clip actually has me less excited for the film, rather than more so. For whatever reason, I get the impression that Pratt is sort of phoning it in, or simply being directed poorly. I might guess that this is an effort to play to his known strengths as an actor. In any case, it's quite a brief clip, and the bits with the dinosaurs were always going to be more interesting than the bits without them - so I shouldn't judge too harshly.

Certainly still planning to marathon all three existing films with my friends immediately before we see this one on opening day 

[Blade-of-the-Moon]

I actually liked it quite a bit despite there being no dinos shown.  There was a dynamic between the two of them , Owen seemed like Grant/Malcolm rolled up in one and Claire reminded me of Temperance Brennen/ BONES..very locked in her lab/self. So maybe we will get good memorable lines and scenes for the people as well this go round with nice fleshed out characters.

I'd peg Owen as Grant/Malcolm/Muldoon myself.

I didn't get any of these characters coming through particularly strongly in Pratt's performance. Grant is more contained, Malcolm is more unconventional, and Muldoon is more serious. I can't imagine any of these three characters thrusting their fists to imply sexual intercourse in the manner Pratt does here. Pratt is basically doing Starlord again, for better or worse. Such a mischievous character is certainly something new to the JP series.

I don't see much of Muldoon myself really..I think Frankenstein mix of some of Grant's love of dinosaurs and his outdoor character is in there, and of course Malcolm's playfulness feels pretty close.  I haven't seen GotG yet unfortunately so this my first time really seeing him act.   It could be the character is forcing himself to act this way because he actually cares for her but can't express it properly.

I've watched a few scenes of JP that have no dinosaurs in them and a lot of the dialogue feels like it falls similarly. I'm also totally nostalgic about the original so that weighs on it.   Conversations between people in TLW are also a bit similar.  Thankfully this is no where near as bad as some of the parts in JP3.

[stargatedalek]

Chris Pratt in Parks and Recreation was very different from GotG so its not that he always plays the same archetype as Starlord.

[Blade-of-the-Moon]

I haven't seen Parks and Rec yet, though my cousin says it's great.


new pic and article from Entertainment Weekly :

t's been nearly a decade since Hurricane Katrina, and the sign at the entrance of New Orleans' Six Flags still says "Closed for Storm." The rides inside may be shut down, but on this muggy day in June 2014, the enormous parking lot has been taken over by the $180 million-plus production of Jurassic World. In the fourth movie in the Jurassic Park series, the dinosaur island theme park that John Hammond (Richard Attenborough) was developing in the original 1993 film has finally come to fruition 22 years later. It is a thriving vacation destination, and the set reflects this. There is an elaborate main street with a visitor center, a gift shop, and restaurants. For the moment, everything is surprisingly calm. "It's going to be super boring," jokes Chris Pratt, who plays an ex-military dude living on the island and studying raptors. "It's just, like, us watching dinosaurs for an hour and a half." Hardly. Soon enough, Pratt and costar Bryce Dallas Howard are ducking for cover from flying pteranodons and screaming, "Run!"

Some things never change. In keeping with the previous films, Jurassic World is a tale of humans who get cut (or chomped) down to size when they try to outwit nature in the name of the almighty dollar. "We have seen that we will repeat our mistakes if there's money on the table," says director Colin Trevorrow. "It's not about the danger of playing God. These animals are real, and they're on our planet."

To boost attendance at the swank new park, operations manager Claire (Howard) introduces a genetically modified dino into the mix. But of course the big baddie escapes and unleashes a rampage—right when Claire's young nephews (Ty Simpkins and Nick Robinson) happen to be visiting the island. In one scene that pays homage to the first Jurassic's iconic T. rex/Ford Explorer sequence, the unlucky lads come close to becoming the beast's playthings. "There's a ride at the park that allows you to get into a gyroscopic sphere and be out in the wild with dinosaurs and travel beneath them—and that goes horribly wrong," says Trevorrow, whose only other feature is 2012's time-travel indie Safety Not Guaranteed. "Imagine being inside a sphere and then suddenly it breaks and you're rolling like a cat with a ball of yarn." Enter Claire, who morphs into an Ellen Ripley-like heroine to protect her nephews. "Becoming a mother myself, I've realized being maternal is being wildly badass," the actress says with a laugh.

Howard and Pratt also got to inject a bit of love/hate, Romancing the Stone-esque electricity into their characters. "They don't like each other at all, and by the end that's changed," Trevorrow says. "We think that [classic conceit] absolutely can apply to a dinosaur movie."

Making those kinds of decisions is all part of the job on a colossal operation like Jurassic World. It's no small feat to jump from an indie like Safety (which cost $750,000) to a major franchise. But producer Frank Marshall and exec producer Steven Spielberg liked what they saw in Trevorrow. "Colin understood the [Jurassic] movies," Marshall says. "That's what Steven and I felt was the most important thing—he's a storyteller." Trevorrow is aware of the tall order he faced. "There are a lot of people in my generation who dreamed of being filmmakers who would love to have this job, and I feel a responsibility to all of them to make this everything that we all wish it could be," he says. "If I can pull that off, that's my gift back to Steven." And to us.

[Patrx]

I've watched a few scenes of JP that have no dinosaurs in them and a lot of the dialogue feels like it falls similarly. I'm also totally nostalgic about the original so that weighs on it.   Conversations between people in TLW are also a bit similar.  Thankfully this is no where near as bad as some of the parts in JP3.

That's mostly true for me as well. However, the scene with Hammond talking with Sattler about his vision for the park, that always gets me a little choked up. This may be due in large part to the acting talents of Lord Richard Attenborough.

[Blade-of-the-Moon]

I've watched a few scenes of JP that have no dinosaurs in them and a lot of the dialogue feels like it falls similarly. I'm also totally nostalgic about the original so that weighs on it.   Conversations between people in TLW are also a bit similar.  Thankfully this is no where near as bad as some of the parts in JP3.

That's mostly true for me as well. However, the scene with Hammond talking with Sattler about his vision for the park, that always gets me a little choked up. This may be due in large part to the acting talents of Lord Richard Attenborough.

Ah man..that scene is MAGIC.  Right actors, right mood, music, everything.  It also delivers one of my favorite lines " Creation is an Act of Sheer Will." I printed and taped that to my computer monitor here years ago as an inspirational. It's done the job.

There is a concept scene from the Making of JP book where the survivors flee by helicopter, but Hammond stays behind. Alone amid the trees and sauropods. It to would have been a very moving scene, but would have negated Hammond's lesson I think.

[Patrx]

I think Hammond's characterization is one of the major reasons I prefer the JP film to the novel. The "original" Hammond was a typical Crichton villain - shortsighted, ruthless, obsessive, and impatient.
The film's Hammond was, well, as a friend of mine recently put it, Dinosaur Santa. He was a character I could really identify with, and his mistakes were borne of idealism more than greed. I feel like that made the story of the park itself more complex and interesting.

[Blade-of-the-Moon]

I think Hammond's characterization is one of the major reasons I prefer the JP film to the novel. The "original" Hammond was a typical Crichton villain - shortsighted, ruthless, obsessive, and impatient.
The film's Hammond was, well, as a friend of mine recently put it, Dinosaur Santa. He was a character I could really identify with, and his mistakes were borne of idealism more than greed. I feel like that made the story of the park itself more complex and interesting.

I do have to agree there. The novel is a bit darker anyway, Hammond is the dark side of Walt Disney as I have heard some put it.

It helped Sir Richard actually played Santa too..lol I don't think he was a true villain in anything that I recall. Looking back it seemed to me whenever anyone got mad at him, whether it was Gennero, Grant, Ellie, ect..it made it feel like they beating on someone just because they were a dreamer and a kid at heart.  He did things without a ton of thought because it was fun and exciting. When reality came knocking and people died that changed him.  You could tell in TLW he had a little of that child-like quality left but he was diminished overall. :/

Speaking of the lawyer, he was actually an alright guy in the novel.

[DinoToyForum]

Dinosaur santa, you said "dinosaur santa"! 

[kreativtek]

Dinosaur santa, you said "dinosaur santa"! 

Oh my God. Now I will never look at Richard Attenborough's John Hammond the same!

Regarding that new Jurassic World clip, I'm not impressed. Some part of me is hoping that it's just a sketch recorded specifically for the MTV event. Maybe it's not a real scene from the film? I'm looking forward to seeing the new trailer, which is expected to be revealed by the end of the month. Judging by the photo posted above, I'm starting to fear that dinosaurs in Jurassic World will be more like dinosaurs from Disney's Dinosaur film and less lifelike animals from Jurassic Park.

[Shadowknight1]

I think Hammond's characterization is one of the major reasons I prefer the JP film to the novel. The "original" Hammond was a typical Crichton villain - shortsighted, ruthless, obsessive, and impatient.
The film's Hammond was, well, as a friend of mine recently put it, Dinosaur Santa. He was a character I could really identify with, and his mistakes were borne of idealism more than greed. I feel like that made the story of the park itself more complex and interesting.

I completely agree.  And I'm glad that Jurassic World is going to show a theme park that has been thriving.  Hammond's dream COULD have worked if he hadn't been so reliant on automation.  Would've also been wise to anticipate anything going wrong with their safety measures as well as observing the dinos' behavior for a while before integrating them into the park.

[suspsy]

The internet is not reacting positively to this latest clip. Even Avengers 2 director and beloved geek icon Joss Wheden saw it fit to express his displeasure. Frankly, I agree with him.

http://www.zap2it.com/blogs/jurassic_world_clip_hated_by_everyone_joss_whedon-2015-04

[Blade-of-the-Moon]

I think Hammond's characterization is one of the major reasons I prefer the JP film to the novel. The "original" Hammond was a typical Crichton villain - shortsighted, ruthless, obsessive, and impatient.
The film's Hammond was, well, as a friend of mine recently put it, Dinosaur Santa. He was a character I could really identify with, and his mistakes were borne of idealism more than greed. I feel like that made the story of the park itself more complex and interesting.

I completely agree.  And I'm glad that Jurassic World is going to show a theme park that has been thriving.  Hammond's dream COULD have worked if he hadn't been so reliant on automation.  Would've also been wise to anticipate anything going wrong with their safety measures as well as observing the dinos' behavior for a while before integrating them into the park.

I think the issue was assuming you could control something you had no knowledge of as Ellie pretty much said it.

The easiest way the Park could work is having an all herbivore population I think. Would Jurassic Park have worked if it had only been herbivores? Probably, but for how long?  Hammond in the novel observed while the tour was looking in on the Rex :


   " Look at them... Leaning out of the windows, so eager. They can't wait to see it. They have come for the danger."

If the public is getting bored of a huge mosasaur and a big T-Rex then how long would only a herbivore population work?

[Dobber]

Where are you all seeing the apatosaurus eyes? I've watched that trailer that was posted a few pages back and can't see any the eye's of Apatosaurus. What am I missing?

Chris

[DinoToyForum]

Apatosaurus eye in this trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWIKJ1bQ1-w

Still:

[Blade-of-the-Moon]

That's it, the scene with the dying Apato. Just looks a bit faux being blue and having the white there.

[Pachyrhinosaurus]

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[Shadowknight1]

I think Giacchino was a good choice for the music in the film, especially since I expect John Williams is still taking it relatively easy in his old age by restricting himself to worrying about Star Wars(which I'm sure he could score in his sleep after 6 goes at it already).

Giacchino did an excellent job with Star Trek and Star Trek Into Darkness by creating new themes but weaving the classic themes throughout.  I expect Jurassic World will have a little more emphasis on the classic theme though since it's probably even more recognizable than Star Trek's.

[Dobber]

Apatosaurus eye in this trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWIKJ1bQ1-w

Still:

Ah ok thanks. I was watching the trailer that was posted during the walking dead. Everyone was commenting on the Apato eye color and the only Apato's that you can see are far away in that trailer. Thought you all had super sight or something! . Thanks for the picture!

Chris

[reinier zwanink]

Man i wished I could do that to an apatosaurus