JURASSIC WORLD: DOMINION

[Shadowknight1]

@Fembrogon Thanks for sharing the original source. He also posted a render of the Pyroraptor as well. Thing is just so beautiful. Can't be more pleased, and am so ready for the merch that will drop.

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Be ready for at least some of the merch to be like the big basic figure and the LEGO with the broken wrists and no wings.

[Faelrin]

@Shadowknight1 Oh of course, since these would have been in production before the design was finalized (like the whole Pachyrhinosaurus/Sinoceratops thing that happened in 2018). I do wonder if it could be easily customized though. Too bad David doesn't have more of those BotM build a raptor kits for sale I think. Would be a fantastic opportunity for one of those to be built up and painted to look like this one (including using the Sauronitholestes crest piece). I hope if they do a Hammond Collection one down the line they fix up the wings though.

I also just realized they did the tail on this thing more like Zhenyuanlong instead of the old Microraptor/fan tail paleo-meme which is a really nice touch, at least from the angle shown in the trailer, although it could have been unintentional too.That basic figure seems to reflect this somewhat too, so may have been there from the start. I mean really aside from the bald JW raptor head, bald legs (although they seem to be inspired by the Ostrich), and wrist wings, this is quite the step up for this franchise! It probably helped that my expectations were quite low to begin with, probably because of the previous leaks and the prologue's disappointing Oviraptor. This totally makes up for that though (for me anyhow).

Edit: I was wrong. Legs are not bald. They are actually feathered, but lightly. Zoom in on the image here, and you'll see.

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[Shadowknight1]

@Shadowknight1 Oh of course, since these would have been in production before the design was finalized (like the whole Pachyrhinosaurus/Sinoceratops thing that happened in 2018). I do wonder if it could be easily customized though. Too bad David doesn't have more of those BotM build a raptor kits for sale I think. Would be a fantastic opportunity for one of those to be built up and painted to look like this one (including using the Sauronitholestes crest piece). I hope if they do a Hammond Collection one down the line they fix up the wings though.

I also just realized they did the tail on this thing more like Zhenyuanlong instead of the old Microraptor/fan tail paleo-meme which is a really nice touch, at least from the angle shown in the trailer, although it could have been unintentional too.That basic figure seems to reflect this somewhat too, so may have been there from the start. I mean really aside from the bald JW raptor head, bald legs (although they seem to be inspired by the Ostrich), and wrist wings, this is quite the step up for this franchise! It probably helped that my expectations were quite low to begin with, probably because of the previous leaks and the prologue's disappointing Oviraptor. This totally makes up for that though (for me anyhow).

Edit: I was wrong. Legs are not bald. They are actually feathered, but lightly. Zoom in on the image here, and you'll see.

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I thought the same when I first saw it on my phone, then when I saw it in higher quality I noticed the feathers.

[Faelrin]

New renders dropped via Dr. Pepper cans. I already shared the Pyroraptor one earlier.

 
 
Edit: I can't remember if this one was shared here yet. Spoiler I guess, though I imagine most folks here are already well aware it is in the film by now:

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[Flaffy]

New renders dropped via Dr. Pepper cans. I already shared the Pyroraptor one earlier.

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Edit: I can't remember if this one was shared here yet. Spoiler I guess, though I imagine most folks here are already well aware it is in the film by now:

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Glad that they somewhat kept Therizinosaurus's beer belly.

[Faelrin]

Yeah aside from the eyes (vertical slit pupils don't make sense on such a large herbivorous animal), feet, and give or take some wrist pronation, it's pretty good. I guess the head is a bit on the deeper side, but the genus has no skull material, and the closest to reference from is probably Erlikosaurus. Close enough for me anyways.

Too bad the toy doesn't retain the deeper gut though, but that may be due to the action feature(s) it has, more so with the upper torso area, then the lower pelvis area, from the in hand/package pic of it I've seen.

[DinoToyForum]

I showed the trailer to my wife. She knew nothing going in. I was surprised that she almost cried with laughter at the beginning, when the dinosaurs and horses are galloping together – "it's like a spoof!" she said. And she said "oh no" when the original Jurassic Park cast was revealed, and "oh no!" when the Dilophosaurus appeared – even she recognised that shot was a blatant copy of the original JP shot.

My own reaction was similar but with lots more eye-rolling. The action scenes look like they'll be ridiculous and a slog to get through. And my exasperation with the incessant call-backs and references to scenes, shots, costumes and dialogue from the original trilogy continues to grow. I really don't understand why so many Jurassic Park fans get excited about this blatant nostalgia bait, I'm a huge Jurassic Park fan and just wish they'd stop it. I don't know why it winds me up while others get 'stoked', it just seems so desperate and creatively bankrupt to copy in this way.

Obviously I won't be going to see this in the cinema, the first two JW films were plain awful (I saw the first JW in the cinema, but learned from my mistake for JW:FK) and this looks like more of the same. But I'll see it at some point, of course, when I don't have to pay for it, and judge it then. Maybe it will be a masterpiece but I won't hold my breathe.

Your resident curmudgeon, Dr Admin. 

[suspsy]

I showed the trailer to my wife. She knew nothing going in. I was surprised that she almost cried with laughter at the beginning, when the dinosaurs and horses are galloping together – "it's like a spoof!" she said. And she said "oh no" when the original Jurassic Park cast was revealed, and "oh no!" when the Dilophosaurus appeared – even she recognised that shot was a blatant copy of the original JP shot.

My own reaction was similar but with lots more eye-rolling. The action scenes look like they'll be ridiculous and a slog to get through. And my exasperation with the incessant call-backs and references to scenes, shots, costumes and dialogue from the original trilogy continues to grow. I really don't understand why so many Jurassic Park fans get excited about this blatant nostalgia bait, I'm a huge Jurassic Park fan and just wish they'd stop it. I don't know why it winds me up while others get 'stoked', it just seems so desperate and creatively bankrupt to copy in this way.

Obviously I won't be going to see this in the cinema, the first two JW films were plain awful (I saw the first JW in the cinema, but learned from my mistake for JW:FK) and this looks like more of the same. But I'll see it at some point, of course, when I don't have to pay for it, and judge it then. Maybe it will be a masterpiece but I won't hold my breathe.

Your resident curmudgeon, Dr Admin. 

These are my sentiments as well. Nostalgia is cheap. I've also grown rather leery of Chris Pratt in recent years due to various things he's said and done which rub me the wrong way.

[Faelrin]

+1 to both of what you said @dinotoyforum and @suspsy. For Jurassic World I think it was fine, but this many films into it certainly does reek of the lack of originality, and I'm definitely growing tired of it as well. A film should be able to stand on its own legs after all. I am curious to see how the original cast and their respective characters will be handled from here.

[Carnoking]

I think there's a very fine line when it comes to fan service and callbacks. Some of it feels narratively sensible given the world of the stories i.e., the T. rex eating the goat in Jurassic World and chasing the flare, or Zach and Gray finding the remains of the old park, all of those are obvious callbacks and references but it falls in line with the canon. The rex eats goats, chases flares, and the new park was built near the old one, all fine and good. Even when we see recycled ideas like the pteranodons attacking the helicopters (something that was originally planned for the lost world) are fun to see finally realized through a modern lens.

There are also smaller moments that don't bug me as much, like the photo of Ellie and Grant together in the trailer (this could be more than service and actually tie into his character, which I appreciate), or the Indominus looking through the gyro-sphere just like the rex looked through the car window, or the rack focus from the rearview mirror to Owen in Fallen Kingdom (to be honest, I thought that was actually a fun and creative camera setup to begin with, the reference was just a cherry on top for me).

But what makes me curl my toes is when it's done so ham-fistedly and for literally no other reason than to say "Hey, look, remember this! This is just like in the first one! Isn't that awesome??"

Did the brachiosaurus have to strike the exact same pose during its death scene in Fallen Kingdom? No. I suppose it's sensible, rearing up to escape a danger, and it felt like a fitting sendoff to the island, I can swallow that but it's definitely pushing it. It's moments like when the rex strikes the exact same triumphant roaring pose in Fallen Kingdom for no sensible reason, or when the dumbwaiter won't close exactly like the cabinet wouldn't in the kitchen that really make me wanna face-palm.

[Blade-of-the-Moon]

I think there's a very fine line when it comes to fan service and callbacks. Some of it feels narratively sensible given the world of the stories i.e., the T. rex eating the goat in Jurassic World and chasing the flare, or Zach and Gray finding the remains of the old park, all of those are obvious callbacks and references but it falls in line with the canon. The rex eats goats, chases flares, and the new park was built near the old one, all fine and good. Even when we see recycled ideas like the pteranodons attacking the helicopters (something that was originally planned for the lost world) are fun to see finally realized through a modern lens.

There are also smaller moments that don't bug me as much, like the photo of Ellie and Grant together in the trailer (this could be more than service and actually tie into his character, which I appreciate), or the Indominus looking through the gyro-sphere just like the rex looked through the car window, or the rack focus from the rearview mirror to Owen in Fallen Kingdom (to be honest, I thought that was actually a fun and creative camera setup to begin with, the reference was just a cherry on top for me).

But what makes me curl my toes is when it's done so ham-fistedly and for literally no other reason than to say "Hey, look, remember this! This is just like in the first one! Isn't that awesome??"

Did the brachiosaurus have to strike the exact same pose during its death scene in Fallen Kingdom? No. I suppose it's sensible, rearing up to escape a danger, and it felt like a fitting sendoff to the island, I can swallow that but it's definitely pushing it. It's moments like when the rex strikes the exact same triumphant roaring pose in Fallen Kingdom for no sensible reason, or when the dumbwaiter won't close exactly like the cabinet wouldn't in the kitchen that really make me wanna face-palm.

I think that scene of the Rex kinda does that whole triumphant rearing Lion thing as just part of it's schtick anymore.  I did find it poignant the first time in FK where it "saved" Owen , started to roar and the volcano shut it down, something even it can't master/is subservient to. Now yeah that last time in FK I will admit did seem very out of place..I see why they did it..but still. 

[Faelrin]

Jurassic Outpost shared this new sticker book that has a bunch of new(?) renders:


Gotta say maybe it's because of the red and blue, but I really do think Blue and the new Pyroraptor make a great looking pair, despite one being more accurate, and the other retro. I don't think I've been this satisfied with this many of the new creature designs since like JPIII.

[Shadowknight1]

I still can't tell for sure if the Pyroraptor's underbelly is feathered or not and that's pretty much my only concern with the design at this point.  Yes, it has a "scary face" but I don't think it's too bad, especially since the only time we've had it shown to us with its mouth closed was when we were seeing it kind of from behind.  I'm also not sure if the longer feathers are meant to be white or a pale blue.

And despite many people saying otherwise, from what I see in the trailer, Pyroraptor DOES have lips.

[Flaffy]

Jurassic Outpost shared this new sticker book that has a bunch of new(?) renders:

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Gotta say maybe it's because of the red and blue, but I really do think Blue and the new Pyroraptor make a great looking pair, despite one being more accurate, and the other retro. I don't think I've been this satisfied with this many of the new creature designs since like JPIII.

Thanks for sharing. Other than the Giganotosaurus, I am also quite satisfied with the designs for JWD, especially the feathered ones. Who would've thought that we'd see Jurassic franchise would include feathered dinosaurs in their movies? And (almost)-properly done ones at that, not the half-arsed plucked chickens we were all fearing.

Maybe it's due to my expectations being set rock bottom after the clown-fest that was Fallen Kingdom, but I am oddly hopeful for JWD.

Another thing, I wonder why Mattel has been so secretive about revealing their toys of Pyroraptor? Especially since the Therizinosaurus toy has already been revealed, included in commercials and even found on shelves. I'd like to complete my Jurassic franchise dromaeosaur trio of Velociraptor, Atricoraptor and Pyroraptor.

[Duna]

Another thing, I wonder why Mattel has been so secretive about revealing their toys of Pyroraptor? Especially since the Therizinosaurus toy has already been revealed, included in commercials and even found on shelves. I'd like to complete my Jurassic franchise dromaeosaur trio of Velociraptor, Atricoraptor and Pyroraptor.

In my opinion, it seems that it probably wasn't at all a Mattel thing but Universal's, that pressed on Mattel to persecute the leaks of the toys (Mattel has never worried about that before, in fact reviewers make free and very good advertising of their toys) just a few days before the Dominion trailer was released. Once it was broadcast, all prosecution and intention has surprisingly vanished, even though there are toys whose figures don't show completely in the trailer (like therizinosaurus)

[Faelrin]

Yeah I find it really strange they are really secretive about the Pyroraptor figures so far, aside from that Basic figure that leaked early. Like we even got an officially revealed Dimetrodon figure before hand (although it is a retool of a previous figure, but still).

That said there's a mainline Pyroraptor coming out in June or summer in a 2 pack with Kayla, and another Ferocious Pack one coming out in fall. Part of me hopes they fix up the mainline ones to have the wings before they drop, but it's probably too late for that realistically.

The Therizinosaurus toy is apparently slated for an April release so make sense to reveal it now.

I'm also a little disappointed the Lystrosaurus didn't get a mainline figure (or yet. Also missing the prologue's Oviraptor I guess). No 'demon' Carnotaurus toy either surprisingly (or yet, at least the Allosaurus got the Extreme Damage one).

[MLMjp]

Yeah I find it really strange they are really secretive about the Pyroraptor figures so far, aside from that Basic figure that leaked early. Like we even got an officially revealed Dimetrodon figure before hand (although it is a retool of a previous figure, but still).

That said there's a mainline Pyroraptor coming out in June or summer in a 2 pack with Kayla, and another Ferocious Pack one coming out in fall. Part of me hopes they fix up the mainline ones to have the wings before they drop, but it's probably too late for that realistically.

The Therizinosaurus toy is apparently slated for an April release so make sense to reveal it now.

I'm also a little disappointed the Lystrosaurus didn't get a mainline figure (or yet. Also missing the prologue's Oviraptor I guess). No 'demon' Carnotaurus toy either surprisingly (or yet, at least the Allosaurus got the Extreme Damage one).

There still time for more reveals, we're still in February. I wouldn't worry that much for now.

Just noticed that the Therizinosaurus will have blue around it eyes as supposed to the red seen on the toy. Last minute change I guess

[Prehistory Resurrection]

https://youtu.be/AKVHUEQuerQ

[bone crusher]

This comes from a sticker book so I guess it's more or less the official size comparison then.
Aside from the over exaggerated size advantage over a T.rex, I swear they got the whole Giga physical reconstruction all wrong, it should be way slender then the T.rex and shorter legs too.

[GojiraGuy1954]

+1 to both of what you said @dinotoyforum and @suspsy. For Jurassic World I think it was fine, but this many films into it certainly does reek of the lack of originality, and I'm definitely growing tired of it as well. A film should be able to stand on its own legs after all. I am curious to see how the original cast and their respective characters will be handled from here.

I like the satire aspect of Jurassic World but I think they should have leaned into it more heavily