JURASSIC WORLD: DOMINION

[SRF]

Dinosaur fights in general are utter nonsense, so of course the ones in JP/JW are as well. That's one of the reasons why the first two movies of this franchise are still the best in my opinion.

[Dynomikegojira]

Can we agree that who ever gets the first lethal bite is usually the winner anyway but besides that they're both awesome.

T.rex in JP3 got the first bite on Spino yet it did nothing and got killed, T.rex in JW got the first bite on Indominus yet it did nothing and almost got killed if not for Blue. I bet T.rex would get the first bite again vs Giga and would do nothing except almost getting killed before Therizinosaurus shows up. So obviously one can see JP/JW fights are utter nonsense.

I'm referring to the actual animals and why the Giga won in the prologue.

[Willaim bratton]

Dont you think "trash " is too immature and rude to describe it. I used to also make such claims, but eventually I learned how hard it is when you do it yourself...(not this subject but the point still stands)

I don't think it's fair to labeling people as immature or fanboyish when we are genuinely criticizing the ending with enough scientific proofs and logic behind it. Your instigation doesn't hold water here, rather it's more insulting to us rex fans who actually have knowledge on this matter.
Look it's never about playing the favorite animal, if the body plan of Giga and T.rex is reversed then I would more than happy to side with Giga in a fight due to obvious physical advantages. And it's not even all about bite force either, sure a stronger bite would not only cut through flesh it would also deal bone damage which would cripple the victim faster in a fight. A T.rex is just overall much more robust built, being much heavier and bulkier literally head to toe, such physical advantage would surely aide its success rate to win a fight against a Giga. If we follow strictly by fossil evidence and skeletal reconstructions done by the academics, it's highly unlikely the more slender, lighter weight animal would come on top. What Universal did with their rendition of the Giga betrays everything that is scientifically known about this creature and that is why many of us fans are furious about it. They souped up the Giga while at the same time nerfed the T.rex all for the plot, it's a big middle finger to the faces of tons of long time T.rex fans of this franchise. No way to sugarcoat it.

This

[Willaim bratton]

Trevorow didn't say accurate for the franchise, he bragged about how paleontologically accurate the prolog was . He did infact lie, plain and simple, direct quote on the prolog:  " We get to see these dinosaurs in thier paleontologically correct form . Its the first time we don't have dinosaurs  that were completed with frog DNA nd therefore inaccurate for those who pay attention." And he's said it over and over again, even admitibg to have left the prolog Tyrannosaurus unchanged so its recognizable but still calling it " Scientifically accurate " when he knew it wasn't.  This is the same man who fervently tweated " No feathers" in 2015 , he doesn't care about accuracy or dinosaurs _ he only cares about making a buck off a nostalgia sucking cash cow.

I have my own issues with the things that Trevorow has said but he is just a movie director and clearly the Jurassic Park universe is separate our real world hence man sized Velociraptor being found in North America.

That's one example, there are a 100 more too.  Jurassic may have started out in our universe, but it surely has surpassed that limit.

Let's not forget they did hire a paleontologist  adviser on the film, just like they did in the past as well.  But again, he's just an advisor, he can only suggest not enforce.     

We just need to either appreciate these movies as something fun, maybe a gateway to introducing kids to dinosaurs and the public at large..or just avoid them and let others have their fun.

I don't appreciate lying

[Willaim bratton]

Not in this case

On what grounds? Based on what evidence?

On the grounds that he knows full well what is & what isn't accurate,

[stargatedalek]

Not in this case

On what grounds? Based on what evidence?

On the grounds that he knows full well what is & what isn't accurate,

And why would he know that? What makes you so sure?

Also, Tyrannosaurus inherently winning is based on borderline fanfiction levels of misrepresenting the known science, plus, again, would be narratively terrible and incredibly boring.

[GojiraGuy1954]

Not in this case

On what grounds? Based on what evidence?

On the grounds that he knows full well what is & what isn't accurate,

And why would he know that? What makes you so sure?

Also, Tyrannosaurus inherently winning is based on borderline fanfiction levels of misrepresenting the known science, plus, again, would be narratively terrible and incredibly boring.

T. rex winning for the first time since 1993 would be infinitely more interesting than just the Indoraptor kill on a bigger scale

[Willaim bratton]

Not in this case

On what grounds? Based on what evidence?

On the grounds that he knows full well what is & what isn't accurate,

And why would he know that? What makes you so sure?

Also, Tyrannosaurus inherently winning is based on borderline fanfiction levels of misrepresenting the known science, plus, again, would be narratively terrible and incredibly boring.

No, its really  not. Tyrannosaurus did have a far more powerful bite( up to 6 tons) that literally split bone , Tyrannosaurus was far larger in muscle mass and bulk than every other big therapod, and Tyrannosaurus easily out ranks other therapods in strength& sense . Those are facts,not misrepresentation nor fanfiction ,dont believe me?? Then read the papers fir yourself or talk with the paleontologists who've worked on Tyrannosaurus as I have done . If you wanna be a child like JW /JP3's directors and kill Tyrannosaurus just because its " boring" than use a trike or big saurupod, other big therapods don't work unless you want interspecies combat. Could care less whats boring or not boring

[Willaim bratton]

Not in this case

On what grounds? Based on what evidence?

On the grounds that he knows full well what is & what isn't accurate,

And why would he know that? What makes you so sure?

Also, Tyrannosaurus inherently winning is based on borderline fanfiction levels of misrepresenting the known science, plus, again, would be narratively terrible and incredibly boring.

T. rex winning for the first time since 1993 would be infinitely more interesting than just the Indoraptor kill on a bigger scale

Agreed 👍, JW fights at this point are redundant and desperate i think

[Stegotyranno420]

Not in this case

On what grounds? Based on what evidence?

On the grounds that he knows full well what is & what isn't accurate,

And why would he know that? What makes you so sure?

Also, Tyrannosaurus inherently winning is based on borderline fanfiction levels of misrepresenting the known science, plus, again, would be narratively terrible and incredibly boring.

No, its really  not. Tyrannosaurus did have a far more powerful bite( up to 6 tons) that literally split bone , Tyrannosaurus was far larger in muscle mass and bulk than every other big therapod, and Tyrannosaurus easily out ranks other therapods in strength& sense . Those are facts,not misrepresentation nor fanfiction ,if you wanna be a child like JW /JP3's directors and kill Tyrannosaurus just because its " boring" than use a trike or big saurupod, other big therapods don't work unless you want interspecies combat. Could care less whats boring or not boring

Please be more considerate about your choice of words. Their  opinions does not make them a child. 
Eh, this is why I dont really get involved in discussions these days. Someone is bound to get name-called in a immature manner.
It's one thing to have a opinion, and another thing to be plain churlish
I say we should stop this discussion and move on. It's just gonna be a stalemate

[Mellow Stego]

It's just a movie, guys.
There's far worst things happening in our world right now to be upset over.

To help try to deviate the conversation here's my rankings for the JP franchise

1 Jurassic Park
2. Fallen Kingdom
3. Jurassic World
4. Jurassic Park 3
5 The Lost World

[stargatedalek]

I love being called an idiot by people who refuse to look up how theropod is spelled. Thanks for the ego boost, to be honest.

[KeU]

It's just a movie, guys.
There's far worst things happening in our world right now to be upset over.
To help try to deviate the conversation here's my rankings for the JP franchise
1 Jurassic Park
2. Fallen Kingdom
3. Jurassic World
4. Jurassic Park 3
5 The Lost World

Shock, The Lost World is last? Considering your favourite Dinosaur is a Stegosaurus and The Lost World has the most Stego screen time.

[Willaim bratton]

Not in this case

On what grounds? Based on what evidence?

On the grounds that he knows full well what is & what isn't accurate,

And why would he know that? What makes you so sure?

Also, Tyrannosaurus inherently winning is based on borderline fanfiction levels of misrepresenting the known science, plus, again, would be narratively terrible and incredibly boring.

No, its really  not. Tyrannosaurus did have a far more powerful bite( up to 6 tons) that literally split bone , Tyrannosaurus was far larger in muscle mass and bulk than every other big therapod, and Tyrannosaurus easily out ranks other therapods in strength& sense . Those are facts,not misrepresentation nor fanfiction ,if you wanna be a child like JW /JP3's directors and kill Tyrannosaurus just because its " boring" than use a trike or big saurupod, other big therapods don't work unless you want interspecies combat. Could care less whats boring or not boring

Please be more considerate about your choice of words. Their  opinions does not make them a child. 
Eh, this is why I dont really get involved in discussions these days. Someone is bound to get name-called in a immature manner.
It's one thing to have a opinion, and another thing to be plain churlish
I say we should stop this discussion and move on. It's just gonna be a stalemate

Sounds fine with me, again not trying to be a jerk, just stating facts

[GojiraGuy1954]

Not in this case

On what grounds? Based on what evidence?

On the grounds that he knows full well what is & what isn't accurate,

And why would he know that? What makes you so sure?

Also, Tyrannosaurus inherently winning is based on borderline fanfiction levels of misrepresenting the known science, plus, again, would be narratively terrible and incredibly boring.

No, its really  not. Tyrannosaurus did have a far more powerful bite( up to 6 tons) that literally split bone , Tyrannosaurus was far larger in muscle mass and bulk than every other big therapod, and Tyrannosaurus easily out ranks other therapods in strength& sense . Those are facts,not misrepresentation nor fanfiction ,if you wanna be a child like JW /JP3's directors and kill Tyrannosaurus just because its " boring" than use a trike or big saurupod, other big therapods don't work unless you want interspecies combat. Could care less whats boring or not boring

Please be more considerate about your choice of words. Their  opinions does not make them a child. 
Eh, this is why I dont really get involved in discussions these days. Someone is bound to get name-called in a immature manner.
It's one thing to have a opinion, and another thing to be plain churlish
I say we should stop this discussion and move on. It's just gonna be a stalemate

To be fair, Horner has a pretty immature reason for killing the Rex off in JP3. Not saying it was necessarily a horrid decision, but still.

[Mellow Stego]

It's just a movie, guys.
There's far worst things happening in our world right now to be upset over.
To help try to deviate the conversation here's my rankings for the JP franchise
1 Jurassic Park
2. Fallen Kingdom
3. Jurassic World
4. Jurassic Park 3
5 The Lost World

Shock, The Lost World is last? Considering your favourite Dinosaur is a Stegosaurus and The Lost World has the most Stego screen time.

Oh I enjoyed that part. Especially because herbivores don't get to do much in this franchise. Although that might change with the therazinosaurus.

My problem with the movie mainly comes down to the San Diego scene. From my understanding it was a last minute change to the movie from the director. Because of it we have characters that just disappear from the movie and main issues never being resolved. It's a whole quarter of the movie that felt pointless.

That being said I do still enjoy the movie. I just usually shut it off when they reach the raptors.

[JPuggy]

It's just a movie, guys.
There's far worst things happening in our world right now to be upset over.

To help try to deviate the conversation here's my rankings for the JP franchise

1 Jurassic Park
2. Fallen Kingdom
3. Jurassic World
4. Jurassic Park 3
5 The Lost World

Honestly this is pretty close to my rankings, just switch jp3 and Jurassic world and love lost world to the very top

[Jose S.M.]

For me it's


Jurassic Park
The Lost World
Jurassic World
Jurassic Park 3
Fallen Kingdom

I hate some character actions on TLW but the action and mood of that one gets me. And I don't mind the San Diego sequence, it does feel like an afterthought but the CGI is pretty impressive and I love the close ups of the Tyrannosaurus animatronic.

[Gwangi]

Not in this case

On what grounds? Based on what evidence?

On the grounds that he knows full well what is & what isn't accurate,

And why would he know that? What makes you so sure?

Also, Tyrannosaurus inherently winning is based on borderline fanfiction levels of misrepresenting the known science, plus, again, would be narratively terrible and incredibly boring.

T. rex winning for the first time since 1993 would be infinitely more interesting than just the Indoraptor kill on a bigger scale

I'm not sure what exactly we're talking about here. T. rex always loses fights? Or something? Lets see...

Jurassic Park: Fights with raptors, wins.
The Lost World: Jurassic Park: No fight with another dinosaur.
JP3: Loses to Spinosaurus, it was over 20 years ago, can people get over it?
Jurassic World: Technically loses and then wins anyway, thanks to teamwork. In that movie the T. rex is over 20 years old and fighting an uber hybrid, it really should have lost.
Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom: No fight against another dinosaur, she kills other dinosaurs but doesn't really fight them.
Jurassic World: Dominion: Remains to be seen, loses in prologue, whatever.

Anyway, the idea that the franchise is doing some grave disservice to Tyrannosaurus fighting power is absurd.

My ranking for the movies is as follows.

Jurassic Park
Jurassic World
Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom
The Lost World: Jurassic Park
Jurassic Park 3

[Stegotyranno420]

JP3
JW
JWFK
LW
JP