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JURASSIC WORLD: DOMINION

Started by dragon53, March 30, 2018, 06:46:59 PM

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bone crusher

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Quote from: Dynomikegojira on March 16, 2022, 05:01:36 PM
Can we agree that who ever gets the first lethal bite is usually the winner anyway but besides that they're both awesome.
T.rex in JP3 got the first bite on Spino yet it did nothing and got killed, T.rex in JW got the first bite on Indominus yet it did nothing and almost got killed if not for Blue. I bet T.rex would get the first bite again vs Giga and would do nothing except almost getting killed before Therizinosaurus shows up. So obviously one can see JP/JW fights are utter nonsense.
I'm referring to the actual animals and why the Giga won in the prologue.
The Giga won in the prologue wasn't due to the fact it bit first, more like Universal drastically buffed up its size compared to the real animal. In real life a T.rex with its significantly bulkier, heavier and more robust body would overpower the giga and shake off its bite. The laceration bite from Giga is deadly sure but it wont kill the rex immediately. Whereas a bone crushing bite would shatter the neck vertebrate and cripple the giga in an instant.


Stegotyranno420

Please, just drop it already. The rest of us are trying to have a normal conversation now....

HD-man

Quote from: dinotoyforum on February 16, 2022, 12:42:46 AMMy own reaction was similar but with lots more eye-rolling. The action scenes look like they'll be ridiculous and a slog to get through. And my exasperation with the incessant call-backs and references to scenes, shots, costumes and dialogue from the original trilogy continues to grow. I really don't understand why so many Jurassic Park fans get excited about this blatant nostalgia bait, I'm a huge Jurassic Park fan and just wish they'd stop it. I don't know why it winds me up while others get 'stoked', it just seems so desperate and creatively bankrupt to copy in this way.

Good post :) Reminds me of how I feel about the 1st JW ( https://www.deviantart.com/jd-man/journal/SD-My-favorite-aspects-of-Camp-Cretaceous-882741250 ):
QuoteIn fact, it reminds me of what the Nostalgia Critic said about "Independence Day" ( https://thatguywiththeglasses.fandom.com/wiki/Independence_Day ): "So many people keep telling me, "Oh, it's a popcorn movie! Can't you just have fun?" Well, let me tell you something; a water slide is fun...All the slipping and sliding, it's just great. But if someone took you off the waterslide, shook you, gave you a noogie and then spat in your face and put you back on the water slide, you'd be like... "That wasn't fun; that was weird and annoying."" That's basically JW. More specifically, JW has A LOT of simultaneous pandering to & mockery of JP fans (I.e. 1 moment it shows something from JP &/or plays the JP score for nostalgic feels, the next it shows the obvious character stand-in for JP fans getting s*** on for LOLs).
I'm also known as JD-man at deviantART: http://jd-man.deviantart.com/

stargatedalek

The first JW was flip flopping between pandering to nostalgia for the first movie and insulting anyone who liked the earlier sequels. Glad Fallen Kingdom walked that back and hoping Dominion either continues that or avoids suggesting back to them altogether now that Trevorrow is back at the helm.

Duna

#984
Quote from: Stegotyranno420 on March 18, 2022, 02:41:34 AM
Please, just drop it already. The rest of us are trying to have a normal conversation now....
He has stated a perfectly fine opinion and his opinion on the T-rex fight is as valid as yours previously against it. And yes, it's a normal conversation too, but yes, he has a different opinion to you, yes he can. Perfectly fine. Just looking back to all your answers in this thread and your words I'm just starting to think that it's just not a matter of sharing different opinions, is that you don't like anyone to have a contrary opinion to yours. I saw you coming from the beginning and I decided not to reply to you in the first time, because when I start to see those ways (age gives you a lot of experience), it normally ends like the fable of "The tiger, the lion and the donkey" and I cut it from the beggining. But you kept going to others, and your last comment is quite unpleasant.

My advise for you for the future, for the life, for everything is to assume that you might be wrong sometimes, yes, and nothing happens. That also when people shows one the right one must be glad so to learn and proud so that gives you more knowledge. And if you have an opinion and other people state theirs in contrary to yours, accept that and move on. Nothing happens, believe me. Nothing. Be happy. I'm very glad to find people with different opinions, they make the world a more interesting place.


By the way, my ranking about Jurassic Park - Jurassic World films:
1. Jurassic Park

End.

CityRaptor

Uh, this is a fan-made edit of the first trailer.
Jurassic Park is frightning in the dark
All the dinosaurs are running wild
Someone let T. Rex out of his pen
I'm afraid those things'll harm me
'Cause they sure don't act like Barney
And they think that I'm their dinner, not their friend
Oh no

Camzilla94

Dinosaur strength aside, I'd argue it's just lazy to do the same ending for all 3 of the World films.

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Willaim bratton

Quote from: Gwangi on March 17, 2022, 08:58:58 PM
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Quote from: Willaim bratton on March 16, 2022, 05:21:42 PM
Not in this case
On what grounds? Based on what evidence?
On the grounds that he knows full well what is & what isn't accurate,
And why would he know that? What makes you so sure?

Also, Tyrannosaurus inherently winning is based on borderline fanfiction levels of misrepresenting the known science, plus, again, would be narratively terrible and incredibly boring.
T. rex winning for the first time since 1993 would be infinitely more interesting than just the Indoraptor kill on a bigger scale

I'm not sure what exactly we're talking about here. T. rex always loses fights? Or something? Lets see...

Jurassic Park: Fights with raptors, wins.
The Lost World: Jurassic Park: No fight with another dinosaur.
JP3: Loses to Spinosaurus, it was over 20 years ago, can people get over it?
Jurassic World: Technically loses and then wins anyway, thanks to teamwork. In that movie the T. rex is over 20 years old and fighting an uber hybrid, it really should have lost.
Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom: No fight against another dinosaur, she kills other dinosaurs but doesn't really fight them.
Jurassic World: Dominion: Remains to be seen, loses in prologue, whatever.

Anyway, the idea that the franchise is doing some grave disservice to Tyrannosaurus fighting power is absurd.

My ranking for the movies is as follows.

Jurassic Park
Jurassic World
Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom
The Lost World: Jurassic Park
Jurassic Park 3
Its not " Absurd" ,the franchise HAS basically neutered Tyrannosaurus,  no bone splitting 6 ton bite is depicted rather Roberta has a pathetically weak bite that doesn't even split bone or draw blood  . If the real animal chomped the neck of either Spinosaurus or Indominus ,itd be instantaneous death as the neck vertebra would be split apart/ crushed ,along with the esophagus. Tyrannosaurus was much bulkier & larger than other big therapods whereas Roberta is far smaller and  far too thin( almost emaciated) as compared to either the Giga or spinosaurus ,loosing nearly every fight with another big therapod when it should be winning more times than loosing. The franchise has made Tyrannosaurus an animal that had heightened senses,great eye sight like a hawk on steroids and had spectacular hearing & smelling into an animal with poorly developed senses I.E. bad eyesight and bad sense of smell .

Gwangi

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Quote from: stargatedalek on March 17, 2022, 03:57:43 PM
Quote from: Willaim bratton on March 17, 2022, 02:55:24 PM
Quote from: stargatedalek on March 16, 2022, 05:24:48 PM
Quote from: Willaim bratton on March 16, 2022, 05:21:42 PM
Not in this case
On what grounds? Based on what evidence?
On the grounds that he knows full well what is & what isn't accurate,
And why would he know that? What makes you so sure?

Also, Tyrannosaurus inherently winning is based on borderline fanfiction levels of misrepresenting the known science, plus, again, would be narratively terrible and incredibly boring.
T. rex winning for the first time since 1993 would be infinitely more interesting than just the Indoraptor kill on a bigger scale

I'm not sure what exactly we're talking about here. T. rex always loses fights? Or something? Lets see...

Jurassic Park: Fights with raptors, wins.
The Lost World: Jurassic Park: No fight with another dinosaur.
JP3: Loses to Spinosaurus, it was over 20 years ago, can people get over it?
Jurassic World: Technically loses and then wins anyway, thanks to teamwork. In that movie the T. rex is over 20 years old and fighting an uber hybrid, it really should have lost.
Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom: No fight against another dinosaur, she kills other dinosaurs but doesn't really fight them.
Jurassic World: Dominion: Remains to be seen, loses in prologue, whatever.

Anyway, the idea that the franchise is doing some grave disservice to Tyrannosaurus fighting power is absurd.

My ranking for the movies is as follows.

Jurassic Park
Jurassic World
Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom
The Lost World: Jurassic Park
Jurassic Park 3
Its not " Absurd" ,the franchise HAS basically neutered Tyrannosaurus,  no bone splitting 6 ton bite is depicted rather Roberta has a pathetically weak bite that doesn't even split bone or draw blood  . If the real animal chomped the neck of either Spinosaurus or Indominus ,itd be instantaneous death as the neck vertebra would be split apart/ crushed ,along with the esophagus. Tyrannosaurus was much bulkier & larger than other big therapods whereas Roberta is far smaller and  far too thin( almost emaciated) as compared to either the Giga or spinosaurus ,loosing nearly every fight with another big therapod when it should be winning more times than loosing. The franchise has made Tyrannosaurus an animal that had heightened senses,great eye sight like a hawk on steroids and had spectacular hearing & smelling into an animal with poorly developed senses I.E. bad eyesight and bad sense of smell .

I know everything that you know about T. rex, I guarantee it, you're not telling me anything I don't know. I stand by my statement, it's absurd to take any of this seriously.

dragon53

I didn't realize it's fan-made one---they're usually labelled as such and I avoid them.

Mellow Stego

Quote from: Stegotyranno420 on March 17, 2022, 10:19:11 PM
JP3
JW
JWFK
LW
JP

Gotta ask, why is JP your least favorite? Just curious.
Keep calm and love dinosaurs

Stegotyranno420

I do not like to say j dislike it, as it is basically the scaffold of the rest, but rather I like the sequels. Its not a bad movie at all. But the other movies have alot more "big dino action" if you know what I mean. But I gotta give credit for the amazingly executed special affects.

Faelrin

D @dragon53 Plenty of fake fan made trailers out there trying to get quick views and ad revenue. And with dislikes removed (unless using an addon to restore their functionality like I do), it isn't as cut and dry like it used to be to discern what is legit and what's not. It's pretty scummy but is what it is. This is why I get my trailers directly from the source, and in this case either the Jurassic World or Universal youtube channels.
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dragon53

FAELRIN:

I post movie/tv news on another forum and use legitimate websites that post legitimate trailers. I'm usually pretty good about screening out the fan-made trailers, but this one got past me.

GojiraGuy1954

Quote from: stargatedalek on March 18, 2022, 02:37:10 PM
The first JW was flip flopping between pandering to nostalgia for the first movie and insulting anyone who liked the earlier sequels. Glad Fallen Kingdom walked that back and hoping Dominion either continues that or avoids suggesting back to them altogether now that Trevorrow is back at the helm.
FK didnt walk back on the pandering lmao did we even watch the same movie
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stargatedalek

Quote from: GojiraGuy1954 on March 18, 2022, 11:04:55 PM
Quote from: stargatedalek on March 18, 2022, 02:37:10 PM
The first JW was flip flopping between pandering to nostalgia for the first movie and insulting anyone who liked the earlier sequels. Glad Fallen Kingdom walked that back and hoping Dominion either continues that or avoids suggesting back to them altogether now that Trevorrow is back at the helm.
FK didnt walk back on the pandering lmao did we even watch the same movie
It walked back on insulting people who liked 2 and 3.

SRF

My ranking of JP/JW movies would be:

JP
TLW
JWFK
JW
JP3

The original Jurassic Park is probably the only good dinosaur movie that's actually a good movie. I like TLW because of the nostalgia factor and I liked Fallen Kingdom mostly for the fact that it brings some elements from the novel back into the movie franchise.
But today, I'm just being father

bone crusher

Quote from: Stegotyranno420 on March 18, 2022, 02:41:34 AM
Please, just drop it already. The rest of us are trying to have a normal conversation now....
It's called constructive criticism, burying your head in the sand won't mask the cold hard truth nor will tell others to shut up and living in denial. If my criticism triggers your fanboy bias so much you don't have to reply to me. But please don't tell me to stop posting, that's rude and don't just assume you are everyone else, do speak for yourself yes :)?

Gwangi

#998
Quote from: SRF on March 19, 2022, 06:55:05 AM
My ranking of JP/JW movies would be:

JP
TLW
JWFK
JW
JP3

The original Jurassic Park is probably the only good dinosaur movie that's actually a good movie. I like TLW because of the nostalgia factor and I liked Fallen Kingdom mostly for the fact that it brings some elements from the novel back into the movie franchise.

This. Although King Kong (1933) is both a good movie and a good dinosaur movie, even if dinosaurs aren't the focus. The original Land Before Time too. The point is, dinosaur movies that are also good movies are rare. I love dinosaur movies of all kinds, and I've seen them all. Even the Harryhausen classics aren't particularly good. Slow pacing, bad acting, sloppy story writing. Their redeeming qualities are usually the special effects. And that is how I'm able to stomach the Jurassic sequels, most of them aren't particularly good but for dinosaur movies they aren't bad either. Jurassic Park was lightning in a bottle.


Takama

#999
My Ranking of the Films?

The EXACT ORDER THEY WERE RELEASED IN

Because I dont understand why JP3 is considered worse then wacky Owen near the Lava :)), or SMIILING INDORAPTOR ::), not to mention when you consider the worst scene in JP3 (IMO) was just a Freaky Dream sequence when all those scens in JWFK took place IN REAL LIFE.




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