David Silva's Beasts of the Mesozoic: Ceratopsian Series - WAVE TWO SHIPPING!

[suspsy]

I frankly don't give a hoot if someone likes the BotM series or not. It doesn't affect me or my choices of purchase in the slightest. Heck, I'm only planning on purchasing two of them, possibly even three, max. The only reason I spoke out in the first place was because of the circus clown image. Personal opinion is one thing, but inequitable is inequitable.

Moving on now.

[RobinGoodfellow]

I frankly don't give a hoot if someone likes the BotM series or not. (...) Personal opinion is one thing, but inequitable is inequitable.

Moving on now.

No comment.
And moving on..

[Shonisaurus]

I sincerely like all the BoTM figures and I don't even dislike the colors of the ceraptosides (I respect the artistic license of Beast of the Mesozoic) I would like to buy them all but honestly if I buy, it will be one or two figures at most of this great brand . As I have repeated, I will not buy many BoTM figures for reasons of space and time, not because I don't want to, the same can be said of the resin replicas, dinosaur figures from Nanmu Studio (carnotaurus and sinoceratops) and the two Rebor dilophosaurus.

The only figures that I am going to order for now are the two figures of prehistoric animals from Eofauna (atlasaurus and deinotherium) to urzeitshop (Miron). But going to the subject of David Silva's figures, they all seem incredibly good to me, but what I might not like are totally bright colors, some ceraptosides seem painted like many abstract art paintings with many colors reminds me of modern sculptures with those colors so mixed but it is an appreciation of mine. The sculptures are great and with that I stay.

[Fenestra]

I think  it is a safe choice for a business to pick colours from nature.
I've seen mulitiple examples on this board where newly presented figures were "bashed" because people claimed the chosen colour pattern was stolen/copied.

[Faelrin]

The Styracosaurus is all painted up now (and it is shown alongside the older Styracosaurus model kit):

https://www.facebook.com/BeastSculptKit/photos/a.125819777433236/3028070577208127/?type=3&theater





This is probably going to be the one I pledge for initially. It's one I've been wanting so long now. Even if they aren't in the same scale, I think it will be interesting to have this go toe to toe with my Dromaeosaurus pair. I definitely get the impression this one is a breeding male too, with the vibrant red and orange, regardless that its colors came from a lizard. A quick google search on the lizard (Calotes calotes) confirms that this particular coloration (in regards to the red and orange) comes from a breeding male too.

[ITdactyl]

I'll confess to just wanting a couple (or 4) or the figs, just to mount Dino-Riders weapons on them.  Age is rotting my brain, but I'm still wishing for an updated Dino-Riders, and this'll probably be the closest I can get to that wish.

[suspsy]

More images of the unpainted Protoceratops prototype are on the CB Facebook page now. It will be interesting to see what kind of battle poses with the Velociraptor fans can come up with!

[LeapingLaelaps]

Here's the Protoceratops prototype pictures from Facebook! This dude looks so neat, I can't wait to see what he looks like all painted!

[Shonisaurus]

That protoceratops looks great! I hope it is cheaper than I imagine.

[Faelrin]

So while I'm really excited for this one (I mean I only wanted one ever since the first BotM kickstarter was a thing), I can't help but think it is on the skinny side (legs and tail). Am I correct in thinking that? Or is Protoceratops supposed to be like this?

[amargasaurus cazaui]

It looks within reason if it were sub adult or perhaps a thinner member of a group...but my first thought was yes it looks a bit starved and the tail looks a touch short to me, although not terribly much

[ZoPteryx]

I think the Protoceratops looks pretty good!  The tail may be a tad bit short and the forelimbs maybe could be beefed up a bit, but other than that I don't see any major differences to Scott Hartman's or Greg Paul's skeletals.

[LeapingLaelaps]

Chasmosaurus belli prototype from Facebook!

[Shonisaurus]

The chasmosaurus belli looks great I guess it will be large.

[Dinoguy2]

I think the Protoceratops looks pretty good!  The tail may be a tad bit short and the forelimbs maybe could be beefed up a bit, but other than that I don't see any major differences to Scott Hartman's or Greg Paul's skeletals.

Skeletals like this seem to assume that the throat extends horizontally from the roof of the mouth rather than diagonally downward from between the bottom of the lower jaws. I don't believe a Protoceratops with a neck like this would be physically able to swallow. Unless these animals had super weird esophagus I think their necks are restored about half as deep as they should be.

[ZoPteryx]

I think the Protoceratops looks pretty good!  The tail may be a tad bit short and the forelimbs maybe could be beefed up a bit, but other than that I don't see any major differences to Scott Hartman's or Greg Paul's skeletals.

*snip*

Skeletals like this seem to assume that the throat extends horizontally from the roof of the mouth rather than diagonally downward from between the bottom of the lower jaws. I don't believe a Protoceratops with a neck like this would be physically able to swallow. Unless these animals had super weird esophagus I think their necks are restored about half as deep as they should be.

I'm not disagreeing that the soft tissue silhouettes could be more filled out, but don't you think esophageal and tongue muscles could compensate for the condition you're describing?

[Dinoguy2]

I think the Protoceratops looks pretty good!  The tail may be a tad bit short and the forelimbs maybe could be beefed up a bit, but other than that I don't see any major differences to Scott Hartman's or Greg Paul's skeletals.

*snip*

Skeletals like this seem to assume that the throat extends horizontally from the roof of the mouth rather than diagonally downward from between the bottom of the lower jaws. I don't believe a Protoceratops with a neck like this would be physically able to swallow. Unless these animals had super weird esophagus I think their necks are restored about half as deep as they should be.

I'm not disagreeing that the soft tissue silhouettes could be more filled out, but don't you think esophageal and tongue muscles could compensate for the condition you're describing?

Yes, they probably could if necessary. But it's not necessary if you just make the outline deeper and add more soft tissue under the jaw and extending to the belly. But then they'd look fat.

The simplest explanation is that these animals were a lot bulkier than depicted, not that they had specialized digestive systems to get around their shrink wrapping. Look at the one in top view. It's literally skin and bones. There is no room for appropriately sized leg or tail muscles and no room for subdermal tissue or fat on the torso. You only need to look at the amount of soft tissue surrounding the skeleton of Psittacosaurus there is, to see how inaccurate this skeletal is.

https://www.geol.umd.edu/~jmerck/nature/specimens/htmls/psittacosaurus74586.html

[ZoPteryx]

The simplest explanation is that these animals were a lot bulkier than depicted, not that they had specialized digestive systems to get around their shrink wrapping. Look at the one in top view. It's literally skin and bones. There is no room for appropriately sized leg or tail muscles and no room for subdermal tissue or fat on the torso. You only need to look at the amount of soft tissue surrounding the skeleton of Psittacosaurus there is, to see how inaccurate this skeletal is.

https://www.geol.umd.edu/~jmerck/nature/specimens/htmls/psittacosaurus74586.html

Well, that's Greg Paul's style for you.   

I agree entirely that these skeletals are, like most, quite minimalist in regards to soft tissue.  The point of my original post was simply to show the skeletal proportions of Silva's figure are mostly good.  And the top down view of his figure certainly suggests greater muscle bulk, thankfully.

[suspsy]

More images of the painted Styracosaurus are now on Facebook. It looks really fantastic!

[LeapingLaelaps]

Man, I CANNOT stop staring at this guy. This has to be one of my favorites of the painted prototypes David's posted so far!