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[Crackington]

Yes the Retro Erasers site and the Toy Wiki are the only sites I could find too. Mike Fredericks old Dinosaur Collectibles book also misses them I'm afraid.

I'm not too sure about a complete list either as there seems to be some variation in the figures, may be due to their long production history, since the early 1960s?

For instance my Pteranodon's head points to the side whereas it looks like the original points forward? I have two Rexs as well which are very similar except one is smaller. Perhaps a sign of mold degeneration?

The later 1982 group you mention could explain this too?

They had some nice detail as figures though, including their other figures like space aliens. You could make a case that the Edaphosaurus and Eryops were the best mass produced versions of the animals before Playvisions and Collecta produced theirs much later.

[Faelrin]

@Crackington Yeah I think they definitely still hold up in a way, like with Marx Toys Moschops (if not MPC's as well). Anyways I suppose I'll just add the ones I'm fully sure about, such as the ones you sent images for, or the others that are really common.

I just noticed the Pteranodon in the images sent looks like the one in this listing with the squiggly tail. The wing texture is different as well. Interesting. I wonder if it could be a recast of Diener, or another brand altogether? I'll omit that one for now, just to be on the safe side, but I know the others are definitely the same. It seems like the original figures are marked as such (like in the one below pic).

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https://www.ebay.com/itm/394878868980

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Some other examples with the names marked on them:

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https://www.ebay.com/itm/125928929136

Pteranodon:



Dimetrodon:



Tyrannosaurus:






Ankylosaurus:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/113807947843



Triceratops:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/295506956074

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After a bit more research there does seem to be another style of Pteranodon (inaccurate bat wings, head turned to the side), that was in production, clearly marked 1987 Diener, different from the above two. Here's a listing an image:

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https://www.ebay.com/itm/234838260423



And some other pics of the Eryops and Plateosaurus from the same listing showing they are also marked as 1987:

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I might go for this particular listing if it is still up for sale when my new card comes in, as well as another.

I'm curious now, do yours have any markings with the year like the above? I think it might be safe to say Ankylosaurus, Dimetrodon, Pteranodon V.1, Triceratops, Stegosaurus, Tyrannosaurus, are from 1982, and at least Eryops, and Plateosaurus from 1987, as well as that second mold of Pteranodon.

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It looks like Retroerasers even has an image of that second mold of Pteranodon, as well as some others they don't mention on the other page pertaining to them, such as an additional Stegosaurus, etc.

[Crackington]

Good detective work @Faelrin - well done for looking into this.

I took another look at my ones and none of them have the Diener logo on them or any writing at all.

I can think of three possibilities- 1) that they are knock offs 2)Diener sold their molds later on and someone else produced them without logos (perhaps outside the USA?) or 3)the company first produced them in the early 1960s, so mine are actually older versions? This could be disproved if those earlier Dieners had the logo on them.

Mold wise, my Edaphosaurus, Eryops, Smilodon, Brontosaurus (sadly unusable as someone has rubbed its head away!) and the T-Rex look like these photos above, lack of logo aside. I think you could use them on the site,at least until we get photos of Diener branded erasers.

However, there appears to be some differences with the Plateosaurus, Stegosaurus and the Pteranodon, so agree leave them off unless we hear from other members that they are the real deal after all.

Wonder if we'll be able to ever add that "Unbranded" category, they could go in there.

Lastly a callout to fellow Forum-ites! Does anyone know any more about the Deiners?

[Faelrin]

So I got the Cyberzoic Dryptosaurus set added now. $6k away from being funded. I'll add pics once a gallery with them is up.

[Faelrin]

Really tired today, and therefore don't have much energy, but I did add some of the new 2024 Mattel figures (2 Hammond Collection, and new minis), the 2 new PNSO figures, and the Cyberzoic Dilophosaurus, since it is nearly at its funding goal/unlocked now (edit: still need to add the sculptor, package art artist, and coloration info, like with the other figures at some point. Too tired to bother with digging for that info atm though).

[Chasmosaurus]

Thank you

[Faelrin]

Added the remaining Cyberzoic stretch goals (including Utahraptor, which is about $15k from being funded), and updated a few of the other Cyberzoic figures with info missing (Dilophosaurus, Arctic Dragon, etc).

[Sim]

I have some suggestions:

1. Remove the CollectA window boxes.  The figures they contain are identical to the regular releases.  They make it a pain to go through the CollectA figures on the dinotoycollector site because there's frequently these window boxes without images that interrupt scrolling through CollectA's figures.  They also waste time as what people are interested in, the figure, is identical to the preceding entry and you're just being forced to see the same figure again.  Battat figures also sometimes came in window boxes but they aren't listed, so why should CollectA's be listed?

2. There's inconsistency with CollectA's mini figures.  Only some are listed individually, others are only listed in their mini set.  One or the other would be good!  Also, some of the CollectA mini figure sets are listed twice, first starting with "Mini" and secondly starting with "Various".  It would make sense for there to only be one entry for each.

[Faelrin]

@Sim Thanks for the suggestions. Honestly I agree about the unnecessary window boxes. I've been annoyed by those for a while too. I'll probably go about updating the CollectA stuff once the new reveals from them start. Hopefully by then I'll have more energy to work on this as it is, as my chronic depression has been leaving me drained of energy and severe lack of interest in doing anything.

As far as the minis go, I think I'll need to add whatever individual ones are missing, which is how it was done for Safari Ltd, and how I did it for most of the Mattel ones, although those in recent years I've neglected to add individuals (still behind on adding the 2019 metallic figures, and the 2021 Dino Escape wave as well), just in case folks don't have a complete set or don't want one (like in the case where my Safari Ltd Prehistoric croc toob was missing the Euparkaria).

I still have to update the Schleich section (including which year figures were retired by checking the catalogues, which I have a few more years to go, but because of my depression I've been burnt out on finishing for a bit now), finish adding the 2023 Takara Tomy stuff, add and even more I'm behind on over the year(s).

Today I have just enough energy to get some of the recent unlocks for the Cyberzoic stuff added, and I suppose I should get up the Dilophosaurus pairs from Haolonggood too.

[Sim]

I'm sorry you're having a tough time @Faelrin.  I hope things get better for you.  Did your Prehistoric crocodiles toob come without a Euparkeria, or a Postosuchus?  I know Safari changed this toob with the newer version coming without the Postosuchus.  I'm glad to hear I wasn't the only one bothered by those CollectA window boxes!

A few more suggestions:

1. I think it would be good to have the BotM dromaeosaurid nestlings be put in alphabetical order with the other Creative Beast figures, rather than at the start of the Creative Beast figure list.  After all, there is a dragon and humans in the list and even armour, and they are all in alphabetical order.  I've always found it weird the Creative Beast section starts with those baby dromaeosaurids.

2. The BotM Eastern and Western sets only list one of the theropod figures they contain in their titles.  I think they should be changed to list both theropods they contain.

3. The BotM glow in the dark set should be changed to list all three animals it contains in its title, and should have Psittacosaurus added to its labels.

[Faelrin]

@Sim I agree with you on the nestlings, something I've been wanting to update as well. Problem is they weren't assigned a particular genus, and since they don't have anything in the species box, it's why they show up at the top by default. I'm wondering how they could be sorted. Should I list them as "Other" like I've been doing with the Cyberzoic armors?

Regarding points B, both of the theropods are there under the species or genus boxes in the database for both sets (checked right now), but due to the way the site works, only the first most one is the one that has its name show up. Even if I changed the name to include them, it would still be listed as "Buitreraptor - Western Pack (Buitreraptor & Stenonychosaurus)" for example. The other option would be to change the first species or genera box to have "Various" in it, but that leads to another problem, see below for more info. Perhaps @DinoToyCollector could change this in the future, so that if there is more then one animal/name in those species or genus boxes (Art 1, Art 2, Art 3 in the database editor), all can be included, instead of just the first one.

I have Psittacosaurus included in the third species/genus box for that set in the database editor, but the website doesn't display anything in that third box for some reason. It's something @DinoToyCollector will need to fix, as there's some others out there with all three of these boxes filled out (like many of the Mattel figures, etc), aside from this particular set. It's worth mentioning there is a total three of these boxes, but yeah again only the first two are ever displayed while browsing the website.

Edit: Come to think of it, another problematic thing on the site, is if an animal is listed in either the second (or again the third box which doesn't display anyways), and you click on the species/genus tags, they won't show up in the list it gives you, unless you search for them by genus name in the search bar (but the search is limited, and sometimes doesn't include everything). The tag will only include those filled in the first box. So for example, if you searched Protoceratops by the clicking on the tag, the BotM Glow in the Dark Dinosaur set doesn't show up because Protoceratops was listed second despite being included.

Edit 2: Cyberzoic's latest batch of figures are added now, as well as the two different Haolonggood Dilophosaurus pairs. Still need to add images for a few of them, but I want to do some edits to have both armor forms in the same pic for the Jetraptor, so that will take time. I'll probably go back and revise it for the Allosaurus as well. I think tomorrow I'll finally get around to updating some of the Haolonggood names for some of the older releases since they have been added to Happy Hen Toys for a little bit now, and I'm overdue updating those.

Edit 3: Images for the two recent PNSO figures have been added.

[Sim]

I understand, so those weird things are because of how the website functions or doesn't function.  For the baby dromaeosaurids it would be better if not having a genus put them at the end and it would make more sense too.

Some other comments:

1. The Invicta "Apatosaurus" should be changed to Brontosaurus, it was identified as that on its belly.  I think I mentioned this a while ago as well.

2. The Kaiyodo dinosaurs of Japan therizinosaurid is not a Therizinosaurus, unlike what the dinotoycollector site lists it as.  The DTB review for this figure's set says the leaflet that came with it identifies the figure simply as "Therizinosauridae".  The DTB review says it is based on Japanese therizinosaurid remains.  Japanese therizinosaurid remains have been identified as Paralitherizinosaurus, so maybe the dinotoycollector entry can be updated with this name?

Thanks for what you've done for the site @Faelrin!

[Faelrin]

I have therapy in a few minutes here, but I'll address those after I'm done.

As for the first thing, I agree with that as well, but @Dinontoycollector would need to change that. I think for now I will just have them listed as other (edit: for at least the meantime), to be less of an eyesore for you and me, if not anyone else.

Edit: I think I'll actually get to those tomorrow, but I did add the Cyberzoic Yutyrannus for anyone that wants to go ahead and add it to their wishlist.

[Concavenator]

@Faelrin Thank you for all your work on the site, and I also hope your situation improves.

I have a bit of an odd request. Could the pic of the CollectA Borealopelta be changed? I find it a bit annoying to see the DTC logo there, because it makes it look as if DTC was the figure's manufacturer. I also find it a bit odd to see the figure appear with an in-hand pic when (my impression is that) stock photos are usually the way to go, at least for figures that are readily available in the current market anyways.

[Faelrin]

Haven't had much interest doing stuff for this lately, but I did add the rest of the Cyberzoic figures finally, the CollectA Dearc, and the PNSO Alamosaurus for anyone interested.

[Chasmosaurus]

Haven't had much interest doing stuff for this lately, but I did add the rest of the Cyberzoic figures finally, the CollectA Dearc, and the PNSO Alamosaurus for anyone interested.

Thank you

[Faelrin]

Added the two new Rebor dire wolves up for pre-order. Did a quick photomanip, and merged the pic of the separate heads included, with one of the nice angled full body pics, for both variants.

[Faelrin]

Added the Meng Sinoceratops, and added a pic for the Cyberzoic Carnotaurus.

[Faelrin]

Added the new CollectA Dreadnoughtus and Velociraptor. Going to add Haolonggood's new Megaraptor once they are on the Amazon store.

[Sim]

In the Browse section of the site, there's an image box that doesn't load.  Is that for Meng?