Mattel--New for 2020

[suspsy]

Well, we don't have any skull of Siats at present, but that one looks much more like a carcharodontosaurid as opposed to a neovenatorid. Ah well, it's a great big meat eater, so I'm sure kids will enjoy playing with it, even if they don't all pronounce its name correctly.

[Appalachiosaurus]

What I assume is the official product:
And ohh... no... , who hired Allosaurus (V.1) sculptor again...

Ah, well... Um. Maybe they'll have a repaint down the line that serves the sculpt better? Was my most anticipated figure, but I think the Sinoceratops is still my favorite.

Interesting...I guess.

I said it was not on my list, it still isn't it. Siats is an obscure species that has no place in the Jurassic Park/World universe in my opinion considering other theropods species that could be added.

Jurassic Park has always been home to ridiculously obscure species, Siats is practically an A-lister compared to Callovasaurus and Segisaurus, and they're probably saving fan favorites like Giganotosaurus for something more in line with the Extreme Chompers like Spino and Rex.

[Dinoxels]

Nice to see more obscure species being made for children, though the figure is a little strange.

[Gwangi]

Jurassic Park has always been home to ridiculously obscure species, Siats is practically an A-lister compared to Callovasaurus and Segisaurus, and they're probably saving fan favorites like Giganotosaurus for something more in line with the Extreme Chompers like Spino and Rex.

It's true. I remember when the first Jurassic Park came out and my father told me that I probably won't like it because I won't recognize most of the dinosaurs. I liked it anyway, of course, but that's not the point. Prior to Jurassic Park animals like Gallimimus, Dilophosaurus, and Velociraptor were not household names. Even Metriacanthosaurus has a name drop in there, the book has even more obscure dinosaurs.

Unpopular opinion from the looks of it, I really like this Siats. Hopefully I can get my hands on one.

[ItsTwentyBelow]

Unpopular opinion from the looks of it, I really like this Siats. Hopefully I can get my hands on one.

An unnecessarily unpopular opinion! People have a way of sounding very entitled and at the same time not really knowing what they want from Mattel.

I guess as someone who was super active on an old JP toy forum in the early 2000s (Ingennet), it flabbergasts me that all these awesome new Jurassic reveals get met with so much "pfffft the color is off" or "mehhhh the skull is 2 mm off in this dimension" when I think just by its nature, enjoyment of Jurassic World merchandise requires some suspension of disbelief by someone into paleontology. It just goes with the territory. And we have it sooo good today compared to 2001 when the only thing to get excited for and discuss was the mediocre JPIII line.

We don't fully know how Siats looked, so Mattel played around with it to a reasonable degree. That's ok, I'll happily buy yours

[CityRaptor]

Also something that is not common here, but on some JP fansites, I'v seen: Complaining about the lack of humans despite repeatly being told why that is the case. Last JP Fan I explained that to immediatly started insulting me, calling me an arrogant prick.
Further I  saw a complaint from that same person saying that the upcoming Kenner-colors Gallimimus is a slap in the face to people who customized their Gallimimus in those colors. Same person also called the fact that the Amber Collection has humans, but not the mainline a punch into the face.
And of course there are Hasbro comparisms.

[Mattyonyx]

Interesting...I guess.

I said it was not on my list, it still isn't it. Siats is an obscure species that has no place in the Jurassic Park/World universe in my opinion considering other theropods species that could be added.

The figure itself is fine, but anybody noticed that huge pair of teeth in the botton jaw? The upper jaw even has notches for them! Also they seem to protrude somewhat sideways!

They will, you can see it on the packaging icon.
Between the sculpt and the coloring, I can't help but notice some similarities with the early Indominus Rex Concept Art...

[suspsy]

Also something that is not common here, but on some JP fansites, I'v seen: Complaining about the lack of humans despite repeatly being told why that is the case. Last JP Fan I explained that to immediatly started insulting me, calling me an arrogant prick.
Further I  saw a complaint from that same person saying that the upcoming Kenner-colors Gallimimus is a slap in the face to people who customized their Gallimimus in those colors. Same person also called the fact that the Amber Collection has humans a punch into the face.
And of course there are Hasbro comparisms.

Sounds like that person could use a slap in the face. Although it's nothing surprising. Be it Star Wars, Transformers, or Jurassic Park, there will always be ungrateful members of the fandom.

[Appalachiosaurus]

Unpopular opinion from the looks of it, I really like this Siats. Hopefully I can get my hands on one.

An unnecessarily unpopular opinion! People have a way of sounding very entitled and at the same time not really knowing what they want from Mattel.

I guess as someone who was super active on an old JP toy forum in the early 2000s (Ingennet), it flabbergasts me that all these awesome new Jurassic reveals get met with so much "pfffft the color is off" or "mehhhh the skull is 2 mm off in this dimension" when I think just by its nature, enjoyment of Jurassic World merchandise requires some suspension of disbelief by someone into paleontology. It just goes with the territory. And we have it sooo good today compared to 2001 when the only thing to get excited for and discuss was the mediocre JPIII line.

We don't fully know how Siats looked, so Mattel played around with it to a reasonable degree. That's ok, I'll happily buy yours

While it's a tight race, Mattel is definitely competing with Kenner's first line for the best Jurassic toys ever made (easily beating Hasbro) and at this point I think a lot of us are just spoiled. I'll definitely be picking up the Jurassic World Siats, that alone is a sentence I never expected to type, but I do admit I am a tiny bit disappointed and was hoping for something just slightly better. That's why I suggested a new paint job might serve it better.

[Gwangi]

Unpopular opinion from the looks of it, I really like this Siats. Hopefully I can get my hands on one.

An unnecessarily unpopular opinion! People have a way of sounding very entitled and at the same time not really knowing what they want from Mattel.

I guess as someone who was super active on an old JP toy forum in the early 2000s (Ingennet), it flabbergasts me that all these awesome new Jurassic reveals get met with so much "pfffft the color is off" or "mehhhh the skull is 2 mm off in this dimension" when I think just by its nature, enjoyment of Jurassic World merchandise requires some suspension of disbelief by someone into paleontology. It just goes with the territory. And we have it sooo good today compared to 2001 when the only thing to get excited for and discuss was the mediocre JPIII line.

We don't fully know how Siats looked, so Mattel played around with it to a reasonable degree. That's ok, I'll happily buy yours

It's simple, I collect brands like Safari or CollectA for their accuracy, I collect JP/JW toys because they're fun. These are the best mass market dinosaur action figures we've gotten since the Kenner days. They're 110% meant to be toys which means outlandish paintjobs, fun action features, and a stylized monstrous appearance. If you're not into that (which is fine) then why are you even paying attention to these?

[Blade-of-the-Moon]

Also something that is not common here, but on some JP fansites, I'v seen: Complaining about the lack of humans despite repeatly being told why that is the case. Last JP Fan I explained that to immediatly started insulting me, calling me an arrogant prick.
Further I  saw a complaint from that same person saying that the upcoming Kenner-colors Gallimimus is a slap in the face to people who customized their Gallimimus in those colors. Same person also called the fact that the Amber Collection has humans a punch into the face.
And of course there are Hasbro comparisms.

Sounds like that person could use a slap in the face. Although it's nothing surprising. Be it Star Wars, Transformers, or Jurassic Park, there will always be ungrateful members of the fandom.

Collectors are like that no matter where you go, from Hot Wheels to High end collectibles.

Now I do compare Hasbro still, usually to remind some of these guys just what we should be thankful for not having to deal with still.  Mattel has given us a line on par with Kenner as they promised. I can't ask for more really. Do I want more humans? Sure. Playsets? Absolutely. More dinos? Yes please.  But I'm not going to "lose it" over them or NOT getting them.   

[stargatedalek]

To be fair on Hasbro, I still think JP3 had the best pterosaurs, with Mattel's being decent and Kenner's being one of their definite weak points.

It's kind of a shame we won't ever be seeing any of those older models repainted again, I was generally fine with Hasbro releasing repaints that were well spaced apart in large waves. Especially since it made some rarer sculpts more widely available.

[tanystropheus]

Oh cool, I like that Siats a lot. Why are we complaining about the sculpt? We already had a good idea of how it would look from the silhouette.

I wouldn't doubt that the figures are already in production, and so here we have a leak. Are you guys really hoping that's not how the Siats looks or something?

I don't think that's the case here. It was assumed earlier in the the thread that the Siats is based on the Allosaurus resculpt, which was a mixed bag overall. It was aesthetically leaps beyond its predecessor but also sported some wonky proportions (large head, shallow chest, diminutive tail) that neither quite fits an adult or juvenile mold. Having said this, I don't believe it is based on the Allosaurus because the legs appear to be far more stable on the Siats. The arms are also rather chonky.

[Faelrin]

@CityRaptor I've definitely seen a lot of complaining or asking about the lack of humans, vehicles, and playsets. Despite being a JP fan myself, I'm still mainly interested in collecting the creatures, film canon or not, though I do have a few of the vehicles (mostly when they went on sale), and most of the humans so far. Only a few I really hope to see down the line such as the Ford Explorer, and Nedry, and some characters from TLW, but that's it. I do think playsets would be nice to see, particularly for next year's line up, and do feel they are lacking, but there's always what Kenner and Schleich has done (though I do understand they can also be expensive and hard to come by depending on how old they are). Mattel definitely isn't afraid to do them, if their MotU line is anything to go by, so it might just be a matter of time.

Also it is a shame you encountered someone like that. To add to what @suspsy said (btw congrats on reaching over 6,000 posts), they don't only sound ungrateful, but toxic too (and unfortunately there are others out there like them, but hopefully only a vocal minority). In regards to their remark about the Kenner styled Gallimimus, most folks I have seen have been excited about it, and not only that, but many folks just can't do repaints for whatever reason so this is certainly nice for those, so they are likely alone (or in the minority) for thinking that.

@Gwangi That's pretty much the main reason I collect both these and the Safari Ltd, etc. I go those brands to fulfill my desire for scientifically accurate models (and to be honest being on the forum here for some time helped warm me up to them, their accuracy aside, as I typically prefer figures with articulation as it is what I grew up with, and those are typically static), where as I collect these (aside from being a JP fan) because they are fun figures because of the gimmicks and/or articulation. It also helps make up for or even downright replace the many I had and was separated from as a child after they ended up in my parents storage units and lost (though I did recently reunite with the JPIII Raptor Attack playset at least). My nieces who fall into their main demographic for these anyways also enjoy playing with them when I bring some when I go over to their house on weekends. There really isn't anything else on the market quite like them either right now, that is similar to their quality or design (mostly), price point, and having a sense of consistent scale (again mostly).


In regards to the Siats, my initial reaction was a neutral one. I don't dislike it (typical proportion issues aside that figures in this line generally suffer from, but I know 10 year old me would have been all over this for its "coolness" factor because of the scutes, etc), and considering that the remains for this animal are so scant as it is (and particularly no skull has been found yet), I don't see the harm in them taking some creative liberties for it. I do however feel as if the color scheme is a bit too similar to the BaBR Allosaurus. The sculpt definitely would be interesting to see repainted some day, either from Mattel itself, or from fans, as it definitely packs a lot of detail on it though.

@suspy To be honest I don't even know how I should be pronouncing it either, as if I had to guess pronouncing it like See-ats or Sigh-ats is incorrect?

[suspsy]

It's pronounced SEE-otts.

[Faelrin]

@suspsy Thank you very much. I would have never guessed that.

[austrosaurus]

Oh it's...not good from an accuracy standpoint, but that's just how it is with Jurassic Park merchandise. As an action figure I think I like it, I'm not super sold on the design but I think if I saw it in person I'd come around.

[Blade-of-the-Moon]

To be fair on Hasbro, I still think JP3 had the best pterosaurs, with Mattel's being decent and Kenner's being one of their definite weak points.

It's kind of a shame we won't ever be seeing any of those older models repainted again, I was generally fine with Hasbro releasing repaints that were well spaced apart in large waves. Especially since it made some rarer sculpts more widely available.

That I will give them, the Alpha Pteranodon especially, is a beautiful piece. I think it was a direct scan of the maquette...shame it wasn't used in the movie.

[Appalachiosaurus]

It's pronounced SEE-otts.

Close, it's See-Ahts

https://youtu.be/QiSl4inY6ZA

-Straight from one of the discoverer's mouth

[ItsTwentyBelow]

To be fair on Hasbro, I still think JP3 had the best pterosaurs, with Mattel's being decent and Kenner's being one of their definite weak points.

It's kind of a shame we won't ever be seeing any of those older models repainted again, I was generally fine with Hasbro releasing repaints that were well spaced apart in large waves. Especially since it made some rarer sculpts more widely available.

I actually do remember liking my JP3 Pteranodon quite a bit, and the thrill at finding the Tapejara in store because of rumors at the time that it may have been canceled. But that aside, the line was painfully mediocre to me. Species diversity was limited to:

Spinosaurus
T. rex
Velociraptor
Triceratops
Brachiosaurus
Pteranodon
Tapejara
Compsognathus (with Grant v2)

And that was it! Only the pterosaurs and raptors were in scale with the humans unless you count the toothless animatronic Spinosaurus (which I remember wanting...but not that much). Brachiosaurus was the same size as Velociraptor. Every single dinosaur had an ugly permanent wound in the side which was also a very breakable button for sound.

Who the heck was that scuba diver dude supposed to be? That they released him and not any of the human characters who were actually eaten, OR the Kirbys, was just nonsense.

Looking back that Brach was of course a highlight but only out of desperation for one. Those molds can stay in the vault; everything we're getting now is strictly better in my opinion.