Mattel--New for 2020

[PumperKrickel]

You know there are actually collectors in the FB JP groups complaining it's too much to release and Mattel needs to slow down? I mean..really?
16 or so new species, Spread out over a year is 4 per quarter, add in repaints and the oddity like a Colossal or other figure type, you may have 8 figures every 4 months?  Let's max out the cost and say  a 100.00 for them. That's a 100.00 in four months, about 25.00 a month and they say it's "too much "? oi vey

That assumes easy availability though. If I´d try to get all new releases I´d have to import some figures, which would drastically raise the prices.

[Flaffy]

The Mattel Sinoceratops colour scheme feels like it was inspired from the Alphine skin in JWE.

[Brontozaurus]

You know there are actually collectors in the FB JP groups complaining it's too much to release and Mattel needs to slow down? I mean..really?
16 or so new species, Spread out over a year is 4 per quarter, add in repaints and the oddity like a Colossal or other figure type, you may have 8 figures every 4 months?  Let's max out the cost and say  a 100.00 for them. That's a 100.00 in four months, about 25.00 a month and they say it's "too much "? oi vey

That assumes easy availability though. If I´d try to get all new releases I´d have to import some figures, which would drastically raise the prices.

Pretty much my situation too. Australia gets like the first two waves and then zip. The new stuff has been trickling in (Savage Strikes have been a very welcome surprise) but I'm not going to get excited for stuff I can't guarantee I'll be able to buy in store.

[Kotori_Sonoda]

Man I'm still waiting on the first wave of Primal Attack here in the Philippines.
Love the new stuff we've seen here though!
Spent most of my day taking in Hasbro's Transformer reveals but now I've looked through the JW stuff that's going to be released and I like the Majungasaurus a lot. The Scutosaurus looks cool too.
The colors on the redecoes look fine too for the most part, and I want that new Dilo. While I like my purple Dilo that new frill gimmick is much more fun.

[Faelrin]

@Blade-of-the-Moon I guess it kind of did turn out that way huh? I wouldn't be opposed to having one of those though, or Homolocephale/Prenocephale (because JPOG and now JWE) either. Still I'm really impressed with all what has been revealed so far, and still can't believe there's still more to come.

But as much as I am excited about all of these new releases, I think I can also understand where folks are coming about wanting it to slow down, especially if distribution issues are a concern (and there certainly has been at times), among other reasons like personal financial ones, or maybe just wanting to take a break and focus on other brands without having to worry about getting behind on figures that might be scalped on the after market, especially combined with the short shelf life (just take a look at the absurd prices the Savage Strike Dimetrodon is going for now as an example, because of its rather limited distribution), when compared to the likes of Safari Ltd, Papo, CollectA, Schleich, etc. I actually expressed something of this nature to @Halichoeres , in his collection thread recently. It's mainly why I have been prioritizing buying this brand's figures mainly, and putting others on the side despite how much I may desire them (especially because I can often only afford so much here and there typically, unless one of my dad's bonuses from work comes in). Thankfully with all the repaints coming later that I'm not particularly interested in getting, I can at least pass those up and save some money for something else. I think next year if we'll be seeing many retools of existing species I can probably save money by passing up those too, unless they have improved on issues I had on the original sculpts (both Allosaurus figures in particular for example, but I'm good on Blue, Pteranodon, Triceratops, etc).


@Flaffy I was honestly starting to think the same, and it also reminds me of the Jungle skin it has too. And if I'm being honest, I do quite like that skin in the game (in fact I've love to see some repaints based on the skins in JW Evolution, although the new Ceratosaurus repaint does remind me of the Savannah skin the Ceratosaurus had in that game). I also think they may have been going for the coloration it appears to have (probably because of the lighting, ash, etc) in the scene where it fights the Carnotaurus. It does appear a bit more blue-green-grey there (and the Carnotaurus coloration certainly looks a bit more like the 2018 figure here too, then it did in the render which the new Control N Conquer resembles more with the orangish coloration it has. I can't believe I'm only realizing this now though).



Though I do also wonder if it is none of those things and they just gave it the coloration it has to differentiate it from the 2018 figure (despite the sculpt being based off Pachyrhinosaurus anyways), which certainly derived its coloration from the render of Sinoceratops likely. I did ask Collect Jurassic on instagram about it as well.

Also I did ask him earlier about the figure many of us suspected was Delta, and it is after all. The Scutosaurus is actually a Savage Strike figure too (no idea what the action feature it has though, but hopefully we get to see what it is in action before Toy Fair is over with).


Also I don't believe I shared Collect Jurassic's video of the reveals today/yesterday (depending on timezone), so here it is just in case:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5m_F1QYcBjs&t=0s

[suspsy]

I've started adding more images to the OP.

[Blade-of-the-Moon]

You know there are actually collectors in the FB JP groups complaining it's too much to release and Mattel needs to slow down? I mean..really?
16 or so new species, Spread out over a year is 4 per quarter, add in repaints and the oddity like a Colossal or other figure type, you may have 8 figures every 4 months?  Let's max out the cost and say  a 100.00 for them. That's a 100.00 in four months, about 25.00 a month and they say it's "too much "? oi vey

That assumes easy availability though. If I´d try to get all new releases I´d have to import some figures, which would drastically raise the prices.

Pretty much my situation too. Australia gets like the first two waves and then zip. The new stuff has been trickling in (Savage Strikes have been a very welcome surprise) but I'm not going to get excited for stuff I can't guarantee I'll be able to buy in store.

@Blade-of-the-Moon

But as much as I am excited about all of these new releases, I think I can also understand where folks are coming about wanting it to slow down, especially if distribution issues are a concern (and there certainly has been at times), among other reasons like personal financial ones, or maybe just wanting to take a break and focus on other brands without having to worry about getting behind on figures that might be scalped on the after market, especially combined with the short shelf life (just take a look at the absurd prices the Savage Strike Dimetrodon is going for now as an example, because of its rather limited distribution), when compared to the likes of Safari Ltd, Papo, CollectA, Schleich, etc. I actually expressed something of this nature to @Halichoeres , in his collection thread recently. It's mainly why I have been prioritizing buying this brand's figures mainly, and putting others on the side despite how much I may desire them (especially because I can often only afford so much here and there typically, unless one of my dad's bonuses from work comes in). Thankfully with all the repaints coming later that I'm not particularly interested in getting, I can at least pass those up and save some money for something else. I think next year if we'll be seeing many retools of existing species I can probably save money by passing up those too, unless they have improved on issues I had on the original sculpts (both Allosaurus figures in particular for example, but I'm good on Blue, Pteranodon, Triceratops, etc).

I feel like I'm missing something and I apologize ahead of time if I'm misreading anything. Everyone has individual situations, age, job issues, pay amounts, ect. to consider and can add factors to collecting.  There are figures we haven't received in the U.S. either ( Canada/South America has some I would have liked ) all it does it make them more collectible though?  Rarity is a good thing in a collector market to an extent..or it was when I was a kid.  Not just with this line but other toys and collectibles, things would appear in books and magazines that only showed up overseas and that was the only way we knew they even existed.  Better a plethora of them are made even in another country, with the market so world wide now it makes them much easier to get even if it costs a few bucks more for shipping.    I love the feeling of finding something in a store, the hunt is usually better than having it. But I've had to preorder and buy online a lot this past year because the local stores, really just walmart and Target are limited in what they get or slow to restock if they do. One out of my two walmarts just removed their JW section altogether.   I don't do repaints unless they are a lot better than what I have..which normally doesn't happen.    I can't see how limiting the number of releases is a good thing? Unless maybe you are a completionist in which case you probably have already spent a LOT on repaints and have shelf space issues but being a completionist you usually have considered this ahead of time?

[Faelrin]

I'm a completionist for new species only (only a few so far I would be fine with out but got them because they were cheap and easy to find), and I get the occasional repaint or retool if I feel I really need to have it (such as this new Dilophosaurus, or these new accurate raptor squad Savage Strike repaints). I get cutting down on releases isn't good for business but honestly my biggest issue really is just the short shelf life and distribution problems because of the scalpers and the insane inflated prices on the after market for something that just recently came out. It can get hard to keep up with it all and feel overwhelming because of these issues. As much as I am excited for these new figures shown at Toy Fair I am also concerned about distribution issues already, because of the issues I faced last year with this line (particularly as stores are cutting down on their selection, combined with being backed up on old stock). I've often had to shell out for far more then retail price, mostly because of international shipping, but also currency rates, just to avoid being stuck with scalper prices later on, especially if distribution was bad. Thankfully I was in the right situation to afford those, because if not the reality would be that I would need to miss out which would be frustrating and/or disappointing, but I certainly can understand there have been folks that missed out for not being able to afford it or perhaps being late to start collecting any of this, and they aren't as lucky as me then.

To add I've never personally been a fan of rarity, artificial or otherwise. It just adds unnecessary (and often frustrating) hoops to get something (though that isn't to say I regret the friendships I've made along the way because of it all because of finding myself dealing with these kind of things). I understand the joy of the hunt of finding something rare in stores (but maybe it is just me but I often feel a bit guilty too in case in means another collector ir kid could miss out because I was earlier then them. It just feel unfair to me), but well in my case with my stores its led to more disappointment and wasted time so I'm usually left resorting to Amazon because who knows if or when they will otherwise carry it in stock, which also does strip the fun out of it (for me anyways), to some extant.

[MLMjp]

In my opinion exclusives, rarity and distribution issues are most of the time bad for collectors. Im no completist and honestly I think that those who are have a problem. Unless you are rich you are going to expend a lot of money you could use in other things and if a regular collector is already worried on missing out a thing, a completist must have anxiety attacks when he/she can't get everything he/she wants. I just go for whatever I like or that I feel I need to get, sometimes it might be the whole collection, most of the time I won't.

Going back to the exclusives, rarity and distribution issues. @Blade-of-the-Moon I do have to agree that there is a charm in the feeling of joy when you find or own something rare but at the same time I can't helps but thinking: next time I won't be that lucky and I won't get that. We are talking about collectibles, which are in essence, toys. It´s not like this is a luxury product that we can't get because we don't have the money, it is just the fact that it is rare, an exclusive or has a poor distribution for whatever reasons.

In my opinion good exclusive figures are the ones who are figures that are available to everybody but with an added bonus, something extra that makes them special and serves as an incentive to try to buy them. BUT when you really think about it, you don't really need that extra stuff. You don't loose anything if you miss that exclusive.

In my opinion these issues discourage collectors. I got all the species that Mattel released in their 2018, and only a few repaints, because again, I am no completist. I intended to get all the new species form the 2019 line just like @Faelrin, but the rarity and bad distribution has made me question my quest, best example is the Coelurus, never ever found one and online they go for more than 30€. I don't feel this particular figure is worth that much.

To make things worse, thanks to forum member Jetoar I know that I might find the Coelurus if I go to a specific Hypermarket, but most of them are in the outskirts of the city and I don't have I car or driving license, and asking friends or family is out of the question. I can use public transport, but it takes time and honesly making those long voyages hoping that I find ONE specific figure feels redundant. I have done hunting trips like those before, but at least I had other things that I was looking for.

And with the 2020 line, I´m definitely not getting all the species, although that's more of my criteria for Mattel figures right now which is: It is part of the Jurassic canon? Would I liked to have one as a child? It appeared books, films or documentaries when I was a child? Is a mesozoic creature?  Of course I made some exceptions, We didn't know about Concavenator back then and Dimetrodon its not from the mesozoic, but its a very iconic creature so I decided to go for it. Based on that criteria, species like Siats or Scutosaurus are not in my list. Also if I dislike how the figure turns out I also don't get it even if I was interested.

[Dilopho]

Am I seeing things, or does the new T. rex have a different head sculpt? The eyes look bigger to me, and the crest above them seem rounded.

[austrosaurus]

PNSO did make a mini Alioramus, and depending on if Qianzhou gets lumped into Alioramus, then another PNSO and Safari ltd figure of the genus is added into the mix.

I don't see any reason why Qianzhousaurus would get lumped into Alioramus by anyone except for Greg Paul, who has probably lumped them both into Tyrannosaurus along with half the known tyrannosaur genera by now.
In any case, I will amend my statement to "best Alioramus figure readily available on the Western market".

[Blade-of-the-Moon]

In my opinion exclusives, rarity and distribution issues are most of the time bad for collectors. Im no completist and honestly I think that those who are have a problem. Unless you are rich you are going to expend a lot of money you could use in other things and if a regular collector is already worried on missing out a thing, a completist must have anxiety attacks when he/she can't get everything he/she wants. I just go for whatever I like or that I feel I need to get, sometimes it might be the whole collection, most of the time I won't.

Going back to the exclusives, rarity and distribution issues. @Blade-of-the-Moon I do have to agree that there is a charm in the feeling of joy when you find or own something rare but at the same time I can't helps but thinking: next time I won't be that lucky and I won't get that. We are talking about collectibles, which are in essence, toys. It´s not like this is a luxury product that we can't get because we don't have the money, it is just the fact that is I rare, an exclusive or has a poor distribution for whatever reasons.

In my opinion good exclusive figures are the ones who are figures that are available to everybody but with an added bonus, something extra that makes them special and serves as an incentive to try to buy them. BUT when you really think about it, you don't really need that extra stuff. You don't loose anything if you miss that exclusive.

In my opinion these issues discourage collectors. I got all the species that Mattel released in their 2018, and only a few repaints, because again, I am no completist. I intended to get all the new species form the 2019 line just like @Faelrin, but the rarity and bad distribution has made me question my quest, best example is the Coelurus, never ever found one and online they go for more than 30€. I don't feel this particular figure is worth that much.

To make things worse, thanks to forum member Jetoar I know that I might find the Coelurus if I go to a specific Hypermarket, but most of them are in the outskirts of the city and I don't have I car or driving license, and asking friends or family is out of the question. I can use public transport, but it takes time and honesly making those long voyages hoping that I find ONE specific figure feels redundant. I have done hunting trips like those before, but at least I had other things that I was looking for.

And with the 2020 line, I´m definitely not getting all the species, although that's more of my criteria for Mattel figures right now which is: It is part of the Jurassic canon? Would I liked to have one as a child? It appeared books, films or documentaries when I was a child? Is a mesozoic creature?  Of course I made some exceptions, We didn't know about Concavenator back then and Dimetrodon its not from the mesozoic, but its a very iconic creature so I decided to go for it. Based on that criteria, species like Siats or Scutosaurus are not in my list. Also if I dislike how the figure turns out I also don't get it even if I was interested.

In my day collecting cards was a big thing as kids, we traded and swapped them..if you were lucky enough to get something rare you could trade it for whatever you liked. It was special and made you feel good for a time.  Then kids would buy more and more to try and get one.

I think I saw the Coelurus twice? Of course I bought one on ebay for 15.00 because  I couldnt get to Target ( I also don't drive ) the only store that had them..but when I did I ran it across it twice.  Would have been happy to pick one up for another collector. 

Seeing how many repaints we get, if you can settle for diff paint no species will be that rare.

I do understand the distribution is rough, but that's where collectors can assist each other. If my store has plenty of Battle Damage Spinos and yours has the Lockwood Manor playset, then let's trade.

Scalper's are a HUGE problem and the only to avoid them is for everyone to quit paying what they ask.

Am I seeing things, or does the new T. rex have a different head sculpt? The eyes look bigger to me, and the crest above them seem rounded.

Yeah it's either all new of they just increased the area around the eye for "more character" probably like that in the Camp Cretaceous series.

[tanystropheus]

Great sculpts. Tacky paint jobs as usual. Glad to see a version of the Dilo that I find appealing/accessible!

More sauropods please! I am ready for the Apato or Mamenchi.

At the moment, we have 3 drastically different sizes. Deluxe (Brachiosaurus), Medium (Amarga) and Small (Musa).

Also, some more Kenner species!

Also, it would be nice if they made the mountain-view diorama purchasable...

[suspsy]

Okay, I've rearranged the list in the OP a bit.

[Flaffy]

What I assume is the official product:
And ohh... no... , who hired Allosaurus (V.1) sculptor again...

[Killekor]

Thanks for the photo Flaffy!

Wow... the Siats surely looks cool. It's the classic screaming theropod, but I like it a lot! Also the color scheme is striking! It reminds me of the Simba predators T-Rex.

Killekor

[Faelrin]

@Flaffy Where did you find that Siats pic at?

At least we have an idea of what this one looks like now since it wasn't at Toy Fair. It's uh interesting I guess.

[Flaffy]

@Flaffy Where did you find that Siats pic at?

Found it on instagram, though no one seems to know the source so far.

[MLMjp]

Interesting...I guess.

I said it was not on my list, it still isn't it. Siats is an obscure species that has no place in the Jurassic Park/World universe in my opinion considering other theropods species that could be added.

The figure itself is fine, but anybody noticed that huge pair of teeth in the botton jaw? The upper jaw even has notches for them! Also they seem to protrude somewhat sideways!

[ItsTwentyBelow]

Oh cool, I like that Siats a lot. Why are we complaining about the sculpt? We already had a good idea of how it would look from the silhouette.

I wouldn't doubt that the figures are already in production, and so here we have a leak. Are you guys really hoping that's not how the Siats looks or something?

I'm happy. Looks like a beast! People are funny. Really, who wouldn't be happy with that for a Jurassic World action figure?