New probable allosauroid from Argentina

[Jose S.M.]

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-019-53672-7?fbclid=I

Have you people seen this? Just in time for CollectA to make one for next year!

[Concavenator]

Very cool discovery! Its skull reminds me of Acrocanthosaurus'

[Appalachiosaurus]

I'm more interested in the papers claim that Megalosaurs are now Carnosaurs. Apparently Spinosaurus is closer related to Allosaurus than we thought.

[HD-man]

I'm more interested in the papers claim that Megalosaurs are now Carnosaurs.

Me too!

[stargatedalek]

Potentially a very important animal, shame the paper is largely unusable as a reference point.

They only used one Ceratosaur, barely any Coelurosaurs, and just outright assumed Spinosaurs weren't Megalosauroids and used that in backing their calculations that claim to find this new animal as a basal Carnosaur. They are claiming it's more basal than Metricanthosaurids based on this flimsy sample group.

Either Allosauroids as a whole are a lot more basal than previously thought, or the papers shoddy methodologies impacted their placement results.

[Faelrin]

Certainly a very interesting looking theropod (at least in regards to the skull, and even the hands). While not complete, that's still a good portion of it discovered too. It would certainly be cool to have a figure of this one made eventually.

[austrosaurus]

Potentially a very important animal, shame the paper is largely unusable as a reference point.

They only used one Ceratosaur, barely any Coelurosaurs, and just outright assumed Spinosaurs weren't Megalosauroids and used that in backing their calculations that claim to find this new animal as a basal Carnosaur. They are claiming it's more basal than Metricanthosaurids based on this flimsy sample group.

Either Allosauroids as a whole are a lot more basal than previously thought, or the papers shoddy methodologies impacted their placement results.

Definitely agree that while the description of the animal itself is fine, the cladistic analysis is practically worthless.

[Coelophysis]

Potentially a very important animal, shame the paper is largely unusable as a reference point.

They only used one Ceratosaur, barely any Coelurosaurs, and just outright assumed Spinosaurs weren't Megalosauroids and used that in backing their calculations that claim to find this new animal as a basal Carnosaur. They are claiming it's more basal than Metricanthosaurids based on this flimsy sample group.

Either Allosauroids as a whole are a lot more basal than previously thought, or the papers shoddy methodologies impacted their placement results.

Definitely agree that while the description of the animal itself is fine, the cladistic analysis is practically worthless.

For what it's worth, Andrea Cau has added Asfaltovenator to his theropod megamatrix and recovered more or less the same results as the paper. The database in the paper is pretty bad but Cau's is enormous and includes more characters than almost any other theropod matrix I know of.