JURASSIC PARK III's problems

[GojiraGuy1954]

Another reason JP3 is the worst film of them all: it contributes absolutely nothing to the overall story. Jurassic Park started everything, The Lost World revealed the secret to the world, and Jurassic World and Fallen Kingdom have continued to build on that. But you could erase JP3 from existence completely and nothing and no one would be lesser for it.

It was a wholly pointless film.

I think the issue was that JW followed up on nothing that it set up. By the time of JW, there should be many Pteranodons on the mainland, but they just ignore it

[KeU]

I think the issue was that JW followed up on nothing that it set up. By the time of JW, there should be many Pteranodons on the mainland, but they just ignore it

Wasn't ignored.
You just need to know where to look.
Granted it was buried under layers of marketing.
http://www.masraniglobal.com/about/divisions/ingen/security/index.html

[GojiraGuy1954]

I think the issue was that JW followed up on nothing that it set up. By the time of JW, there should be many Pteranodons on the mainland, but they just ignore it

Wasn't ignored.
You just need to know where to look.
Granted it was buried under layers of marketing.
http://www.masraniglobal.com/about/divisions/ingen/security/index.html

That doesnt even mention Pteranodons

[CityRaptor]

I think the issue was that JW followed up on nothing that it set up. By the time of JW, there should be many Pteranodons on the mainland, but they just ignore it

Wasn't ignored.
You just need to know where to look.
Granted it was buried under layers of marketing.
http://www.masraniglobal.com/about/divisions/ingen/security/index.html

That doesnt even mention Pteranodons

If you scroll down to the section titled news, it mentions that Hoskins was involved in "the infamous flying reptile "cleanup" operation over Canada in 2001" and was hired by Masrani due to how professionally he handled that.  So unless there were other flying reptiles in Canada in 2001, those were the Pteranodons.

[HD-man]

Wasn't ignored.
You just need to know where to look.
Granted it was buried under layers of marketing.
http://www.masraniglobal.com/about/divisions/ingen/security/index.html

That reminds of something I said about the JW movies in my "favorite aspects of Camp Cretaceous" thread ( http://dinotoyblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=9658.0 ). Specifically, "I don't like it when filmmakers tell you to watch certain shows in order to understand their seemingly-inconsistent/nonsensical movies: At best, it comes off as lazy; At worst, it's confusing for more casual fans. In this case, it reminds me of Maul's seemingly-mysterious "Solo" cameo ( https://screenrant.com/star-wars-clone-wars-season-7-memes-hilarious/ ), but worse b/c at least "Star Wars" fans had a chance to see Maul in "The Clone Wars" before "Solo". That said, I think CC does an admirable job of explaining the seemingly-inconsistent/nonsensical appearance & behavior of the JW movie animals."

As for JP3, I think RickRaptor105 put it best when he said, "If all you care about are dinosaurs chasing people, you will love [Fallen Kingdom]...but a problem is Jurassic Park used to be about much more than that. The first movie had great characters with great interactions and actual ethical discussions. If you remove Jurassic Park's heart and intelligence, you get Jurassic Park 3. If you add additional stupidity, you get [Fallen Kingdom]" ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5G0OdV8sY0 ). JWFK is definitely more boring than JP3 (I.e. The dioramas in Lockwood's mansion are, to me, the most interesting things in FK), but I'm not sure it's more stupid.

[Bread]

Another reason JP3 is the worst film of them all: it contributes absolutely nothing to the overall story. Jurassic Park started everything, The Lost World revealed the secret to the world, and Jurassic World and Fallen Kingdom have continued to build on that. But you could erase JP3 from existence completely and nothing and no one would be lesser for it.

It was a wholly pointless film.

I think the only contribution JP3 made was the discussion Grant faced during his presentation. Comparison of real dinosaurs (fossils) to Jurassic Park's "monsters" from what I remember.

I actually liked JP3 more than all JW movies. From seeing previous posts, I guess I am not alone.

[Rexy]

I liked the inclusion of the Ceratosaurus, the Pteranodons and the Spinosaurus, I just wish the Ceratosaurus had been given a bit more screen time. Also, I noticed the Pteranodons in the movie appear to have teeth. As far as I'm aware, Pteranodon doesn't have teeth.

[CityRaptor]

Yep, a common complaint. The PteraNOdons are more like PteraYESdons. The females also have large crests one would expect from a male. Probably could be hand waved as another issue due to filler DNA.

You know, the female lead is pretty likable. She wants to save her offspring. As such she teams up with her partner and some other males and is succesful in the end, all while showing off how capable and competent she is.

[Bread]

You know, the female lead is pretty likable. She wants to save her offspring. As such she teams up with her partner and some other males and is succesful in the end, all while showing off how capable and competent she is.

This. I always loved how sophisticated and filled with communication, while still having flaws, the raptors were portrayed in JP3. In my opinion, I felt that JW's raptors were too outlandish (maybe that's not the right word to use but you may still understand my point). I hated the concept of raptors bonding with humans, but that's just my opinion at least. Plus, JP3 improved the raptors as compared to TLW. Probably my least favorite scene in that movie is when Sarah Harding was on the roof, one raptor below, one raptor above, but yet they immediately fight when one comes in the way of the other? Thought that was a weird scene, and just a plot armor move for the film.

[Gwangi]

In TLW book it is explained that the raptors are aggressive with each other because they didn't have a previous generation of raptors to raise and teach them. Perhaps that's why they behave the way they do in TLW movie. I do agree that behavior wise TLW raptors don't seem particularly intelligent.

[Brontozaurus]

I think the issue was that JW followed up on nothing that it set up. By the time of JW, there should be many Pteranodons on the mainland, but they just ignore it

Wasn't ignored.
You just need to know where to look.
Granted it was buried under layers of marketing.
http://www.masraniglobal.com/about/divisions/ingen/security/index.html

That doesnt even mention Pteranodons

If you scroll down to the section titled news, it mentions that Hoskins was involved in "the infamous flying reptile "cleanup" operation over Canada in 2001" and was hired by Masrani due to how professionally he handled that.  So unless there were other flying reptiles in Canada in 2001, those were the Pteranodons.

There was also another marketing thing that showed Dr Wu's notes from before JW, which implied the Spinosaurus was some kind of proto-Indominus experiment.

The only things in JPIII itself I can think of that really add to the overall story are the lab scene and the revelation that Spinosaurus wasn't "on InGen's list", but like the above that only became relevant when JW came out, and didn't lead to anything in JPIII.

[Faelrin]

Just looking at that image, just reminds me of how well some of the effects in that movie aged, even if the raptor in that scene is an animatronic. I feel like the CGI for the raptors and Pteranodon still hold up pretty well after all that time, some of the best in the film. It blows my mind this film is 20 years old, and has scenes that still hold up that well (well I guess that goes for the whole trilogy). I think a lot of that is due to the animation, lighting, etc. That's a stark comparison to how some of the JW films have handled things.

[Bread]

In TLW book it is explained that the raptors are aggressive with each other because they didn't have a previous generation of raptors to raise and teach them. Perhaps that's why they behave the way they do in TLW movie. I do agree that behavior wise TLW raptors don't seem particularly intelligent.

Ahhhh, it has been a while since I've read TLW. Regardless of what the book states though, I will say when comparing the raptors to all the movie franchises, TLW's are rather unintelligent.

[Bread]

I don't mean to bring back an almost two month old thread, but I recently watched all JP/JW movies.

Now I have to say I still agree with my earlier assessment of JP3, which is that its still better than the JW franchise (not including unreleased Dominion).

The problems other members have mentioned are pretty valid.

I do prefer the JP3 Spinosaurus and Tyrannosaurus fight way over the JW fight scene.

Few things I don't think others have mentioned is regarding how Billy survived followed by how he was found. Plus the boat intro scene, thought it was executed badly, followed by how it could have really shown off the Spinosaurus (if I recalling correctly that it was confirmed to be the cause of the boat accident). Imagine how horrifying and cool of a scene would be if the Spinosaurus was snatching off the few people on the boat.

Slightly off topic but here is my list/rank of the films (top to bottom):
JP-TLW
JP1
JP3
JW
JW-FK

Yes the TLW is my favorite, mainly because of the mainland scene, followed by just the increase amount of dinosaurs we got to see. Regardless of the bad acting.

[Kotori_Sonoda]

I enjoyed JPIII in spite of its flaws. Not my favorite of the films but I liked it more than FK.
The boat sequence and Pteranodon cage are also among my favorite scenes in the franchise.

[Reuben03]

what problems

[WalkingWithBeasts]

what problems

Yeah what problems? 

[Crackington]

The toothed pteranodons mentioned earlier?

[Reuben03]

yeah we're mostly kidding around. we both love JP3 despite its flaws because visually and soundtrack wise, its our favourite. the pteranodons concept art was so nice, shame they ruined it!

[Crackington]

Oh I see, but what flaws? Isn't it the Citizen Kane of prehistoric movies?