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CollectA—New for 2020

Started by suspsy, October 31, 2019, 08:45:45 PM

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PrimevalRaptor

The sculpt for Caviramus is really nice and we really need more Triassic guys, especially pterosaurs. The colors don't really do it for me, imo the red could use some pattern or other hue on it and to make it clash less, maybe have the wing membrane in a different color? Cause I feel the head is alright apart from some detail on the crest.

Orthoceras is a cool much needed addition for many people's collection I'm sure (and it can stand in for Cameroceras) though didn't orthcone cephalopods lack suckers? (At least I remember that from the BBC Sea Monsters documentary)

The Diplodocus is alright for a repaint, the colors on the body are a bit nicer but I do miss the (to some people so accursed) "warpaint" on the head.


DragonRider02

#301
The coloration of Caviramus is very 'Christmas'. It also reminds me of watermellon. Or some colorful cocktail.

I think I would prefer the body to be brown or black or gray, but green is quite unique. My only Real complaint is lack of some sort of pattern on the crest! Seriously, even a single white spot would be an improvment.

Anyway, I am still really excited to get the Caviramus. It's on my must-buy list, along with Microraptor, Bajadasaurus, Lisowicia and Fukuisaurus.

suspsy

Quote from: Flaffy on November 29, 2019, 04:16:56 AM
Quote from: suspsy on November 29, 2019, 03:09:07 AM
Quote from: Flaffy on November 29, 2019, 02:22:56 AM
And for the diplodocus... CollectA's laziness is showing. First with the Malayan Tapir, now with one of the most iconic sauropods. Easy pass, very disappointing.

Seriously? They put out all these brand new sculpts and you're going to accuse them of "laziness" just because they did a single repaint? Talk about being totally unfair, especially considering that all the other toy companies regularly release repaints.

Also, it hasn't been confirmed that the Malayan tapir is a repaint.

It's in the exact same pose as the Baird's. And the proportions are off for a Malayan.

That still doesn't confirm that it's a repaint.

QuoteLaziness might be too harsh a word

There's no "might" about it. Especially not when you have seventeen brand new prehistoric sculpts to choose from.

Quotebut it wasn't just because it was a repaint that lead to my statement.
I am fine with repaints, I would greatly appreciate if CollectA went and repainted some of their figures that suffer from lackluster paint jobs (remember their famous war paint?), and I would gladly repurchase such figures provided they have more natural/appealing colour schemes.
But what I am not fine with is when the repaint itself is far blander than the original paint scheme. CollectA could've at least included some patterns on the body or the tail. The colour scheme to me is a bland version of the Brontosaurus, same red throat, biege underside, and swap brown with grey (grey is fine, it's the execution of the colour that's bland).

Just because you don't personally like the new colour scheme is not justification for branding CollectA or any other company as lazy. Not in the slightest. You are absolutely free to dislike this Diplodocus (I'm not interested in buying it myself), but you are absolutely wrong to accuse the artist of being lazy. Same as how I don't like eating sushi, but that doesn't give me grounds to label it a bad food or say that the chefs who make it are lacking skill.

Also, how is this Diplodocus' colour scheme any "lazier" than that of the Safari Apatosaurus or the Papo Brachiosaurus or the PNSO Euhelopus? Sauropods are regularly depicted with bland, elephantine-inspired colours; it's been that way for decades.

QuoteAnd assuming that the Baird's is a repaint (the sculpts look identical), if passing a Baird's sculpt as a Malayan isn't laziness, then I don't know what is.

Again, since you don't know for a fact that it is a repaint, this argument falls flat on its face.
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Faelrin

It is so nice to wake up and see all these new reveals, especially all the invertebrates (going to be a long wait for me to get my hands on them). Sadly they are the last of the bunch.

I also can't help but think of either the holidays or a watermelon with the coloration on the Caviramus.

The trilobite is very easily one of the best made (though considering how few trilobite figures have been made that wasn't a high bar to cross), even if it is another brown one (red may have been a fun choice with the name).

I really dig the Orthoceras. While it might not have been its bigger cousin Cameroceras, fossils of these are relatively common, so this is a nice and often neglected genus to make a figure of. The coloration here reminds me of a creamsicle pop.

I'm very impressed by the Nautilus. It looks very realistic too. I've wanted a figure of one for a long time, and there hasn't been many options of this genus previously either, as the genus Nautilus is one of two that are sadly the last of their kind, of a long lineage (the nautiloids) before the first vertebrates began to dominate the oceans.

Lastly I'm quite fine with the Diplodocus repaint. The coloration certainly reminds me of the WWD one (though that one was more brown then grey). Not bad but clearly not the most impressive release (considering all those invertebrates and some others like the Lisowicia).
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bmathison1972

At first I thought I'd just get the extant arthropods and the trilobite, and maybe the nautilus but the more I think about it, I think I am getting all the inverts!

Flaffy

#305
Quote from: suspsy on November 29, 2019, 01:30:46 PM
Just because you don't personally like the new colour scheme is not justification for branding CollectA or any other company as lazy. Not in the slightest. You are absolutely free to dislike this Diplodocus (I'm not interested in buying it myself), but you are absolutely wrong to accuse the artist of being lazy. Same as how I don't like eating sushi, but that doesn't give me grounds to label it a bad food or say that the chefs who make it are lacking skill.
Point taken, I stand corrected. Laziness is indeed not the correct term to describe something I personally dislike, I should not accuse anyone of being lazy simply due to personal preferences. I will refrain from using such a term the future.

In my personal opinion, the diplodocus repaint has an incredibly boring, dull, uninspired, lackluster, bland, flat, unvaried colour scheme that could be easily made more interesting by adding simple patterns like stripes using a darker shade of grey as seen on the back of the figure. Maybe instead of copying the red throat of their previous sauropod figure, CollectA could've used blue highlights on the throat to make the figure stand out more.
Prehistoric Kingdom's diplodocus strikes me as a fantastic example on how to make "boring" greys look visually interesting:


Quote
Also, how is this Diplodocus' colour scheme any "lazier" than that of the Safari Apatosaurus or the Papo Brachiosaurus or the PNSO Euhelopus? Sauropods are regularly depicted with bland, elephantine-inspired colours; it's been that way for decades.
Personally, I don't find the paint jobs particularly appealing as well. Basing colour schemes solely on large mammals is a particularly uninspired choice.
But them being depicted the same way for decades doesn't mean things can't change. We now know that dinosaurs had better colour vision than mammals, it wouldn't be unrealistic to depict them in brighter, less mammalian colour schemes. Especially when you're that big, there's no real reason to hide.

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Again, since you don't know for a fact that it is a repaint, this argument falls flat on its face.
True, we'll see when the figure comes out.
On another note, it's not hard to come to conclusion that it might be a repaint though. You once came to that conclusion before on the ATF as well.

suspsy

Quote from: Flaffy on November 29, 2019, 02:04:39 PM
Quote from: suspsy on November 29, 2019, 01:30:46 PM
Just because you don't personally like the new colour scheme is not justification for branding CollectA or any other company as lazy. Not in the slightest. You are absolutely free to dislike this Diplodocus (I'm not interested in buying it myself), but you are absolutely wrong to accuse the artist of being lazy. Same as how I don't like eating sushi, but that doesn't give me grounds to label it a bad food or say that the chefs who make it are lacking skill.
Point taken, I stand corrected. Laziness is indeed not the correct term to describe something I personally dislike, I should not accuse anyone of being lazy simply due to personal preferences. I will refrain from using such a term the future.

Your admission is appreciated and respected, thank you.  :) And for the record, I also prefer more vividly coloured sauropods, which is why I'm not bothering with this Diplodocus. Especially since I already own the original version.

Quote
True, we'll see when the figure comes out.
On another note, it's not hard to come to conclusion that it might be a repaint though. You once came to that conclusion before on the ATF as well.

That's true, but then I recalled how certain individuals on the DTF accused CollectA of retooling their Xenoceratops to make the Medusaceratops and the Nasutoceratops back in 2015. Even when the president of the company himself issued a statement saying that they were original moulds, these same individuals refused to believe it. Although they certainly went dead silent once the toys were all shown side by side together!

And that's why I think it's best to wait until someone compares the two tapirs side by side before making a final conclusion. You can only tell so much from a single image.
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Concavenator

I like the Caviramus. The color, despite what everyone is saying, is not too bad in my opinion, I like it. I like it more than this year's Caiuajara. However, I'm not sure I will be getting it because it is pretty big, I'm not sure where I would place it.

Anyways, it looks like it will be a great year for CollectA. Looking forward to seeing real life pics of these!

MLMjp

#308
Now that everything's has been revealed I can confirm that for me, this is Collecta's least interesting year ever.

The only figures that have a place in my collection are the Fukuisaurus and the Badajasaurus, and I am not that excited for them, everything else is just too big, too small or I just don't care about it. Money saved I guess...

stargatedalek

Quote from: Flaffy on November 29, 2019, 04:44:22 AM
Quote from: stargatedalek on November 29, 2019, 04:01:25 AM
but I didn't notice anyone here complaining about the Allosaurus, Mapusaurus, or Saltriovenator, ALL of which use this exact same colourscheme. At least Caviramus does something inherently new and different despite this.

I beg to differ, all 3 theropods don't have large areas of skin where colours are (almost) directly clashing with each other.
The warm colour is regulated to the head of the theropods, and mostly on the crest. The type of warm colour used is also different, Saltrio uses orange, Allo uses red, and Mapu and orangish pink(?).

IMO shades of yellow and orange would've complemented the green body of the Caviramus much better than the current pink.
That was my point, Caviramus is at least creepy (in a cool way, imo). The colours clash in a way that makes it strange. It does something inherently different despite using this same boring colour palette.

The theropods all look really boring and uninteresting. Greens and yellows with red (or off-red orange) highlights on the head/spines. Ooooh-wee, haven't seen that a gazillion times before...


Bokisaurus

Ah, what a great lineup for 2020! Love this creepy Caviramus, what it lacks in colors it more than makes up for it's unusual and striking appearance, it has a lot of character.
All those invertebrates are awesome! I wonder which museum requested these models... they should request more ;D

terrorchicken

the caviramus reminds me of a guava fruit.  O:-)

Duna

Quote from: terrorchicken on November 29, 2019, 08:41:36 PM
the caviramus reminds me of a guava fruit.  O:-)
;D ;D ;D ;D I just thought the same, hahaha! Either way, I don't collect such big figures.
The diplodocus repaint is so boring for me, just like the typical WWD. If only it had some darker limbs, head, a few stripes on the tail, as in the pictures shown before, it would be elegant and classy. Just as Eofauna has done with their Atlasaurus. I really like the old diplo version which I have. In fact, if the 2019 repaint was the older version and the older version was this year's, I would say, WOW, fantastic repaint ...  :D
I'll be getting the Bajadasaurus yes or yes, the pleuroceras (to display with my fossils) and maybe the trilobite (the same). If only they had chosen another color for the trilobite ... it just looks like a fossil. Just with a few brushes of red ... No matters, the sculpture is nice.
The idea of this 2020 inverts is fantastic. For the rest of the inverts, I'm very fine with my Prehistoric Inverts Tube. Very nice figures.

Flaffy

In light of CollectA's willingness to collaborate with museums...
I wonder if CollectA will be open to making museum exclusive / special exhibition exclusive figures, kind of like how Favorite Co. does things.

Maybe we can potentially see some really obscure or very recently discovered species getting represented in toy form for the first time (along with CollectA's usual plethora of obscure species).

Shadowknight1

I was excited about a potential new Allosaurus to add to my collection but...this one does not seem very good.  The crests along the top of the skull look way off and the colors are just so bland.

On the bright side, I don't own a trilobite, so that will be cool!  Always dug trilobite fossils.
I'm excited for REBOR's Acro!  Can't ya tell?

Ravonium

#315
Redlichia is a must buy. The other four this week don't interest me.

Shonisaurus

Quote from: Ravonium on November 30, 2019, 09:11:26 AM
Redlichia and Orthoceras are must buys. The other three this week don't interest me.

Extinct and existing invertebrates (horseshoe crab and nautilus) from Collecta 2020 are much better than invertebrates made by other toy brands. They are a must buy for me and what I like most about these figures, especially the extinct invertebrates of Collecta, is that they are very dynamic figures.

Stegotyranno420

#317
No one is going to talk about this

suspsy

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tanystropheus

I just wished I had more money for CollectA. Maybe one day I will buy all these figures (they are beginning to resemble models and museum pieces) in bulk. Absolutely impressed by their focus on deluxe pieces and non-dinosaur specimens. Sure to make any collector's room appear like a museum of sorts, especially if you have them strategically placed or in glass micro-display cases. Huge improvement in colors, albeit a bit subdued (similar to PNSO), but definitely not gaudy (the main reason I skimped on their Diplo - glad to see it repainted like a professional model). These deluxe pterosaurs are a real treat  :)

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