The Papo Limited Spinosaurus has finally been retired!

[Lynx]

Papo has announced that the limited edition Spinosaurus will now fully retire from their line since its release. After several complaints of the limited Spinosaurus not being very limited, it has finally been withdrawn.

Source: https://blog.everythingdinosaur.com/blog/_archives/2023/01/06/a-papo-model-retirement-2023-part-2.html

[Pachyrhinosaurus]

The Papo ocelot saw a more limited release than the spinosaurus did. I'm not complaining though since it gives everyone who wanted one a chance to get it.

[Blade-of-the-Moon]

How many were actually made? Does anyone know?

[SidB]

Well. that's a signal for those who still want to get one to do so, I suppose.

[Paleo Flo]

A nice Figuren, but it never made it into my collection

[Stegotyranno420]

Wait, so they are retiring it because some guys were upset that the greatest Papo figure is NOT limited? 
That is a bit bizarre to me, but I guess there's more to it

[Lynx]

Wait, so they are retiring it because some guys were upset that the greatest Papo figure is NOT limited? 
That is a bit bizarre to me, but I guess there's more to it

No, that is not the reason.

[GojiraGuy1954]

See you on the other side Spino

[Fembrogon]

For a "limited" figure, it's had a good run; and it's a pretty good toy all things considered. I'd say this was one of Papo's better figures in the last few years.

[Halichoeres]

How many were actually made? Does anyone know?

Too many, evidently.

[Blade-of-the-Moon]

How many were actually made? Does anyone know?

Too many, evidently.

I bought one when it was first released. I had thought it was going to be more limited but I bought it because it was nice. Kinda thought they would continue with the line.

[Over9K]

"Limited" without edition numbering is vague, meaningless marketing on the level of "New & Improved", or "-Rated", especially when we have no concept of what a "non-Limited" production run looks like for Papo, numbers-wise.

What would you think a typical production run is for a Papo dinosaur? 25,000? 15,000? How would a Papo production run compare to a typical REBOR production run? I have numerous items in my collections with edition numbers in the low 1,000's, or even 100's, and they're items many, many other collectors seem to have in their collections, and they don't feel that rare.

I don't think a normal production run is as large as most people think, and I think low-number, limited runs are actually larger than some
people think.

[Newt]

I find artificial scarcity inherently offensive. And when it's only pretend artificial scarcity - even worse. This is the kind of nonsense that plagued comics in the 1990s and nearly tanked the whole industry, with companies trying to exploit both collectors and speculators by generating products whose only value was their supposed rarity. I'm not saying that's going to happen to dinosaur toys - our market is probably not lucrative enough for these shenanigans to take off - but it gives me the willies to see even this mild form of it.

[Blade-of-the-Moon]

I find artificial scarcity inherently offensive. And when it's only pretend artificial scarcity - even worse. This is the kind of nonsense that plagued comics in the 1990s and nearly tanked the whole industry, with companies trying to exploit both collectors and speculators by generating products whose only value was their supposed rarity. I'm not saying that's going to happen to dinosaur toys - our market is probably not lucrative enough for these shenanigans to take off - but it gives me the willies to see even this mild form of it.

Yeah Dinosaur collecting isn't exactly a super competitive collectors market, even the JP/JW stuff is losing value. New collectors are more into what's new ( I blame a lot of YouTube influencers )than appreciating the older figures and finding value in them.  There are some items like those produced by individuals that are so rare there is no hope of collecting them that honestly puts me off too.

[Newt]

I find artificial scarcity inherently offensive. And when it's only pretend artificial scarcity - even worse. This is the kind of nonsense that plagued comics in the 1990s and nearly tanked the whole industry, with companies trying to exploit both collectors and speculators by generating products whose only value was their supposed rarity. I'm not saying that's going to happen to dinosaur toys - our market is probably not lucrative enough for these shenanigans to take off - but it gives me the willies to see even this mild form of it.

Yeah Dinosaur collecting isn't exactly a super competitive collectors market, even the JP/JW stuff is losing value. New collectors are more into what's new ( I blame a lot of YouTube influencers )than appreciating the older figures and finding value in them.  There are some items like those produced by individuals that are so rare there is no hope of collecting them that honestly puts me off too.

I'm doing my part - I just bought an Invicta Megalosaurus for $1 at an antique store. Watch for the value to skyrocket after that sudden surge in demand! 

[Blade-of-the-Moon]

I find artificial scarcity inherently offensive. And when it's only pretend artificial scarcity - even worse. This is the kind of nonsense that plagued comics in the 1990s and nearly tanked the whole industry, with companies trying to exploit both collectors and speculators by generating products whose only value was their supposed rarity. I'm not saying that's going to happen to dinosaur toys - our market is probably not lucrative enough for these shenanigans to take off - but it gives me the willies to see even this mild form of it.

Yeah Dinosaur collecting isn't exactly a super competitive collectors market, even the JP/JW stuff is losing value. New collectors are more into what's new ( I blame a lot of YouTube influencers )than appreciating the older figures and finding value in them.  There are some items like those produced by individuals that are so rare there is no hope of collecting them that honestly puts me off too.

I'm doing my part - I just bought an Invicta Megalosaurus for $1 at an antique store. Watch for the value to skyrocket after that sudden surge in demand! 

We just about another 1000 of us fighting over the most mint condition ones lol

[GojiraGuy1954]

I find artificial scarcity inherently offensive. And when it's only pretend artificial scarcity - even worse. This is the kind of nonsense that plagued comics in the 1990s and nearly tanked the whole industry, with companies trying to exploit both collectors and speculators by generating products whose only value was their supposed rarity. I'm not saying that's going to happen to dinosaur toys - our market is probably not lucrative enough for these shenanigans to take off - but it gives me the willies to see even this mild form of it.

Yeah Dinosaur collecting isn't exactly a super competitive collectors market, even the JP/JW stuff is losing value. New collectors are more into what's new ( I blame a lot of YouTube influencers )than appreciating the older figures and finding value in them.  There are some items like those produced by individuals that are so rare there is no hope of collecting them that honestly puts me off too.

I'm doing my part - I just bought an Invicta Megalosaurus for $1 at an antique store. Watch for the value to skyrocket after that sudden surge in demand! 

We just about another 1000 of us fighting over the most mint condition ones lol

Me who got an almost complete set of invictas for free

[Halichoeres]

Isn't artificial scarcity the entire business model of Rebor and Nanmu? I'd say the same for Mattel's SDCC exclusives, for example.

[CityRaptor]

Most companies are guilty of this.
Schleich example? Their golden Tyrannosaurs.

Speaking of schleich: Their "Exclusive" red Tyrannosaurus has been around for 9 years and is not exclusive at all.

Another example: Kenner advertised the cards coming with their JP figures as Limited Edition. The only reason why those are uncommon today is because most kids apparently did not care about them, given the large amount of JP figures offered without them.

[EmperorDinobot]

Aww, I don't even have one.