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[Manospundylus gigas]

Do you think that the brown version looks more like their yellow Apatosaurus or has it a more orange/almost red colour?

I can't quite figureout, if the blue variant has the same blue as their blue Mamenchisaurus. In the shots with the other sauropods and the child it seems to be elephant grey and on the beach-pics it seems top be more bluey.

After the words of @postsaurischian I think, think and re-thing the choice of colour.

It will stand next to my yellow Apato and to my blue Mamenchi...and it should not look the same as this two.

One more thing...is that reconstruction not "too big" in comparison with their other sauropods?
When I made a quick research of the genus at wikipedia I wondered if the torso is not too high when compared with Apatosaurus?
Is it really 1:35? May some of the sauropod-experts can tell if I am on the wrong or the right way. 

It is 105 cm along the curve, it is a perfect 1/35, and yes they had that incredible torso, HLG Apato is louisae Bronto excelsus size so it is not as big as Apatos could get.

[Turkeysaurus]

Special edition (purple) ana even brown reminds me purple Alamosaurus a little bit.

I would rather have blue or grey this one if i could.

[Rayeknor]

Scale is correct for 1:35. These animals were walking whales. I saw the Patagotitan in London and this animal was supposedly slightly larger still. ~8foot femur was surreal to stand next to!

Got confirmation from Everything dinosaur they will carry this figure as well.

[Daspletodave]

Do you think that the brown version looks more like their yellow Apatosaurus or has it a more orange/almost red colour?

I can't quite figureout, if the blue variant has the same blue as their blue Mamenchisaurus. In the shots with the other sauropods and the child it seems to be elephant grey and on the beach-pics it seems top be more bluey.

After the words of @postsaurischian I think, think and re-thing the choice of colour.

It will stand next to my yellow Apato and to my blue Mamenchi...and it should not look the same as this two.

One more thing...is that reconstruction not "too big" in comparison with their other sauropods?
When I made a quick research of the genus at wikipedia I wondered if the torso is not too high when compared with Apatosaurus?
Is it really 1:35? May some of the sauropod-experts can tell if I am on the wrong or the right way. 

All titanosaur remains are extremely fragmentary, making the size estimates vary widely. So a mounted skeleton in a museum is not proof that the actual animal was as large as the display- most of the "bones" are based on better known species like Diplodocus and scaled up.
Personally I don't think Argentinosaurus was as big as the HLG model suggests.

[ceratopsian]

Given the size of this beast and shipping, I've elected to order from my local Everything Dinosaur.  I've gone for the brown.  I like the purple as well, but the brown fits best with my Alamosaurus and Mamenchisaurus colours.  I would be happy though with any of the four versions individually, if I wasn't taking into account my existing models.

[Flaffy]

Some news from EverythingDinosaur:

New pic that shows the finalised(?) 4 colour schemes courtesy of EverythingDinosaur . You can't go wrong with any of them really though I am biased towards the flashier two colour schemes. Note the differences on HLG-130, where the prototype looks more blended & orangey-red, compared to the finalised ver. with more mottled brown patterning & much lighter underbelly.



"A rough guideline buying price at the moment is £240 to £260 GBP plus shipping. Good news for UK customers is that shipping would be £7.99 GBP." "These figures will be supplied with a complimentary 1:35 scale Huayangosaurus, playing/collector cards and 5 posters." - @Everything_Dinosaur

So does this mean any Argentinosaurus purchased from ED will include all the preorder bonuses? Or is ED opening up their own preorders alongisde other online shops for the 8th Oct - 18th Oct period? And there's the question of the Purple version apparently being available for sale at ED as well. I thought it was limited to 30 pieces? Or will this be a similar case to Papo's "Limited Edition" Spinosaurus (2019).

Hopefully these questions will be cleared up in their blogpost being posted tomorrow, but still worth keeping in mind in case of disappointment for the more elusive items.

[Flaffy]

Given the size of this beast and shipping, I've elected to order from my local Everything Dinosaur.  I've gone for the brown.  I like the purple as well, but the brown fits best with my Alamosaurus and Mamenchisaurus colours.  I would be happy though with any of the four versions individually, if I wasn't taking into account my existing models.

ED quoted 240-260 GBP for the Argentinosaurus, which ends up being the same as importing from Lana I think?

US$199.99 + US$115 (shipping) = ~US$315 = ~241 GBP.

I guess the big question is whether EverythingDinosaur is doing a preorder system like Lana, or if they're just doing a normal "sales open when stock arrives". The latter would be hugely benefitial to people who don't have the funds right now, but are still interested in getting the Purple version, or the alledged preorder gifts.

[ceratopsian]

Possibly the same price.  But if the Lana time box gets stopped by customs, 20% to add?

Given the size of this beast and shipping, I've elected to order from my local Everything Dinosaur.  I've gone for the brown.  I like the purple as well, but the brown fits best with my Alamosaurus and Mamenchisaurus colours.  I would be happy though with any of the four versions individually, if I wasn't taking into account my existing models.

ED quoted 240-260 GBP for the Argentinosaurus, which ends up being the same as importing from Lana I think?

US$199.99 + US$115 (shipping) = ~US$315 = ~241 GBP.

I guess the big question is whether EverythingDinosaur is doing a preorder system like Lana, or if they're just doing a normal "sales open when stock arrives". The latter would be hugely benefitial to people who don't have the funds right now, but are still interested in getting the Purple version, or the alledged preorder gifts.

[Samrukia]

@Flaffy

"
We know that only a few of the 001 will be produced, however, we do not know how many in total.
" from ED FB

[Samrukia]

Given the size of this beast and shipping, I've elected to order from my local Everything Dinosaur.  I've gone for the brown.  I like the purple as well, but the brown fits best with my Alamosaurus and Mamenchisaurus colours.  I would be happy though with any of the four versions individually, if I wasn't taking into account my existing models.

ED quoted 240-260 GBP for the Argentinosaurus, which ends up being the same as importing from Lana I think?

US$199.99 + US$115 (shipping) = ~US$315 = ~241 GBP.

I guess the big question is whether EverythingDinosaur is doing a preorder system like Lana, or if they're just doing a normal "sales open when stock arrives". The latter would be hugely benefitial to people who don't have the funds right now, but are still interested in getting the Purple version, or the alledged preorder gifts.

i did the same math - for UK customers it's essentially the same.
for me shipping from Lana is cheaper (i am from Kazakhstan)

regarding extras,
do you remember how it was for Alamosaurus gift base offer?

upd. sorry, forgot about customs taxes in my math

[Flaffy]

Possibly the same price.  But if the Lana time box gets stopped by customs, 20% to add?

Good point! More maths:

Max price from Lana: US$315 x 1.20 (customs) = US$378 = ~290 GBP
Max price from ED: 260 GBP + 8 GBP (shipping) = 268 GBP

You are correct in your initial assessment that ordering from ED will be cheaper for UK customers. I currently have secured a 001 (purple ver.) preorder from Lana, but may switch to ED instead if Lana allows. The big question hinges on whether ED is confirmed to have 001 stock allocated towards them for sale, or if only Lana is allowed to sell the special edition version. I really don't want to have cancelled my Lana preorder, only to then have ED not be allocated 001 stock.

[Flaffy]

@Flaffy

"
We know that only a few of the 001 will be produced, however, we do not know how many in total.
" from ED FB

The lack of concrete information at the moment keeps me from cancelling my Lana preorder. I would vastly prefer to order from ED given the 22GBP difference, and no need to deal with the uncertainty of customs.

[Samrukia]

@Flaffy i am not familiar how customs taxes work, but shouldn't those % be added on the product price only, without shipment charges?
$200 * 1.2 + $115 = $355

[Flaffy]

@Flaffy i am not familiar how customs taxes work, but shouldn't those % be added on the product price only, without shipment charges?
$200 * 1.2 + $115 = $355

Neither am I. I was under the impression that if a good's value is over the 135 GBP threshold, customs would apply to both goods value & postage. Would be grateful if someone more familiar could chime in too.

[triceratops83]

What the hell? I tried to order the brown Argentinosaurus, and even though I've ordered from Lana plenty of times before they suddenly won't ship to my address. I even tried my P.O. box address. Since when does China not ship to Australia? I even have current orders from them. Really annoyed. Guess I won't get that Huayangosaurus. Surely shipping to Australia from Asia is less problematic than to the rest of the world? 

[Samrukia]

What the hell? I tried to order the brown Argentinosaurus, and even though I've ordered from Lana plenty of times before they suddenly won't ship to my address. I even tried my P.O. box address. Since when does China not ship to Australia? I even have current orders from them. Really annoyed. Guess I won't get that Huayangosaurus. Surely shipping to Australia from Asia is less problematic than to the rest of the world? 

i also couldn't get it to my country.
just DM them in facebook, they fixed it for me

[ceratopsian]

Yes the postage is included in the calculation @Flaffy. Plus there is a handling charge if VAT is not collected by the company sending the goods.  So one might be lucky or not!

@Flaffy i am not familiar how customs taxes work, but shouldn't those % be added on the product price only, without shipment charges?
$200 * 1.2 + $115 = $355

Neither am I. I was under the impression that if a good's value is over the 135 GBP threshold, customs would apply to both goods value & postage. Would be grateful if someone more familiar could chime in too.

[Samrukia]

a factory is taken over

a lot of money in this video

[Paleo Flo]

Could someone please do some math for us guys in Germany?
199 Dollar + 115 shipping + 19% taxes?

[thomasw100]

All titanosaur remains are extremely fragmentary, making the size estimates vary widely. So a mounted skeleton in a museum is not proof that the actual animal was as large as the display- most of the "bones" are based on better known species like Diplodocus and scaled up.
Personally I don't think Argentinosaurus was as big as the HLG model suggests.

Obviously size estimates for rather fragmentary extinct animals carry a large uncertainty. But we need to also take into account the within-population size distribution and how this is reflected in the very limited sample basis (number of fossil individuals that we have). For example, it has been estimated that in the Morrison formation at any time about 250 thousand to about 1 million large sauropods were living (see the book by John Foster). The Morrison spans at least 5 million years of geological time. So this means many millions of sauropods. From the best represented sauropod genus of the Morrison, Camarasaurus, we have maybe about 200 or 300 fossil individuals. So how likely is it that the size distribution of this small sample will reflect the true size distribution of a genus or species that is not well known? I think not very likely.

Therefore, an approach based on analysis of size distribution in a population where the size of the largest know individual is compared to the average size of individuals in that population is more reasonable in my view. This has been done for a number of extinct and extant large land animals including some dinosaurs and also mammals, and the result shows that the ratio is mostly between 1.5 and 2.5. So there is considerable scope for size variation beyond what the typically small sample of individuals of a species preserved as fossils would suggest.

Finally I think that your statement that size estimates of large titanosaurs would be just based on upscaling from Diplodocus is not correct. There are some titanosaurs with more complete fossil remains, including even rather large ones like Dreadnoughtus and Alamosaurus, and their bone proportions are typically used for estimating the size range of very large but more fragmentary titanosaurs. Of course, as with any scientific extrapolation method, these estimates come with a considerable uncertainty interval.