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PNSO New for 2025

Started by Renecito, March 01, 2025, 08:44:28 AM

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Primeval12

Quote from: Halichoeres on March 31, 2025, 05:51:51 PM
Quote from: ceratopsian on March 28, 2025, 01:53:28 PMYou could be reported for cruelty to animals avatar_Halichoeres @Halichoeres:)

Quote from: Halichoeres on March 28, 2025, 10:42:24 AMI will be using this figure as a bottle opener.


I've been using the Schleich Shonisaurus as a lawn dart, which is probably even crueler.

That's probably why it only lasted a year in production! It seems like a danger to kids!


thomasw100

Dinos Dragons review of Stellasaurus:


SidB

Whatever quibbles one may entertain regarding specific extrapolations from the quite fragmentary fossil remains, it's undeniable that the quality of the sculpt and superb conceptualization and application of the paint work  makes this a very desirable figure. Glad that I ordered one.

Primeval12

avatar_Halichoeres @Halichoeres you'll never guess what I came across at the thrift store today... A LAWN DART! Given your previous joke about it, I find that hilarious!

Also, I need this Stellasaurus! I love David Bowie so a dino named after him is an absolute must!

ceratopsian

The forum is so educational!  I had to google "lawn dart" avatar_Halichoeres @Halichoeres! :)


Quote from: Primeval12 on April 01, 2025, 01:58:09 AMavatar_Halichoeres @Halichoeres you'll never guess what I came across at the thrift store today... A LAWN DART! Given your previous joke about it, I find that hilarious!

Also, I need this Stellasaurus! I love David Bowie so a dino named after him is an absolute must!

Gwangi

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Quote from: Primeval12 on April 01, 2025, 01:58:09 AMavatar_Halichoeres @Halichoeres you'll never guess what I came across at the thrift store today... A LAWN DART! Given your previous joke about it, I find that hilarious!

Also, I need this Stellasaurus! I love David Bowie so a dino named after him is an absolute must!

Bowie fan here too and that does add some additional appeal to the Stellasaurus.

It's probably not intentional but the patterning over the eyes and the eye color itself gives off Bowie vibes. Would have been cool if they leaned heavy into one of his looks.





Primeval12

What if the other eye is a different color?!

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Gwangi

Quote from: Primeval12 on April 01, 2025, 05:34:15 PMWhat if the other eye is a different color?!

Even better! But I know it's not.  :-\

ceratopsian

One could wield a paint brush....

Quote from: Gwangi on April 01, 2025, 06:41:53 PM
Quote from: Primeval12 on April 01, 2025, 05:34:15 PMWhat if the other eye is a different color?!

Even better! But I know it's not.  :-\

Gwangi


Halichoeres

Quote from: Primeval12 on April 01, 2025, 01:58:09 AMavatar_Halichoeres @Halichoeres you'll never guess what I came across at the thrift store today... A LAWN DART! Given your previous joke about it, I find that hilarious!

Also, I need this Stellasaurus! I love David Bowie so a dino named after him is an absolute must!

Ha, that's great!

Quote from: ceratopsian on April 01, 2025, 08:56:32 AMThe forum is so educational!  I had to google "lawn dart" avatar_Halichoeres @Halichoeres! :)


So glad I could introduce you to this most excellent game!

Quote from: Gwangi on April 01, 2025, 07:58:42 PM
Quote from: ceratopsian on April 01, 2025, 06:47:55 PMOne could wield a paint brush....

Quote from: Gwangi on April 01, 2025, 06:41:53 PM
Quote from: Primeval12 on April 01, 2025, 05:34:15 PMWhat if the other eye is a different color?!

Even better! But I know it's not.  :-\

Hmmm... ????

Do it!
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thomasw100

Official PNSO video describing the reconstruction of Stellasaurus:


Concavenator

Quote from: Concavenator on March 19, 2025, 08:23:12 PM

Some thoughts on that Tyrannosaurus:

- Looking at the skull on the 3rd pic, that looks like Stan to me. Which is considered to represent an example of the "gracile" morphotype of Tyrannosaurus rex. In that case, I'd expect the figure to not be as bulky as Cameron (which is based on Sue, an example of the "robust" morphotype).

- Despite not having been released (nor revealed) yet, it already looks like this figure has become obsolete owing to the lack of exoparia (Sharpe et al., 2025). Will they modify it?

Interestingly, looks like Eofauna predicted (?) the presence of the exoparia on their Tyrannosaurus figure.

- On top of that, it would seem that its tongue is too big. No surprise in that, that is the case with most of their recent theropods. Theropods had reduced tongues (Li et al., 2018). As far as I can tell, only their recent spinosaurids and their Deinocheirus have appropriately short tongues.

By contrast, both the BotM and the Eofauna Tyrannosaurus have appropriately short tongues.

Even if these two details (one of which is just the figure becoming obsolete, which is out of PNSO's control) can be considered minor, technically, they're still inaccuracies. Worth bringing up, because some people suggest that PNSO's lipped Tyrannosaurus will be utter perfection and the "definitive" Tyrannosaurus, and as far as accuracy goes, that might not be the case.

Obviously, I'm not saying it'll be bad, nor inaccurate (generally speaking). I'm confident it will still be among the best Tyrannosaurus figures ever made. But not the single best one.

Even if it proved to be more accurate than the aforementioned two figures in some regards, like, for virtue of not being an articulated model against the BotM, or the placement of the dewclaws against the Eofauna (and potentially some of the musculature??), accuracy-wise, and based on this pic, it's still topped by the other two figures in at least 1 aspect.

Which goes to say that, as it is, it won't necessarily be superior to the BotM or the Eofauna Tyrannosaurus as far as accuracy goes. It would seem that not a single one of those 3 figures would be literally perfect (even if they're so good they could practically and easily be considered as such), so it'd come down to a matter of personal preferences.

Would this lipped PNSO Tyrannosaurus be the nicest figure of the species yet? Well, for some it might be, but that's subjective. Eofauna and Creative Beast are companies that offer super high-quality models, both of them have made their own Tyrannosaurus figures and both of them did it great.

Because of the aforementioned reasons is that I disagree with the popular notion of PNSO's lipped Tyrannosaurus being the perfect, ideal figure of the species (not that I wanna say that more Tyrannosaurus figures are needed, but the other way around, that more Tyrannosaurus figures aren't needed at this point, at least IMO).


SidB

What do you think, avatar_Concavenator @Concavenator , would the exoparia, etc. be a readily do-able modification for a good paleoartist (e.g., Bravo Models) on an existing PNSO sculpt?

Over9K

Quote from: Concavenator on April 05, 2025, 04:37:13 PMEven if these two details (one of which is just the figure becoming obsolete, which is out of PNSO's control) can be considered minor, technically, they're still inaccuracies. Worth bringing up, because some people suggest that PNSO's lipped Tyrannosaurus will be utter perfection and the "definitive" Tyrannosaurus, and as far as accuracy goes, that might not be the case.

Doesn't the varanid-esque visage already eliminate the new PNSO from "definitive" status, due to being an "artistic" choice?


Joel1905

Quote from: Concavenator on April 05, 2025, 04:37:13 PM
Quote from: Concavenator on March 19, 2025, 08:23:12 PM

Some thoughts on that Tyrannosaurus:

- Looking at the skull on the 3rd pic, that looks like Stan to me. Which is considered to represent an example of the "gracile" morphotype of Tyrannosaurus rex. In that case, I'd expect the figure to not be as bulky as Cameron (which is based on Sue, an example of the "robust" morphotype).

- Despite not having been released (nor revealed) yet, it already looks like this figure has become obsolete owing to the lack of exoparia (Sharpe et al., 2025). Will they modify it?

Interestingly, looks like Eofauna predicted (?) the presence of the exoparia on their Tyrannosaurus figure.

- On top of that, it would seem that its tongue is too big. No surprise in that, that is the case with most of their recent theropods. Theropods had reduced tongues (Li et al., 2018). As far as I can tell, only their recent spinosaurids and their Deinocheirus have appropriately short tongues.

By contrast, both the BotM and the Eofauna Tyrannosaurus have appropriately short tongues.

Even if these two details (one of which is just the figure becoming obsolete, which is out of PNSO's control) can be considered minor, technically, they're still inaccuracies. Worth bringing up, because some people suggest that PNSO's lipped Tyrannosaurus will be utter perfection and the "definitive" Tyrannosaurus, and as far as accuracy goes, that might not be the case.

Obviously, I'm not saying it'll be bad, nor inaccurate (generally speaking). I'm confident it will still be among the best Tyrannosaurus figures ever made. But not the single best one.

Even if it proved to be more accurate than the aforementioned two figures in some regards, like, for virtue of not being an articulated model against the BotM, or the placement of the dewclaws against the Eofauna (and potentially some of the musculature??), accuracy-wise, and based on this pic, it's still topped by the other two figures in at least 1 aspect.

Which goes to say that, as it is, it won't necessarily be superior to the BotM or the Eofauna Tyrannosaurus as far as accuracy goes. It would seem that not a single one of those 3 figures would be literally perfect (even if they're so good they could practically and easily be considered as such), so it'd come down to a matter of personal preferences.

Would this lipped PNSO Tyrannosaurus be the nicest figure of the species yet? Well, for some it might be, but that's subjective. Eofauna and Creative Beast are companies that offer super high-quality models, both of them have made their own Tyrannosaurus figures and both of them did it great.

Because of the aforementioned reasons is that I disagree with the popular notion of PNSO's lipped Tyrannosaurus being the perfect, ideal figure of the species (not that I wanna say that more Tyrannosaurus figures are needed, but the other way around, that more Tyrannosaurus figures aren't needed at this point, at least IMO).

The exoparia doesn't actually change much appearance wise. It's just a muscle, and no, it doesn't give Tyrannosaurus bear like cheeks.

Joel1905

Quote from: Over9K on April 05, 2025, 06:28:27 PM
Quote from: Concavenator on April 05, 2025, 04:37:13 PMEven if these two details (one of which is just the figure becoming obsolete, which is out of PNSO's control) can be considered minor, technically, they're still inaccuracies. Worth bringing up, because some people suggest that PNSO's lipped Tyrannosaurus will be utter perfection and the "definitive" Tyrannosaurus, and as far as accuracy goes, that might not be the case.

Doesn't the varanid-esque visage already eliminate the new PNSO from "definitive" status, due to being an "artistic" choice?



No.

Joel1905

Quote from: SidB on April 05, 2025, 05:39:03 PMWhat do you think, avatar_Concavenator @Concavenator , would the exoparia, etc. be a readily do-able modification for a good paleoartist (e.g., Bravo Models) on an existing PNSO sculpt?

The Exoparia changes very little, appearance wise. Lizard like mouth corners are still accurate and the most likely.

SidB

Quote from: Joel1905 on April 05, 2025, 06:39:20 PM
Quote from: SidB on April 05, 2025, 05:39:03 PMWhat do you think, avatar_Concavenator @Concavenator , would the exoparia, etc. be a readily do-able modification for a good paleoartist (e.g., Bravo Models) on an existing PNSO sculpt?

The Exoparia changes very little, appearance wise. Lizard like mouth corners are still accurate and the most likely.
That's quite a difference in  interpretation with avatar_Concavenator @Concavenator as regards the relevance versus obsoleteness of the current figures, especially the prospective upcoming PNSO rex. Any imagery available?

Joel1905

Quote from: SidB on April 05, 2025, 07:00:12 PM
Quote from: Joel1905 on April 05, 2025, 06:39:20 PM
Quote from: SidB on April 05, 2025, 05:39:03 PMWhat do you think, avatar_Concavenator @Concavenator , would the exoparia, etc. be a readily do-able modification for a good paleoartist (e.g., Bravo Models) on an existing PNSO sculpt?

The Exoparia changes very little, appearance wise. Lizard like mouth corners are still accurate and the most likely.
That's quite a difference in  interpretation with avatar_Concavenator @Concavenator as regards the relevance versus obsoleteness of the current figures, especially the prospective upcoming PNSO rex. Any imagery available?

Not on hand, but check out RJ Palmer & Scott Hartman's comments on it.

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