Jurassic World: Rebirth (July 2, 2025) 🦕

[Cpt Red 3eard]

I think a big issue is that Koepp is limited by what he knows. Crichton did a ton of research into paleontology and dinosaurs so he could more accurately write it.
Loomis should have been like us paleo enthusiasts, speculating on their behaviors, physiology, and trying his best to probe deeper.
I don't think Koepp knows much more beyond the dramatic structure of the films and animals used. Or if he does, it soesnt show in his writing. The script could have really used a consultant who knew about these things.

[ItsTwentyBelow]

Finally saw this yesterday and was pleasantly surprised after going in knowing it was going to feature mutant monster dinos...again. Overall not a terrible film though, and it reminded me of the best parts of Lost World and JPIII and gave me nostalgia for both! It's strictly a better movie than Fallen Kingdom or Dominion, so that's great. Here are my thoughts:

- Dr. Loomis was a great new addition, and I love that he says he was one of Dr. Grant's students, so in a way we get Grant's presence in this film, through Loomis. I like to think Grant would have fully supported Loomis' wishes for the samples. The quick gag of him loudly crunching on mints in a couple scenes was pretty funny!

- The family with kids was a fine addition, and they're part of the awesome T. rex river attack scene we finally got to see on screen in some form, inspired by the first JP book. Although, the younger sister was pretty much wearing a tank's worth of plot armor around both rexes 

- My boy Parasaurolophus unfortunately makes only one corpse-y appearance, but is still one of the only three dinos (other two being T. rex and Velociraptor) to appear on screen in every single Jurassic movie!

- I liked that the Titanosaur scene was a nice break from the usual imminent danger and showcased them 'JP Brachiosaurus' style, complete with Loomis having a moment. Definitely was a walk in the park for the team to get that sample!

- Was happy Duncan lived!

- they really did Velociraptor dirty there!

- Think this is the first Jurassic movie to show us some archaeological ruins, even if they're fictional.

- Damn that one dude was so brutally gobbled up by the Quetz... we hadn't seen a Jurassic death quite like that before!

- Mutadons inside the store reminded me a little of the abandoned store scene from the Lost World book, briefly of Malcolm tangling with the raptor in TLW movie, but mostly of the raptor kitchen scene from the first movie, which was the intent.

- While I could have done without the D. rex, the shot of it destroying the helicopter was pretty cool! I knew the chopper had come too early when the main cast had not fully dealt with the monsters on the ground yet...

Had a good cast of fossil critters off the top of my head, let me know if I missed anything:

- Ankylosaurus
- Anurognathus
- Apatosaurus
- Aquilops
- unidentified sail-backed amphibian
- Dilophosaurus
- Dunkleosteus (at least the front half!)
- Megalodon jaw specimen
- Mosasaurus
- Parasaurolophus (very much dead)
- Quetzalcoatlus
- Spinosaurus
- Titanosaurus
- T. rex
- Velociraptor
- couldn't ID the tiny red and brown theropods, looked like Compies

and, of course, the mutadons and D. rex.

Inevitable that there will be another movie, so I wouldn't mind seeing some of these new human characters again. I'd be ok if they want to try shipping Dr. Loomis and Zora in the future, they might have had a thing there by the end!

[Flaffy]

I think a big issue is that Koepp is limited by what he knows. Crichton did a ton of research into paleontology and dinosaurs so he could more accurately write it.
Loomis should have been like us paleo enthusiasts, speculating on their behaviors, physiology, and trying his best to probe deeper.
I don't think Koepp knows much more beyond the dramatic structure of the films and animals used. Or if he does, it soesnt show in his writing. The script could have really used a consultant who knew about these things.

I agree. I find it quite shocking an established paleontologist would refer to Quetzalcoatlus and Mosasaurus as dinosaurs (Loomis in the museum scene). Or how this kaiju-sized titanosaur being somehow only 11 tons.

Shows Koepp's distinct lack of paleontological knowledge.

Loomis was my favourite character in the film. I liked seeing someone so genuinely enthusiastic about dinosaurs. Just wish the writing was a bit smarter to back up his supposed role as a paleo-consultant.

[Blade-of-the-Moon]

I hate to say it but everyone has days they get frustrated and just go with the flow.  I've had the upteenth person call every pterosaur a pterodactyl and a flying dinosaur and I just nod my head. Same the marine reptiles, I try to describe them and they have no idea what  I mean by mosasaurs or pliosaurs or plesiosaurs so I'm stuck telling them the long necked swimming dinosaurs.. inward cringe.  So I sort of wrote it off in my head as such a moment. He's losing his museum, his field has been replaced by genetically engineered theme park monsters, it's just not a good day for him.

That said if it wasn't intentional like I hope that Apatosaurus/brachiosaurus comment was , then the advisor to the film should have caught it?

[Torvosaurus]

Well, being around a bunch of mercs and the family who probably don't know (or care) about the differences between pterosaurs, dinosaurs and the sea reptiles, I could see Loomis just using the "dinosaur" label in general to just keep it plain and simple for everybody else's sake.

Torvo

[Dilopho]

Or how this kaiju-sized titanosaur being somehow only 11 tons.

I bet what happened is they used the size for the actual Titanosaurus dinosaur, which was estimated to weigh 10-15 tons, and not the Patagotitan-sized animal they have in the film.
And yes, the one in the film is scaled up from a Patagotitan but not by too much. I think if they added a zero and made it 110 tons then it would make a lot more sense.

I'm willing to bet that this is also a result of Patagotitan simply being marketed as "The Titanosaur" by various museums.

[Flaffy]

Or how this kaiju-sized titanosaur being somehow only 11 tons.

I bet what happened is they used the size for the actual Titanosaurus dinosaur, which was estimated to weigh 10-15 tons, and not the Patagotitan-sized animal they have in the film.
And yes, the one in the film is scaled up from a Patagotitan but not by too much. I think if they added a zero and made it 110 tons then it would make a lot more sense.

I'm willing to bet that this is also a result of Patagotitan simply being marketed as "The Titanosaur" by various museums.

Most definitely the case. Honestly the JWR Titanosaurs are Bruhathkayosaurus sized behemoths, a 100+ ton estimate would be both much more realistic and sound far more impressive in script.

[Delisaurus Steven]

I have to say, it's been a few days and man, I cannot get this movie out of my head. I still have major issues with the overall story in terms of its implications on the larger Jurassic storyline, and with the poor setup of the plot and characters in general. But I think that the dinosaur set pieces, and moment to moment character interaction are some of the better iterations in the series, probably right under JP and Lost World. I love that the animals act like animals for the most part, and after reflecting a bit more on it, I think that in general the characters feel fairly natural in their reactions to the situations they find themselves in. I think if they had given this movie some more time to cook, it really could have been something special.

My initial reaction was one of visceral dislike, again because the story setup is so poorly concocted, but as time is passing, I'm really finding myself only thinking about the things I enjoyed. At this point, I'd actually like to see this film again, as I think going in with different expectations would do wonders for the experience. I have to say, I think I would revise my ranking:

Jurassic Park
The Lost World
Jurassic World
Rebirth
JP3
Dominion
Fallen Kingdom

[Prehistory Resurrection]

So I finally went to the movie theater today and went to watch Jurassic Word: Rebirth. I did not like or dislike it. Left me with mixed feelings. I liked some aspects about this movie but there were also negatives for me to derive.

-I feel that I should start with the positive take-aways first. It was action-packed and had mind-blowing visuals. The CGI/ special effects were simply amazing and breath-taking; it was so immersive to see on the big screen. It is an action-filled movie. The beautiful scenery and thrilling visuals add to this immersion. That Titanosaurus scene was very visually and emotionally engaging.

-Moreover, I liked the creature designs. Before watching the movie, I was curious to learn more about these new variants, but I guess I can just accept that these were just other variants that Ingen created.

-I also liked the natural behaviour of the animals; they did not behave like generic, aggressive movie monsters (I am not referring to the mutants). I liked the T-Rex swimming scene, which is reminiscent of the JP novel.

- I liked Henry Loomis' philosophical side; reminds me of Ian Malcolm from the very first film in the saga. I also liked the occasional humour; perhaps my favourite character from the film.

- The plot armor in this film isn't as thick as in the previous films according to me.

- I liked the tension and climax, like how for example, Duncan survives in the end.

I think that's about it for the positive takeaways. Now about the negatives; firstly, I feel that the character interaction and development, although albeit could be better, was made good with the actors' performance, especially Jonathan Bailey as Dr Henry Loomis.

I think that's about it for the positive takeaways. Now about the negatives;

- Firstly, there are some already seen/ recurent things in the franchise make their return again; a family who takes a vacation to or nearby a restricted, dinosaur island for some reason. Moreover, the theme of hubris and greed again explored with Big Pharma trying to have monopoly over a cure to heart disease with the goal of extracting DNA samples this time; I do not really like the plot. Furthermore, the bad guy always dying at the end feels repetitive, which in this case was Krebs. Also, we see yet another; seriously how many islands did Ingen have to conduct its activities? Hybrids/Failed genetic experiments/Mutants are yet, again seen. The excuse of people getting bored of the normal dinosaurs feels tired and over-used. Finally, though I liked the specific scenes reminiscent of the ones from the first film, such as the Mutadons on the abandoned gas station being reminiscent of the Raptors in the kitchen scene, or the dolphins at the end reminiscent of the pelicans from the first movie, this does not score for originality.

- I found the  plot where the Snickers wrapper got sucked into a door airlock and started the system malfunction really dumb. Is this some kind of subliminal advertising for Snickers in the film?

- Moreover, the Raptors were under-used in this film.

-Finally, was expecting a final battle involving the D-Rex with some other big bads at the end such as T-Rex or the Spinos and the D-Rex dies, but there wasn't any. However, this would be too repetitive where the big bad is defeated at the near end of the film.


All in all, a fun action-filled, popcorn style movie. Not the best in the franchise, but it is mid. I think it would be unfair to compare it to the very first film in the saga, given the direction where this franchise is headed. I do not think there was a reason for yet another instalment in this franchise so soon but here we are anyways. This franchise has already been milked dry at this point.

[DinoToyForum]

Is this some kind of subliminal advertising for Snickers in the film?

It's product placement, same as the Altoid mints that one of the characters eats.

[Protopatch]

We saw JWR yesterday with a friend who has found it rubbishy  
Actually, it was less bad than I'd anticipated, despite many inconsistencies and the overall obvious script.

The first scene where the employee of the high-security lab is eating a snack (won't name it ) sounds so unlikely, but it already sets the tone for the rest of the film lol
The actors probably did their best, considering the flimsiness of the scenario
I found that the paleo character was a bit transparent in comparison with the warriors Zora and Duncan.
And indeed, as previously mentioned by someone in this thread, we easily guess which characters will die and which won't.

Also a bit disappointed by the fact that the spotlight is clearly on those ugly alien-like hybrid creatures to the detriment of « real » dinos : the Ankylosaurus and Dilophosaurus were great but their apparition was so furtive !
However, there were still nice special effects in a few scenes ^^

In short, I really had a good moment, but like the previous sequels in my opinion, it's definitely not nearly so brilliant as the first JP.

[Cretaceous Crab]

The family and I went out and finally saw Jurassic World: Rebirth yesterday. Here is my review, of sorts. ***SPOILERS ALERT***

Spoiler

First, the good things I enjoyed about the film.

• Spinosaurus is one of my favorite dinosaurs, so like many other JP/JW fans out there, I was happy to see the franchise revamp its design to reflect current understandings (for the most part) of the species. And while it is never explicitly stated in canon (so far anyway), the JWR Spinos may provide explanation to what happened to the crew on the boat that Ben Hildebrand and Eric Kirby was parasailing from in JP3.
• Similar to the Spino, the new more-accurate look for the Mosasaurus (despite it being nearly kaiju-sized) was satisfying. The scene of the team obtaining a blood sample was probably one of the most realistic scenes of the entire franchise.
• The Titanosaurus scenes were breathtaking and nearly took me back to the first Brachiosaurus scene in the first film. The design choice was a little odd, but unique to make it stand out against previous sauropods in the franchise. Likewise, Dr. Loomis' reaction to his experience is probably similar to what mine would have been in his position. I imagine many reading this review would feel the same. Not sure what I think of the elephantine hairs on the skin though.
• Dolores the Aquilops was refreshingly charming. She definitely provided a cute contrast to the other creatures in the film, but not in a distracting or overly unrealistic way. She definitely has the potential to join the ranks of the franchise's popular individual dinos, like Bumpy, Smoothie and Blue.
• The absolute massive Tyrannosaurus rex (almost V-rex sized!) and its scene with the raft was awesome. Any fan of the source material will appreciate it. Besides Rexy, my favorite individual T. rex of the franchise. In fact, I think he and Rexy should meet. 
• The Distortus rex was an unique choice for the film's big bad. As I mentioned in another post (can't recall the thread...may have been this one), the franchise is running out of giant theropods to rival T. rex, so they created their own monster (in an ironic commentary to the franchise overall theme of trying to please audiences). Though it is not explicitly mentioned in the film itself, marketing described the D. rex as a deformed mutant, and not necessarily a hybrid, such as the Indominus rex. Anyone familiar with Gareth Edward's previous work will notice the similarities between D. rex and the MUTOs from his 2014 film, Godzilla.

Now for my less favorable views...

The Plot – The plot was okay, as dinosaur movies go, but IMHO, not very original and therefore, it felt redundant, especially within the JW franchise. To paraphrase Udesky from JP3, "There's another island with dinosaurs on them, and yet another secret facility where they were making weird genetic critters?" 

The Characters – I don't necessarily have an issue with none of the previous main characters returning, as it really does not make sense for them to. However, I don't feel there was enough development of any of the characters (protagonists and villains) for the audience to connect with them in this film. To help explain this, let's take a look at the protagonists from the previous films:

• JP – We relate to Dr. Grant and Dr. Sattler in their scientific curiosity & motivation to get more funding for their paleontological efforts, as well as their own relationship with each other and Dr. Grant's initial discomfort around children.
• TLW – We relate to Dr. Malcolm's reluctance to get involved with dinos again, but more importantly his drive to rescue his girlfriend, & protect his daughter. We also see some repentant and reformation from Hammond trying to correct some of his mistakes.
• JP3 – We relate to the Kirby's family dysfunction and their eventual reconnection. We also see Dr. Grant once again get pulled into the fray by money to help what he perceives as a dying profession, and his relationship with Billy.
• JW – We relate to Claire in her dedication to her job, keeping the park profitable and trying to maintain control, as well as her estranged relationship with her sister's family. Also to Owen in his more grounded pragmatic approach to problems and respect for the dinos. In the following films, we see their views mature and grow, as well as their relationship with each other. There's development with Masrani as well, in his ambition but some degree of responsibility to help resolve the situation with the Indominus.
• JW:FK – More Claire and Owen dynamics, as well as Mills' villainous arc.
• JW:D – More Claire and Owen development, especially with Maisie, as well as Maisie's own coming to terms with her identity. And of course, some renewed character development with Grant, Sattler and Malcolm.

We didn't get any of this with Rebirth.

• Zora Bennett – we just get introduced as some smart, tactical mercenary who may do anything for the right price. Later there was some mention of a colleague (or more?) getting killed in a past mission. Then, there was a little heart-to-heart with Duncan about taking time to enjoy the things that really matter in life...or something. But that's it.
• Dr. Henry Loomis – the "dino" expert. He works in a museum, he loves dinosaurs and the token "square nerd" who may be out of his element in this dangerous mission.
• Duncan Kincaid – a broken relationship with someone involving a lost child, but not much more than that.
• Martin Krebs – another suit who wants to remain rich. In the past, we've gotten some development with Nedry, Ludlow, Masrani, Hoskins, Wu, Mills and Dodgson...but Krebs' character arc is pretty shallow.

Who is the D. rex, really? Yes, D. rex does have a commanding presence on screen, but in comparison to other individual dinos in the franchise, not much personality or development. Again, let's look at past films.

• JP - Velociraptors – they're fast, smart and lethal. Also, establishes Rexy as an antihero of sorts.
• TLW Rexes – not much background needed, but also introduced as caring and protective parents. We can relate to them in a way.
• JP3 – okay, so there wasn't much development on the super-predator Spino, but more on that later. However, the raptors got some extra attention in revealing their communication abilities and pack mentality.
• JW – with Indominus, we get to see her birth, why she was created in the first place, her issues, and motivation when she escapes. So there's some level of understanding her as a character, and not just a movie monster. And there's the introduction of Blue, and her relationship with Owen.
• JW:FK – More insight on the Owen-Blue dynamic. Also, we get some development of the Indoraptor ("it needs a mother!").
• JW: D – In minor glimpses, we come full circle to Rexy as an antihero, and seeing her finally meeting others of her own kind.  And again, more of Blue and Owen's bond.
• Then there's the tie-in dinos from the animated series, like Bumpy, Smoothie and Pierce. We even get some empathy towards Toro, the Baryonyx trio, Big Eatie and Little Eatie.

    But we get next-to-nothing for Distortus rex; nothing on how it ended up like it did, its quirks or motivation or why they even bothered to keep it alive. Personally, I don't buy the "we sunk too much money into it" excuse, because surely the liability it created by just existing, and the eventual damage it caused (not to mention the lives it took) would outweigh that. Since it is essentially a T. rex, I would have liked to see some interaction between it and any other rexes on the island. But alas, all we get is an enormous malformed juggernaut who is borderline large enough to be a kaiju, and no real back story.

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I did my best to go into the theater with an objective mind, having avoided any spoilers, and wanted to accept it at face value. 

Overall, this film had very JP3 vibes to it, in the sense that it is mostly a standalone piece not very connected to the rest of the franchise, easily more so than JP3 itself. The basic elements are there:
1. A random family that mostly was in the wrong place at the wrong time, and ended up on an island with dinosaurs.
2. A group of mercenaries on a covert and illegal mission.
3. A black guy gets eaten whole by a carnivore.
4. A giant super-predator that is seemingly feared by everything else on the island, and generally just wants to kill and eat everything.
5. A nighttime showdown between the humans and said giant predator that was a little anti-climatic, and included a secondary character we thought would die, but actually survived.
6. A family strengthened by the experience leaving the island into the sun.

Honestly, I feel that this film was part of the Jurassic World franchise in name only, and would have been more enjoyable and better accepted as a monster movie entirely in its own universe; i.e. Gareth Edward's Mutant Dinosaur Island. 

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I've said it before and I'll say it again.    [still hoping some rep from Universal Studios or Amblin sees this]

I think the franchise needs a complete reboot, and would recommend a movie, or more ideally a TV series taking place some time long before the events of the first Jurassic Park novel; specifically, centered around a younger John Hammond still building his company that would eventually become InGen, and working towards the idea of a dinosaur theme park. This could easily involve various subplots such as: 
 - the rivalry between InGen and BioSyn (and likewise, between Hammond and Lewis Dodgson)
 - the political and legal struggles he faces with his board of directors, investors and Donald Gennaro
 - family struggles with his daughter, her marriage and eventual divorce, and her kids Tim and Lex
 - Alan Grant's career in paleontology, and his relationship with Ellie Sattler
 - Ian Malcolm career in chaos theory, including occasional run-ins with both Hammond and Grant
 - developments of other minor characters such as Ed Regis (the novel's PR manager for JP...his role was merged with that of Gennaro in the film), Henry Wu, Ray Arnold, Robert Muldoon, and Dennis Nedry

...and of course, this would open the door to completely redesign any and all prehistoric species in the franchise.

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[Torvosaurus]

A lot of the discussion here has gone on about the accuracy of the dinosaurs, the mutants, the plot and just about every other aspect of this film. Most of us are fairly knowledgable about dinosaurs and are pretty unforgiving about the plot holes. We are pretty unforgiving in general.

Today I once more realized the purpose of this series.

I wasn't able to take my granddaughter (age 11) the first time I saw it and went by myself. It was alright in my book. Today I took her. I was able to watch her face since I'd already seen the movie. She covered her face as the mosasaur attacked the boats (both times) and gasped when the spinosaurs took out Atwater and Tina. She giggled when Dolores showed up. And more than anything else, her eyes were wide with wonder when the titanosaurs appeared and Loomis approached them to touch them (her favorite part). She jumped when the mutadon took out the raptors behind the boyfriend and squealed "no" when DeClerk was eaten. Her eyes were wide and she had her hands clenched at her mouth when the t-rex attacked the boat. And when the d-rex tore Krebs apart, she said that was mother nature showing everyone that you can't wave a gun around and threaten people to get your way.

For today at least, this is the greatest movie in the world.

Torvo

[Gwangi]

A lot of the discussion here has gone on about the accuracy of the dinosaurs, the mutants, the plot and just about every other aspect of this film. Most of us are fairly knowledgable about dinosaurs and are pretty unforgiving about the plot holes. We are pretty unforgiving in general.

Today I once more realized the purpose of this series.

I wasn't able to take my granddaughter (age 11) the first time I saw it and went by myself. It was alright in my book. Today I took her. I was able to watch her face since I'd already seen the movie. She covered her face as the mosasaur attacked the boats (both times) and gasped when the spinosaurs took out Atwater and Tina. She giggled when Dolores showed up. And more than anything else, her eyes were wide with wonder when the titanosaurs appeared and Loomis approached them to touch them (her favorite part). She jumped when the mutadon took out the raptors behind the boyfriend and squealed "no" when DeClerk was eaten. Her eyes were wide and she had her hands clenched at her mouth when the t-rex attacked the boat. And when the d-rex tore Krebs apart, she said that was mother nature showing everyone that you can't wave a gun around and threaten people to get your way.

For today at least, this is the greatest movie in the world.

Torvo

That's what it is all about! I had a similar experience with my daughter who was also enraptured by the Titanosaurus scene, was repeating over-and-over "the kids don't get hurt in these movies" during the raft scene, and kept remarking how beautiful the scenery was. Watching her watch it was as close as I could get to being a 9 y/o watching Jurassic Park on the big screen for the first time. It will always be a special movie to me now, regardless of quality. 

[Carnoking]

The Jurassic brand remains the most mainstream gateway to paleontology and prehistory. I may have grown up loving JP and dinosaurs but I very likely wouldn't still be in this hobby today if not for the release Jurassic World 10 years ago.

[Blade-of-the-Moon]

90% of the people who visit the park here have seen at least one of the movies. Each film is a new introduction to that. If it gets them in the door with flash and spectacle so they want to learn more it's not a bad thing.

[AcryAllo]

Just one more rant though...


Nina's death could've been easily avoided...By looking left, you could have seen the spino approaching and gotten the hell out of there...Screw the raft, your health and safety takes priority...

And Duncan's sacrifice?
Ian Malcolm and Duncan share the inability to properly use a flare as distraction... wave the flare at the D-Rex then yeet the flare and scram... Don't be the flare... You only succeeded in endangering yourself and bringing your fellow comrade's emotional trauma and stress.... Sure you survived but the moment your injured your a liability to the others survival....

[DinoToyForum]

90% of the people who visit the park here have seen at least one of the movies. Each film is a new introduction to that. If it gets them in the door with flash and spectacle so they want to learn more it's not a bad thing.

This feels somewhat ironic given a premise in two of the last four movies (JW and JW:R) is that everyone has become bored of dinosaurs.

From the Jurassic World script:

...let's be honest, no one is impressed by a dinosaur anymore...

consumers want them bigger, louder, more teeth.

From the Jurassic World: Rebirth script (in reference to a dinosaur museum):

Five years ago, you'd have to wait in line for hours if you could even get in. Nobody cares about these animals anymore.

Where the original JP was a love letter to palaeontology, the JW movies are...not. I could see how children watching 'D. rex', 'Mutadons', 'Indominus', and 'Indoraptor', would be inspired to visit a theme park, but it would surprise me if the same kids were inspired to go into palaeontology as a career. Genetics maybe...

[Jose S.M.]

I went to see the movie with 3 friends and my husband, regardless of their overall opinion on the movie everyone enjoyed at least one set piece but all of our favorite scenes involved the "regular" animals. D. Rex and mutadon scenes were bottom two for everyone, mostly because the lack of backstory for them. The regular animals don't need a complex background because it already exists but the weirdos could've use more lore around them.

[BlueKrono]

[/quote]Where the original JP was a love letter to palaeontology, the JW movies are...not. I could see how children watching 'D. rex', 'Mutadons', 'Indominus', and 'Indoraptor', would be inspired to visit a theme park, but it would surprise me if the same kids were inspired to go into palaeontology as a career. Genetics maybe...[/quote]

As a kid I was inspired by the prospect of regrowing limbs using reptile DNA by Marvel's The Lizard, but genetics ended up being too math-heavy for me. I ended up becoming a herpetologist instead.