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Haolonggood - New for 2025

Started by Halichoeres, January 03, 2025, 09:22:18 PM

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Faelrin

#2360
At least it isn't Mattel's cursed Iguanodon hand. But yeah that's a shocking mistake to see. Highly unfortunate, especially considering it is one of the most notable aspects about it. Maybe they can issue a revised version like they did for the Ouranosaurus. Edit: Even Disney's Dinosaur got this aspect correct, and that was 25 years ago!

Haolonggood definitely makes some beautiful models and of much needed species on the market, but I do wish they would improve with getting basic anatomical features down better (and avoid the repetitive colorations, but that's another thing).

There's no reason why Ouranosaurus, Maiasaura, and now this Iguanodon should have the anatomical issues that they do if more research was done prior to sculpting. I think it's frustrating to know something as decent as that Giganotosaurus gets the axe, but mistakes like these get put to market.
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Turkeysaurus

#2361
I don't understand some of these mistakes. Simple research on internet would reveal all these major details.

Those hands are also the most famous part of the animal.


Gwangi

I'm pretty forgiving of inaccuracies. I don't care about the head shape on this Iguanodon but the hands might be a dealbreaker. But it would also be easy to modify them. It's not something I've ever done or even like to do but if I'm going to buy my first Iguanodon toy in roughly 15 years it should probably have correct hands. Hopefully Haolonggood will do what they did with the Ouranosaurus. They make such excellent figures that inaccuracies like this are baffling.

SidB

Quote from: Gwangi on August 06, 2025, 03:51:11 PMI'm pretty forgiving of inaccuracies. I don't care about the head shape on this Iguanodon but the hands might be a dealbreaker. But it would also be easy to modify them. It's not something I've ever done or even like to do but if I'm going to buy my first Iguanodon toy in roughly 15 years it should probably have correct hands. Hopefully Haolonggood will do what they did with the Ouranosaurus. They make such excellent figures that inaccuracies like this are baffling.
That correction should be quite do-able. Go for it!

GojiraGuy1954

More for the rest of us I guess lmao
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Fembrogon

I agree that this is frustratingly ironic - Giga gets overhauled for seemingly one issue, but Iguanodon gets through with a key inaccuracy? Of course the Giga is a giant theropod, so it's probably vastly more popular and thus under more scrutiny by the collectors' base. It still seems unfair, though.
I love HLG's output, but I continue to wonder how diligent their research team really is. Some of these errors are real head-scratchers.

Paleo Flo

I wonder when we will hear something new from Dippy.

Do you think there will come a Patagotitan in near future?
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Quote from: Paleo Flo on August 07, 2025, 06:21:28 AMI wonder when we will hear something new from Dippy.

Do you think there will come a Patagotitan in near future?

I assume Dippy will drop soon. I really hope they don't do Patagotitan. Its just Argentinosaurus but 10 percent smaller. Do some unique giants like Supersaurus or Sauroposeidon. Heck, Id even like a Marapunnisaurus before Patagotitan, and its as scrappily preserved as they come.

Turkeysaurus

Quote from: Paleo Flo on August 07, 2025, 06:21:28 AMDo you think there will come a Patagotitan in near future?

If you mean upcoming large titanosaur that's more likely Ruyangosaurus now.

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Concavenator

Yeah, it's a bit of a bummer that HLG didn't get their Iguanodon's manus spot on - considering it's such a crucial part of the animal's anatomy (or the most important one?). And yes, HLG could certainly do some more research on their figures, I agree with avatar_Flaffy @Flaffy and avatar_Faelrin @Faelrin on that.

I also agree with the notion that if the Giganotosaurus apparently warranted some modification, so did other figures of theirs (more clearly so), like the previously mentioned Maiasaura and Ouranosaurus, as well as the Dilophosaurus and Amargasaurus. I still believe the Giga was quite promising; we'll see whether the upcoming version will actually prove to be an improvement or not - hopefully yes.

Personally, the extra claw on HLG's Iguanodon isn't a deak-breaker for me. The only Iguanodon figure with spot-on hands is one that gets criticised for its head - PNSO's. While it is true that Safari's and CollectA's Iguanodon figures don't have two hand spikes (that is, they have a claw on Digit I but appropriately lack one on Digit V), they have a claw on Digit IV when they shouldn't. So as far as their hands goes, they're not more inaccurate than HLG's, as they're all suffering from the same inaccuracy: one extra claw. I could see why the extra claw on D-V is more annoying than on D-IV, but Safari's and CollectA's Iguanodon are widely recognised as being really good Iguanodon figures (despite the aforementioned inaccuracy), so I consider HLG's to also be.

I understand and respect if for others the extra spike could be a deal-breaker, though.

Quote from: Paleo Flo on August 07, 2025, 06:21:28 AMDo you think there will come a Patagotitan in near future?

Surely yes, even after the upcoming Dreadnoughtus and Ruyangosaurus. Just as surely it'll be practically identical to their other big titanosaurs.

dragon53

#2371
Is the HLG Dreadnoughtus confirmed?

Flaffy

#2372
avatar_Concavenator @Concavenator  I personally find an extra ungual to be far less egregious than replacing what would've been a flexible digit into a hard spur. One is adding an unecessary feature, while the other is fundementally changing the structure of the underlying anatomy. I do not find them to be comaprable errors.


Concavenator

#2373
Quote from: dragon53 on August 07, 2025, 05:33:10 PMIs the HLG Dreadnoughtus confirmed?

I think so. The big sauropod from this teaser:



Should be Dreadnoughtus, as the silhouette was identified to belong to Christopher Chávez's:



And some time after that, Paleofiguras said that Ruyangosaurus is confirmed. So my understanding is that both Dreadnoughtus and Ruyangosaurus are coming. Which wouldn't surprise me, as HLG has proved by now that they have no issue in releasing several samey titanosaurs.

EDIT - Nevermind, the big sauropod from the teaser has an open mouth, must be cisiopurple's Dreadnoughtus, then:


Samrukia

Quote from: thomasw100 on January 17, 2025, 03:41:59 PMInterpreted version of the 2025 teaser image:



it's funny how we all thought that the silhouettes were just pictures or reconstructions from the internet but turned out to be actual silhouettes of the models

Sim

#2375
Regarding the hands of Iguanodon...

I get the impression the fifth fingers of the Haolonggood Iguanodon were not sculpted to be covered in a claw, it's just that the scales would be so fine on such a flexible finger that they are too small to see.  That's my guess anyway, it seems more likely to me than to make such a hard mistake to make.  The latter just doesn't seem realistic to me, and it's not the first time a claw was painted on a Haolonggood figure where it probably wouldn't be.  If the paint on the fifth finger bothers someone I think it would be simple to have one of the figure customisers repaint the finger so that it would be covered in skin.

As for a claw on the fourth finger, I know it's widely said in the prehistoric animal fan community that dinosaurs didn't have claws on the fourth and fifth fingers, but what is this actually based on?  I remember the Safari Prestosuchus was criticised for being an archosaur with claws on the fourth and fifth fingers, and that avatar_Doug Watson @Doug Watson then showed correspondence from a palaeontologist which said Postosuchus, I think it was, had claws on those fingers so the widely-held belief that all archosaurs lacked claws on those fingers wasn't true.  Plus I remember Darren Naish posted on Facebook about an ornithopod with a claw on one of those fingers.  So I'm not sure it's incorrect that the Safari and CollectA Iguanodon have a claw on the fourth finger.

crazy8wizard

The "Rule" of archosaurs not having claws on digits 4 and 5 comes from a pattern that emerges when comparing the hands of ceratopsians, ceratosaurids, and Crocodiles. Like you said though, there are many rauisuchians and a couple dinosaurs that have a 4th or even 5th digit claw. It's just one of those paleomemes that got spread really fast and interpreted as a rule rather than a trend (like rounded pterosaur wings or ceratopsian tail quills)

Carnoking

#2377
I wouldn't be at all surprised if the Dreadnoughtus silhouette is just a stand in for the Ruyangosaurus as the latter is all but confirmed and the former is merely conjecture. That, and as others have pointed out, the overall forms are largely interchangeable.

That being said, I also wouldn't be surprised if HlG does tackle a Dread down the line if not for name recognition alone. I'd personally take a Dreadnoughtus over Ruyangosaurus because, well, the name is so much cooler  ;D 

crazy8wizard

If Haolonggood can make a T. rex and a Daspletosaurus look visually distinct, there's no doubt that they can make 3 titanosaurs look visually distinct, even if they are incomplete.

Turkeysaurus

#2379
Would you pay for a Ruyangosaurus or 10 small dinosaurs?

I guess that's a good way to look at it if price is a concern.


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