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Jurassic World: Rebirth (July 2, 2025) 🦕

Started by Giganotosaurus, January 22, 2024, 08:12:19 PM

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Sim

Quote from: HD-man on February 05, 2025, 01:24:18 PMI figured it might be a similar situation to Dominion (I.e. IIRC, the artist made their best guess based on what they heard/read about the new designs without actually seeing them).
There was a text "leak" which said the Spinosaurus had an M-shaped sail.  Plus, if I remember right the colourations were said to be confirmed.

Quote from: HD-man on February 05, 2025, 01:24:18 PMWhy not just link to CoolioArt's video itself ( https://dinotoyblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=11764.msg386888#msg386888 )? No offense meant to | S4UR0 |, but the new sounds don't really match the visuals.
I don't agree the new sounds don't match the visuals, I think the resound version is an improvement over the original.


Pliosaurking

I too am not a fan of the mutant. Spinosaurus Mosasaurus team up is cool as is the Rex scene. Still I like the Jp3 Spinosaurus a lot better however than this new one.

suspsy

The new Spinosaurus is super ugly. Very disappointing.
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Stegotyranno420

This is slop. It has become so marvel-ized now. This is merely just an excuse to sell more toys at this point.
This will be the first JW movie I do NOT want to watch.

Sim

The thing I'm disappointed by is the frilled Dilophosaurus appearing again. :-\  Also, I guess my expectations for this film were too high, it doesn't look good to me in the trailer.

Torvosaurus

avatar_Stegotyranno420 @Stegotyranno420 Its about what I expected, actually, though I did have high hopes. I'll wait until it shows up on Max or Hulu or which ever station it shows up on tv.

IMO, the mutant looks like an early Roger Corman model, which would be a great thing for the late, great Mr. Corman but not so much for a JP film.

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Faelrin

I somehow only now realized the raptor in the tube has two heads after reading a thread about it on reddit. Of course I was instantly reminded of that Hyphalosaurus fossil afterwards.
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Gwangi

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There's a interesting idea here in that it looks like we're visiting an island that's basically "the land of misfit dinosaurs". Dinosaurs rejected by InGen. Why they wouldn't just be culled or used as food is whatever, I guess. Also, we're JUST NOW learning about ANOTHER secret island? Back on track though, an island of mutated Dr. Monroe style dinosaurs, that have been swept under the rug, and that exposes the horrors of genetic engineering, is a fun one to explore. But not like this. Give us something like the bear from Annihilation, something twisted and horrifying that's also obviously a botched specimen of a real animal. Alien: Resurrection did it better, and I rarely praise that movie. We could have had body horror with dinosaurs with this movie. Hell, make every dinosaur an "off version" of what was displayed in Jurassic Park and Jurassic World. If this is the route you want to take, go all in on it, but don't give us a rancor and tell us it is a mutated dinosaur.

Turkeysaurus

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They should just call it "Monsterous World"  Clearly they have no faith on dinosaurs.

Torvosaurus

Quote from: Gwangi on February 05, 2025, 08:08:27 PMThere's a interesting idea here in that it looks like we're visiting an island that's basically "the land of misfit dinosaurs". Dinosaurs rejected by InGen. Why they wouldn't just be culled or used as food is whatever, I guess. Also, we're JUST NOW learning about ANOTHER secret island? Back on track though, an island of mutated Dr. Monroe style dinosaurs, that have been swept under the rug, and that exposes the horrors of genetic engineering, is a fun one to explore. But not like this. Give us something like the bear from Annihilation, something twisted and horrifying that's also obviously a botched specimen of a real animal. Alien: Resurrection did it better, and I rarely praise that movie. We could have had body horror with dinosaurs with this movie. Hell, make every dinosaur an "off version" of what was displayed in Jurassic Park and Jurassic World. If this is the route you want to take, go all in on it, but don't give us a rancor and tell us it is a mutated dinosaur.

Yeah, it dawned on me that it does look a lot like a rancor after my last post. 🙂

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Paleo Flo

A big pile of sh...

Very disappointed
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First impressions are more positive than not. Gareth has certainly delivered in the visuals, like there was every any doubt. The colors and environments are beautiful, and the camerawork looks great. I'd post all of my favorite shots if I wasn't worried about clogging up the thread, but it's far in a way an improvement over the World trilogy. It doesn't really feel like those films either, which is good. By that same measure it doesn't feel like 93 or TLW, but don't dislike it. Gives me Skull Island vibes. The actual designs of the dinosaurs, however, are a mixed bag... (Spinosaurus  :-\ ) The characters all seem alright. If a few lines didn't make my eyes roll.

As for the new big bad, I really can't say I hate it. I think a botched cloning attempt resulting in a horrific monstrosity is both more interesting and more in line with the franchise than hybrids. Is it necessary? No. I know everyone is really tired of island setting. But Dominion butchered the mainland plot so hard that I don't blame this movie for ignoring it. Dinosaurs spreading across the globe unabated was so ridiculous it should have never been conceived. And traveling to a lost world full of monsters and ancient relics is a timeless premise, much older than the franchise itself. But perhaps it'd be compelling if they had to travel to the island in order to find a cure for a disease the dinosaurs on the continents were spreading (DX virus).

I knew Dominion would be terrible from the first trailer, and even then it was worse than anticipated. But nothing in Rebirth stands out to me as bad so far. I think it will be good. A competently made adventure / horror film with good direction and just maybe some other positives thrown on top.
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Pachyrhinosaurus

It looks like it'll be a fun movie, but it isn't Jurassic Park. It feels like the same type of film as Marvel and Fast and Furious-- with too much action and not much else. Others have pointed out recently that the characters in the new trilogy are very much action heroes, a far cry from the relatable, down-to-earth, "regular people" characters in the first film.

I wish Universal would go back to the basics and make a good film that isn't trying to be more over-the-top than the last thing. Make it an isolated story with a few relatable, everyman characters that have quality dialogue, perhaps ten or so dinosaurs that get 25 minutes of screentime, with maybe two or three major action scenes, but relying mostly on tension and buildup.

I'm not really sold on the dinosaur designs, either. I think it would make sense to have consistency and have the dinosaurs look like they did in previous films. Scientifically accurate dinosaurs would be nice, too, but I feel like going halfway like they are with the redesigns isn't working. Not sure how I feel about The Thing. I was expecting something between the indoraptor and the crystal palace megalosaurus with an extra pair of arms. It's a lot bigger than I expected, too. I don't see how a lab mistake like that could have survived 30 years on an island like it did.
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Faelrin

#393
avatar_Pachyrhinosaurus @Pachyrhinosaurus After reading your comment, I now lament they didn't just straight up give us a Crystal Palace Megalosaurus instead. Yeah fat chance of it happening, but it would have been a fun throwback.

For every one disappointed about the new mutant thing, does anyone remember the failed or abandoned clones from JPIII in the lab scene? Those were way better fitting to the franchise design wise. Edit: Or the new two headed raptor as well.





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Jose S.M.

I read a post where it was speculated that the mutant might have been the result of Ingen's inability to use the frog DNA to fill the missing gaps correctly in their first attempts. It would be an interesting answer but I doubt it is the case, seems to complex for the current writing on the franchise.

Protopatch

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Mmm... What else ? IDK

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Quote from: Jose S.M. on February 05, 2025, 09:25:29 PMI read a post where it was speculated that the mutant might have been the result of Ingen's inability to use the frog DNA to fill the missing gaps correctly in their first attempts. It would be an interesting answer but I doubt it is the case, seems to complex for the current writing on the franchise.

Maybe it will leap around like a frog, springing huge distances à la the Hulk in the MCU.  :))



Carnoking

I say, Waiter! There appears to be a Xenomorph in my Jurassic movie!

Jokes aside, man, a lot more harsh responses in this thread than I was expecting. Not that I disagree with a lot of the points raised but I certainly didn't think it was all bad. I can already tell what the actual plot is, something the first trailer for Dominion didn't really have to offer, and I'm enjoying the look of the film from a cinematography, production design, and color standpoint.

My biggest upset isn't even with the mutant monster (though I'll concede it's a bit too Alien for this franchise).
No, my biggest bummer is with those Spinos. From the image that dropped yesterday of the sails in the water, I really thought we might be getting some Mark Witton-esque designs and I was all for it. Then I saw the shot of the one grabbing the boat and my heart just sank. If the choice is between these One Million Years BC mutant rubber hand puppet designs and the OG spino in different colors like the rex, give me the Stan Winston creature any day.

Oh well, I'm sure I'll be buying a ticket when this releases, and it might be time for me to avoid this thread in the lead up to the film to avoid any more spoilers. Heck, social media spoiled most the trailer for me before I even got around to seeing it  :P

Gwangi

#398
Apparently, Gareth Edwards states in the Variety article that the mutant is inspired by the rancor, xenomorph, and T. rex. Yeah, I guess that tracks. The problem is that the rancor and xenomorphs are not dinosaurs, and certainly wouldn't be used in the creation of one.  ::)

I've been pretty negative so far but there are things in the trailer that I liked. As others have pointed out, the cinematography, color, and setting all look nice. I've also seen it said that the facility looks too futuristic for having been bult in the 1980's and I have to agree with that. But focusing on what looks good, I think that's a result of Edwards being the director. It's the story that looks like crap to me, and that would be Koepp's fault. I know a lot of people thought bringing him back would be a good thing but The Lost World is not a well written film and Koepp has other stinkers to his name, like Crystal Skull.

About the dinosaur designs. I'm happy to see Dilophosaurus return. Seeing as how it was absent from 4 of the 6 films I'll always get excited about its inclusion. The Quetz is a downgrade from the one we get in Dominion but not completely awful. The Spinosaurus is a mixed bag but the head design is far worse than the one from JP3. I like the new Tyrannosaurus. I wasn't even sure there would be a T. rex in the film and I'm alright with them staying loyal to the original design but making it clear that it's a new individual. I don't like the fins on the Titanosaurus. I find it odd that this island is supposed to be where the rejected dinosaurs got dumped but aside from the mutant I don't see anything about any of them that suggests they should be shunned and hidden away. Maybe their problems are more psychological than they are outwardly apparent.

Faelrin

Many of the points here I've already addressed in my prior comments, but figured I'd paste the comment I shared on Evosquare's trailer analysis video:

QuoteI think the sails on the Titanosaurus is a direct callback to the Titanosaurus kaiju which also has orange sails on it. A fun little connection.

I think it makes sense for the Quetzalcoatlus to be different. This is an early attempt from Ingen (at least what the Vanity Fair article seems to be suggesting), whereas the Dominion one is Biosyn's attempt. Alternatively could be a different pterosaur entirely. It also kind of reminds me of the old Kenner toy. Not the same obviously, but something about it just hits those vibes for me.

Fully agree with you on the mutant's design. It would have been better in a different movie, but not Jurassic. Things like that new two headed raptor, or those failed clones in the JPIII lab scene fits this franchise much better. It looks nothing like a failed attempt at a dinosaur, and is an obvious amalgamation of existing movie monsters (which the article spells it out). Heck even the Indominus rex, Scoprios Rex, and Indoraptor fit the bill better design wise for something like that.

Agreed about the Spinosaurus design as well. So close, but missed the mark in some ways. Aside from the coloration of the sail (which I do like, and there's even variation), the rest is a bland grey unfortunately. It has the crest, updated sail shape, and what appears to be the big paddle tail, but then they give it a short (and/or very thick) neck and a blatantly crocodile snout (like the FK Baryonyx). Spinosaurids (including Spinosaurus) typically had narrower snouts with different teeth placement then what you'd see on a crocodile. But on the other hand, from the Vanity Fair article, "These are the dinosaurs that didn't work. There's some mutations in there," Marshall says. "They're all based on real dinosaur research, but they look a little different." So it could very well have been intentional to have them off in some ways, like the Diplodocus like whip tail on the Titanosaurus, the crest shape of the Quetz (or other pterosaur), and the weird croc head of the Spinosaurus. I think that's in the spirit of the franchise, going back to the first novel, if not even the first film which the designs were largely up to date for the time, with some artistic license here and there (like the Dilophosaurus frill, and others). 

That said absolutely no complaints about the Mosasaurus. Definitely a major step in the right direct with the fluked tail and cutting out the croc scutes (or toning them down). It honestly vibes much better with the design direction of the original franchise's creatures too then the World's design
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