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Carnegie Collection Discontinued

Started by Dan, March 10, 2015, 09:15:08 PM

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Dan



Takama

MY models, will be forever tressured.      If it were not for this line, i would never have found this community or all the other Dinosaur toy brands out there.   Heres hoping we can get Great things from The Wild Safari Line, and see if a new museum will take Carnegies place.

tyrantqueen

Wow this is a surprise :-\ I can't imagine dinosaur collecting without the Carnegie series being around.

Thanks for the memories.

CityRaptor

#3
I'm speechless. Although could that be the reason why they only released one or two new figures the last years?
Funny that they would mention JP, given that all Safari figures in that one were Carnegies.

The Carnegie Collection had a great run and will be missed.
Jurassic Park is frightning in the dark
All the dinosaurs are running wild
Someone let T. Rex out of his pen
I'm afraid those things'll harm me
'Cause they sure don't act like Barney
And they think that I'm their dinner, not their friend
Oh no

DinoLord

I'm sad to see the Carnegie line end. The Carnegie figures were some of my favorites as a kid, and were a big part of what got me into collecting from a young age. However I can't say I'm surprised - to me the inspiration behind the line was waning in recent years.

suspsy

This is most unfortunate. Like many, if not ALL of the people here, I grew up with the Carnegie Collection. I've seen their toys change and evolve and improve over the years, and they've brought me quite a lot of happiness.

At the same time, this honestly doesn't come as a huge surprise. It must have been difficult for Safari to maintain a line where they have to work with the Carnegie museum in order to produce each figure. I guess they concluded it just wasn't worth the trouble anymore.

And it's not a total tragedy, given how great the Wild Safari line has become. :)

Still, I would have really loved to have seen a new Carnegie Triceratops in 2016.

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Simon

Well, I know that some of you may disagree with me here, but here is my take on this news:

Carnegie probably chose to bow out because the competition in the field of high-quality, accurate dinosaur toy figures has expanded significantly in the past 5 years or so, and that no doubt lowered their profit margin significantly. 

Collecta vaulted to #1 in terms of both volume and quality in just 7 years or so, Battat is being re-introduced, and the Wild Safari line has also come to the front, vaulting over its older sibling thanks to the cutting-edge talents of Doug Watson.

Not to mention the high-quality competition from Papo and even that recently introduced Papo-look-alike "is it a toy or a statue" company that seems to use dubious propaganda methods to draw attention to its wares.

Carnegie has been stagnating for the better part of a decade, producing sculpts in varying scales, of varying quality, thus satisfying no one, and undoubtedly that took a toll on the bottom line.

I was vilified numerous times over the years whenever I dared to question the dinosaur-sculpting talents of Carnegie's sculptor.  Every excuse in the book was made for the repeated shortcomings in their theropod figures, but the fact of the matter is that, compared to the competition, the accuracy of Carnegie's sculpts was tested over the past 6-7 years and has - apparently - been found to be wanting.

Being known as "THE" dino-toy brand for so many years probably lulled some folks into a false sense of security.

In any event, its nothing more than basic business cycle stuff.  Evolution, competition, survival of the fittest.  Carnegie now goes the way of Bullyland and Schleich.  Such is life.

Better to enjoy the plethora of first rate figures coming out from a half-dozen companies, than mourn the passing of a *pun intended* DINOSAUR.




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suspsy

QuoteIn any event, its nothing more than basic business cycle stuff.  Evolution, competition, survival of the fittest.  Carnegie now goes the way of Bullyland and Schleich.

Schleich??
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CityRaptor

Unless Simon refers to specifically the Replica-Saurus line, Carnegie is not going the way of Schleich.
Jurassic Park is frightning in the dark
All the dinosaurs are running wild
Someone let T. Rex out of his pen
I'm afraid those things'll harm me
'Cause they sure don't act like Barney
And they think that I'm their dinner, not their friend
Oh no

tanystropheus

#10
This is sad. I've had a feeling that something like this would happen, especially with Wild Safari eclipsing them over the last few years (and Carnegie was meant to be Safari Ltd.'s premier collector's line). At least they ended with something of a swan song--although the pose is static (akin to Favorite), the Carnegie Velociraptor is beautiful in design and execution (marvelous colors). The Carnegie Tylosaurus was largely responsible for getting me back into dinosaur toy collecting (after a near 20 year hiatus) and joining DTF. I will remember them.

-tanystropheus

Patrx

On the one hand, this is distressing. But, the recent figures from the Wild Safari line have been really outstanding. If cutting ties with the Carnegie Museum means that Safari can devote more resources to their original line, I think it'll be worthwhile. Also, the latter part of that press release does make it seem like they have some new things planned. With any luck, we may even continue to see pieces sculpted by Forest Rogers, in spite of the change.

Roselaar

Very sad news, though I feared it would come to this sooner rather than later, considering Carnegie's diminishing output and quality. :(

Still, 25 years of great model making and respect for scientific accuracy to be fondly remembered! Hopefully Safari Ltd. will find another partner to produce a similar line. If not, we still have the regular Wild Safari line.


suspsy

I'd be perfectly fine with Wild Safari being their only dinosaur line.
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SBell

Quote from: CityRaptor on March 10, 2015, 10:53:04 PM
Unless Simon refers to specifically the Replica-Saurus line, Carnegie is not going the way of Schleich.

I'm assuming that he is, indeed referring to how both Bullyland and Schleich (and Battat, don't forget) ceased working with museums.

And really, the only resources from Safari were production--planning and design are much more involved, and Safari Ltd did none of that for Carnegie.

John

#15
Well,there goes one of the best lines out there...but on the plus side,we still have the Wild Safari Prehistoric World series which has jumped up in quality to the point of being able to stand favorably alongside the best out there :)

Also,don't be too surprised to see a whole new main dinosaur line turn up soon.Last time Safari discontinued a major line (the Vanishing Wild line) they released the Wildlife Wonders series the following year. Imagine a new dinosaur line in that style?A large sized Ceratosaurus nasicornis by Doug Watson in that larger scale would be fantastic to see. ;D
Don't you hate it when you legitimately compliment someone's mustache and she gets angry with you?

EmperorDinobot

#16
THIS

is my response.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QyaDlIirJnw


There is no greater pain that could have been brought forth in terms of dino-collecting.


Didn't I say something about this a few weeks back, about how they were on their way out? I hate being right all the time.

But the pain, it seriously hurts.

Daspletodave

I am aware that Bullyland has announced a hiatus for 2015 - but that does not mean they have cancelled their museum line (which is now the LAST one standing). Too bad for the Carnegie Museum Line but all good things must come to an end, and they did have an exceptionally long run. This just proves that museums and toy companies can't get along anymore. That press release makes it clear that it was Safari Ltd that pulled the plug on the relationship. It will be interesting to see what develops.

DinoToyForum

#18
This is sad news, but it also makes sense for Safari Ltd to simplify their overall range. I also look forward to seeing what partnerships Safari Ltd develop in the future, and what this means for the direction of their other current lines.



Takama

I just hope they can diversify there Wild Safari line more, and give it animals that were once exclusive to the Carnegie Collection (Come on Safari, let Doug make a Concavenator)

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