JURASSIC WORLD: DOMINION

[GojiraGuy1954]

We have Camp Cretaceous to cater for that demographic, just leave the mainline to the adults. It's a win win situation.

The movies have never been exclusively for adults. Why should they be? And what about the adults who enjoy the movies for what they are?

It's not like fixing some accuracy would kill the joy, if anything it could be more entertaining and worth remembering if done right. So why wouldn't you pursue a better movie?

A movie could have the most accurate dinosaurs imaginable and still be awful. Re; WWD 3D.

[bone crusher]

FK is such a huge disappointment due to the lackluster second half, it's JP3 territory bad. I do wish Spielberg would return directing for once more.

[PumperKrickel]

It's not like fixing some accuracy would kill the joy, if anything it could be more entertaining and worth remembering if done right. So why wouldn't you pursue a better movie? 

Are they not introducing the first feathered prehistoric creatures of the franchise in this next movie? That's fixing some accuracy! How is that not exactly what you want?

For most people more accuracy doesn't equal more entertaining and better. Movies aren't documentaries.

[Gwangi]

Universal cared too much about pleasing the 12-13 year olds these days so don't expect decent story telling, character development, dinosaur accuracy, logic and consistency when you see the next JW. For all we know even an Allosaurus could kill a T.rex if some executive woke up on the wrong side of the bed one day and decides it that way. Also since most of those dinos in the movie are way over sized and dis-proportioned from the real animal anyway, why not go even bigger, why not give us a mini Godzilla sized Argentinasaurus, an eventual 50m long Mosasaurus or a 20m long new big bad theropod? I'm sure 13 year olds would love the new super-sized version of the real animal, not that they would know anyway coz Collin Trevorrow says they are "real".

The movies have always been aimed at 13 year-olds, 13 year-olds like dinosaurs. But I find it ironic that you're calling out these films as being kid movies while also worrying about which dinosaur should win in a fight. 

[SRF]

Universal cared too much about pleasing the 12-13 year olds these days so don't expect decent story telling, character development, dinosaur accuracy, logic and consistency when you see the next JW. For all we know even an Allosaurus could kill a T.rex if some executive woke up on the wrong side of the bed one day and decides it that way. Also since most of those dinos in the movie are way over sized and dis-proportioned from the real animal anyway, why not go even bigger, why not give us a mini Godzilla sized Argentinasaurus, an eventual 50m long Mosasaurus or a 20m long new big bad theropod? I'm sure 13 year olds would love the new super-sized version of the real animal, not that they would know anyway coz Collin Trevorrow says they are "real".

The movies have always been aimed at 13 year-olds, 13 year-olds like dinosaurs. But I find it ironic that you're calling out these films as being kid movies while also worrying about which dinosaur should win in a fight. 

Now I wonder how old B @bone crusher was when the first JP movie was released and if he liked it back then.

[Duna]

Now I wonder how old B @bone crusher was when the first JP movie was released and if he liked it back then.

In my case I watched it when I was 11 (I saw it twice that night at the cinema, that's how much I liked it). Every time I saw it on TV, I watched it again. I bought the VHS and saw it probably more than 200 times. I have watched it also in the original version (English) recently, about 10 times more. I liked a lot, too, like watching it again.
I've watched all JP franchise at the cinema, I even went alone to JP3. I've rewatched them all only once more again at home (to see if I had missed something and they were as bad as I recalled). In Jurassic World people at the cinema were laughing so hard that I did want very much to see that at home in case I'had missed the jokes (not the case) so I rewatched it 1,5 times. I only saw Dominion once at the cinema and I don't plan to watch it again, enough. Although I like J.A. Bayona's films very much, that didn't mixed well in such absurd plot.

JP is one of those movies that you can enjoy every minute of it, not wanting to fast forward, even when the characters are simply talking and debating between them. There aren't any worthy conversations in any of the rest.

[Fembrogon]

I wasn't even FIVE when I was first shown (part of?) The Lost World: Jurassic Park. I've literally grown up watching these films and admiring them as a dinosaur enthusiast, even if the violence sometimes frightened me when I was little.
I sympathize with the frustration that the Jurassic has become such a schlocky shadow of itself; but as previously mentioned by others in this thread, maybe the deeper issue is just the fact that there's so little GOOD dinosaur media to compare with (at least on this production scale - shout-out to Dead Sound's Dinosauria miniseries). JP/JW is the sole major dino-related IP* for mainstream audiences, and nothing since the WWD docu-drama film has even been attempted, iirc. If there were a few more shows or films being released and getting attention - for being GOOD, not just for featuring dinosaurs - then JW's shortcomings would probably be more palatable.

*I realize I'm only considering film & television with this statement; ARK certainly has a strong presence in the video game market, but that's a whole other can of worms I'm not even qualified to address.

[bone crusher]

Universal cared too much about pleasing the 12-13 year olds these days so don't expect decent story telling, character development, dinosaur accuracy, logic and consistency when you see the next JW. For all we know even an Allosaurus could kill a T.rex if some executive woke up on the wrong side of the bed one day and decides it that way. Also since most of those dinos in the movie are way over sized and dis-proportioned from the real animal anyway, why not go even bigger, why not give us a mini Godzilla sized Argentinasaurus, an eventual 50m long Mosasaurus or a 20m long new big bad theropod? I'm sure 13 year olds would love the new super-sized version of the real animal, not that they would know anyway coz Collin Trevorrow says they are "real".

The movies have always been aimed at 13 year-olds, 13 year-olds like dinosaurs. But I find it ironic that you're calling out these films as being kid movies while also worrying about which dinosaur should win in a fight. 

Why is that ironic? Animals fight in the natural world and as long as they're depicted accurately then people wouldn't be offended. You don't want a wolf lose to a tiger now do you?

[Gwangi]

Universal cared too much about pleasing the 12-13 year olds these days so don't expect decent story telling, character development, dinosaur accuracy, logic and consistency when you see the next JW. For all we know even an Allosaurus could kill a T.rex if some executive woke up on the wrong side of the bed one day and decides it that way. Also since most of those dinos in the movie are way over sized and dis-proportioned from the real animal anyway, why not go even bigger, why not give us a mini Godzilla sized Argentinasaurus, an eventual 50m long Mosasaurus or a 20m long new big bad theropod? I'm sure 13 year olds would love the new super-sized version of the real animal, not that they would know anyway coz Collin Trevorrow says they are "real".

The movies have always been aimed at 13 year-olds, 13 year-olds like dinosaurs. But I find it ironic that you're calling out these films as being kid movies while also worrying about which dinosaur should win in a fight. 

Why is that ironic? Animals fight in the natural world and as long as they're depicted accurately then people wouldn't be offended. You don't want a wolf lose to a tiger now do you?

Generally speaking, dinosaur fights and who would win in one are the concerns of children. It is known. I was definitely more interested in dinosaur fights when I was 13 than I am now. And although I still enjoy a good on-screen dinosaur battle the outcome is of little consequence. And when it comes to dinosaurs, or animals in general, "who would win in a fight" is just about the least interesting thing I can think of.

[bone crusher]

Universal cared too much about pleasing the 12-13 year olds these days so don't expect decent story telling, character development, dinosaur accuracy, logic and consistency when you see the next JW. For all we know even an Allosaurus could kill a T.rex if some executive woke up on the wrong side of the bed one day and decides it that way. Also since most of those dinos in the movie are way over sized and dis-proportioned from the real animal anyway, why not go even bigger, why not give us a mini Godzilla sized Argentinasaurus, an eventual 50m long Mosasaurus or a 20m long new big bad theropod? I'm sure 13 year olds would love the new super-sized version of the real animal, not that they would know anyway coz Collin Trevorrow says they are "real".

The movies have always been aimed at 13 year-olds, 13 year-olds like dinosaurs. But I find it ironic that you're calling out these films as being kid movies while also worrying about which dinosaur should win in a fight. 

Why is that ironic? Animals fight in the natural world and as long as they're depicted accurately then people wouldn't be offended. You don't want a wolf lose to a tiger now do you?

Generally speaking, dinosaur fights and who would win in one are the concerns of children. It is known. I was definitely more interested in dinosaur fights when I was 13 than I am now. And although I still enjoy a good on-screen dinosaur battle the outcome is of little consequence. And when it comes to dinosaurs, or animals in general, "who would win in a fight" is just about the least interesting thing I can think of.

Why is it for kids only? Because JP/JW are PG rated? Imagine those movies are M or R rated for extreme animal violence just like in real life. Imagine dinosaurs are alive today you'll bet your a** adults would monetize them for all kinds of sports. Be it Gallimimus racing or giant theropod pit fight etc. It is beyond naive to think dinosaur fighting are mainly for kids.

[KeU]

Speaking of the movies' PG rating, I assume that is why they keep going with the neck snap.
No way they can show the bone crushing and cavity collapsing that a Tyrannosaurus bite can eventually induce.
Or the gaping open wounds and blood loss that a Giganotosaurus can cause.

[SRF]

Universal cared too much about pleasing the 12-13 year olds these days so don't expect decent story telling, character development, dinosaur accuracy, logic and consistency when you see the next JW. For all we know even an Allosaurus could kill a T.rex if some executive woke up on the wrong side of the bed one day and decides it that way. Also since most of those dinos in the movie are way over sized and dis-proportioned from the real animal anyway, why not go even bigger, why not give us a mini Godzilla sized Argentinasaurus, an eventual 50m long Mosasaurus or a 20m long new big bad theropod? I'm sure 13 year olds would love the new super-sized version of the real animal, not that they would know anyway coz Collin Trevorrow says they are "real".

The movies have always been aimed at 13 year-olds, 13 year-olds like dinosaurs. But I find it ironic that you're calling out these films as being kid movies while also worrying about which dinosaur should win in a fight. 

Why is that ironic? Animals fight in the natural world and as long as they're depicted accurately then people wouldn't be offended. You don't want a wolf lose to a tiger now do you?

Wolfs and tigers don't live 30 million years apart from each other.

The fact that any dinosaur fight in the JP/JW franchise is between animals that didn't live in the same time and place makes them entirely fictional to begin with. Now from what we know of these animals we can have an idea of what animal could have an advantage over another, but there is no such thing as an accurate depiction of a fight between a T.Rex and a Spinosaurus/Giganotosaurus/Velociraptor or any other hybrid animal.

Because none of these animals met in real life, any fight between dinosaur X and dinosaur Y can play out just the way the film director wants it to. It's called storytelling and movie making.

[GojiraGuy1954]

Universal cared too much about pleasing the 12-13 year olds these days so don't expect decent story telling, character development, dinosaur accuracy, logic and consistency when you see the next JW. For all we know even an Allosaurus could kill a T.rex if some executive woke up on the wrong side of the bed one day and decides it that way. Also since most of those dinos in the movie are way over sized and dis-proportioned from the real animal anyway, why not go even bigger, why not give us a mini Godzilla sized Argentinasaurus, an eventual 50m long Mosasaurus or a 20m long new big bad theropod? I'm sure 13 year olds would love the new super-sized version of the real animal, not that they would know anyway coz Collin Trevorrow says they are "real".

The movies have always been aimed at 13 year-olds, 13 year-olds like dinosaurs. But I find it ironic that you're calling out these films as being kid movies while also worrying about which dinosaur should win in a fight. 

Why is that ironic? Animals fight in the natural world and as long as they're depicted accurately then people wouldn't be offended. You don't want a wolf lose to a tiger now do you?

A tiger would unironically rip a wolf to pieces in a one on one encounter

[BlueKrono]

Universal cared too much about pleasing the 12-13 year olds these days so don't expect decent story telling, character development, dinosaur accuracy, logic and consistency when you see the next JW. For all we know even an Allosaurus could kill a T.rex if some executive woke up on the wrong side of the bed one day and decides it that way. Also since most of those dinos in the movie are way over sized and dis-proportioned from the real animal anyway, why not go even bigger, why not give us a mini Godzilla sized Argentinasaurus, an eventual 50m long Mosasaurus or a 20m long new big bad theropod? I'm sure 13 year olds would love the new super-sized version of the real animal, not that they would know anyway coz Collin Trevorrow says they are "real".

Wait til they learn about Amphicoelias/ Maraapunisaurus...

[Giganotosaurus]

I love that we have dinosaur fights in these movies, they're like my favorite scenes. I want them to get as crazy as they can get. I would love an Allosaurus vs Carnotaurus fight scene.
And also, the Jurassic movies will always be for families, which is good because I want kids to be able to enjoy them like I did.

[GojiraGuy1954]

Universal cared too much about pleasing the 12-13 year olds these days so don't expect decent story telling, character development, dinosaur accuracy, logic and consistency when you see the next JW. For all we know even an Allosaurus could kill a T.rex if some executive woke up on the wrong side of the bed one day and decides it that way. Also since most of those dinos in the movie are way over sized and dis-proportioned from the real animal anyway, why not go even bigger, why not give us a mini Godzilla sized Argentinasaurus, an eventual 50m long Mosasaurus or a 20m long new big bad theropod? I'm sure 13 year olds would love the new super-sized version of the real animal, not that they would know anyway coz Collin Trevorrow says they are "real".

Wait til they learn about Amphicoelias/ Maraapunisaurus...

Maraapunisaurus is not a valid "biggest dinosaur" considering the only bones literally disintegrated

[Stegotyranno420]

Universal cared too much about pleasing the 12-13 year olds these days so don't expect decent story telling, character development, dinosaur accuracy, logic and consistency when you see the next JW. For all we know even an Allosaurus could kill a T.rex if some executive woke up on the wrong side of the bed one day and decides it that way. Also since most of those dinos in the movie are way over sized and dis-proportioned from the real animal anyway, why not go even bigger, why not give us a mini Godzilla sized Argentinasaurus, an eventual 50m long Mosasaurus or a 20m long new big bad theropod? I'm sure 13 year olds would love the new super-sized version of the real animal, not that they would know anyway coz Collin Trevorrow says they are "real".

The movies have always been aimed at 13 year-olds, 13 year-olds like dinosaurs. But I find it ironic that you're calling out these films as being kid movies while also worrying about which dinosaur should win in a fight. 

Why is that ironic? Animals fight in the natural world and as long as they're depicted accurately then people wouldn't be offended. You don't want a wolf lose to a tiger now do you?

A tiger would unironically rip a wolf to pieces in a one on one encounter

bUt A wOLf hAS a StTronGer BiTeForCE lol 
On a more serious note, what will you say is the biggest "valid"dinosaur? Argentinosaurus I assume. But that is also considered fragmented by some

[GojiraGuy1954]

Universal cared too much about pleasing the 12-13 year olds these days so don't expect decent story telling, character development, dinosaur accuracy, logic and consistency when you see the next JW. For all we know even an Allosaurus could kill a T.rex if some executive woke up on the wrong side of the bed one day and decides it that way. Also since most of those dinos in the movie are way over sized and dis-proportioned from the real animal anyway, why not go even bigger, why not give us a mini Godzilla sized Argentinasaurus, an eventual 50m long Mosasaurus or a 20m long new big bad theropod? I'm sure 13 year olds would love the new super-sized version of the real animal, not that they would know anyway coz Collin Trevorrow says they are "real".

The movies have always been aimed at 13 year-olds, 13 year-olds like dinosaurs. But I find it ironic that you're calling out these films as being kid movies while also worrying about which dinosaur should win in a fight. 

Why is that ironic? Animals fight in the natural world and as long as they're depicted accurately then people wouldn't be offended. You don't want a wolf lose to a tiger now do you?

A tiger would unironically rip a wolf to pieces in a one on one encounter

bUt A wOLf hAS a StTronGer BiTeForCE lol 
On a more serious note, what will you say is the biggest "valid"dinosaur? Argentinosaurus I assume. But that is also considered fragmented by some

tigers have the stronger bite

[GojiraGuy1954]

Universal cared too much about pleasing the 12-13 year olds these days so don't expect decent story telling, character development, dinosaur accuracy, logic and consistency when you see the next JW. For all we know even an Allosaurus could kill a T.rex if some executive woke up on the wrong side of the bed one day and decides it that way. Also since most of those dinos in the movie are way over sized and dis-proportioned from the real animal anyway, why not go even bigger, why not give us a mini Godzilla sized Argentinasaurus, an eventual 50m long Mosasaurus or a 20m long new big bad theropod? I'm sure 13 year olds would love the new super-sized version of the real animal, not that they would know anyway coz Collin Trevorrow says they are "real".

The movies have always been aimed at 13 year-olds, 13 year-olds like dinosaurs. But I find it ironic that you're calling out these films as being kid movies while also worrying about which dinosaur should win in a fight. 

Why is that ironic? Animals fight in the natural world and as long as they're depicted accurately then people wouldn't be offended. You don't want a wolf lose to a tiger now do you?

A tiger would unironically rip a wolf to pieces in a one on one encounter

bUt A wOLf hAS a StTronGer BiTeForCE lol 
On a more serious note, what will you say is the biggest "valid"dinosaur? Argentinosaurus I assume. But that is also considered fragmented by some

probably argent or dreadnoughtus

[BlueKrono]

Universal cared too much about pleasing the 12-13 year olds these days so don't expect decent story telling, character development, dinosaur accuracy, logic and consistency when you see the next JW. For all we know even an Allosaurus could kill a T.rex if some executive woke up on the wrong side of the bed one day and decides it that way. Also since most of those dinos in the movie are way over sized and dis-proportioned from the real animal anyway, why not go even bigger, why not give us a mini Godzilla sized Argentinasaurus, an eventual 50m long Mosasaurus or a 20m long new big bad theropod? I'm sure 13 year olds would love the new super-sized version of the real animal, not that they would know anyway coz Collin Trevorrow says they are "real".

The movies have always been aimed at 13 year-olds, 13 year-olds like dinosaurs. But I find it ironic that you're calling out these films as being kid movies while also worrying about which dinosaur should win in a fight. 

Why is that ironic? Animals fight in the natural world and as long as they're depicted accurately then people wouldn't be offended. You don't want a wolf lose to a tiger now do you?

A tiger would unironically rip a wolf to pieces in a one on one encounter

bUt A wOLf hAS a StTronGer BiTeForCE lol 
On a more serious note, what will you say is the biggest "valid"dinosaur? Argentinosaurus I assume. But that is also considered fragmented by some

Ooh! I made a list last week:
Barosaurus 148
Supersaurus 128-131
Maraapunisaurus 115-131
Bruhathkayosaurus 121
Argentinosaurus 115
Mamenchisaurus 115
Sauroposeidon 89-112
Patagotitan 102
Antarctosaurus 100