JURASSIC WORLD: DOMINION

[ITdactyl]

Manuel Bejarano altered his Concavenator clip to look like it was part of the Dominion Cretaceous sequence.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UH-hm2iFey8

The original can be found here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdG1sLv7ovE

[bone crusher]

I'm pretty sure tyrannosaurus had thinner, less dense bones, it was a coelurosaur. Besides, the giganotosaur may not have stronger bite force, but still had more power. The way the jaw was built was specialized for slashing , and will deliver punch more than a crunch

Nope. Sue outclasses Giga in almost every way except the forelimbs. Scotty and Trix may be even bigger than Sue for the record.
T.Rex Sue
https://www.deviantart.com/franoys/journal/Tyrannosaurus-rex-size-682386614
Giga
https://www.deviantart.com/franoys/journal/A-mathematical-analysis-on-Giganotosaurus-mass-659861738
Even Scott Hartman agrees T Rex has stronger legs.
https://www.skeletaldrawing.com/home/mass-estimates-north-vs-south-redux772013

The problem with Giganotosaurus is that it was pushed in the media as the dinosaur that would dethrone T. Rex, by using the upper estimates of its researched size while there wasn't a complete specimen to begin with.

So now we're stuck with overestimated sizes for Giganotosaurus for the general public, while in the mean time palaeontologists are still doing their research on an animal that was most likely about as tall and long as any mega theropod, nothing more nothing less. My biggest gripe with JW Dominion is that this movie won't help the general public to learn anything new compared to 20 or so years ago.

Yeah, very unfortunate. I just hope they don't oversize the Giga too much when fighting Rexy, these days Hollywood would go out of their way just to find something that would overshadow the T.Rex, first the steroid fueled Spino that resembles nothing like the real animal even with the longer legs at the time, then the genetic cocktail of a hybrid monster known as Indominus Rex and this time a Giga with fantasy upper bound estimate? Yep, Hollywood is gonna Hollywood.

[Dinoxels]

The biggest  issue  for me is that  the  so called  accurate  rex is the same  old  inaccurate  jp  design  as before  just with feathers  tossed  ,and  has the same  inaccuracies

I still can't believe anyone actually thought they would get an "accurate" T.rex or Velociraptor in a JP/JW film. Universal has well established these designs as characters. They will never change them to the point they are unrecognizable as their creation/property.  Just like Iron Man putting on a new suit of armor, it's still Iron Man.

I think he's referring to the "prehistoric" Rexy. If that design was completely accurate it still wouldn't change much. Just when Ingen re-creates her she looks different. Now straight up retconning her design mid-series in the present to an accurate design is just utter nonsense.

[Carnoking]

At the end of the day, I think just putting fuzz of the rex is a massive deal for a film as wide-reaching as this. Sure, the integument (along with other features) may not be accurate on the rex, Oviraptor, or even the Moros but at the same time I think even somewhat feathering a character as iconic as the Jurassic Park rex is going to be a huge help in launching feathered dinosaurs into the mainstream.

[Blade-of-the-Moon]

The biggest  issue  for me is that  the  so called  accurate  rex is the same  old  inaccurate  jp  design  as before  just with feathers  tossed  ,and  has the same  inaccuracies

I still can't believe anyone actually thought they would get an "accurate" T.rex or Velociraptor in a JP/JW film. Universal has well established these designs as characters. They will never change them to the point they are unrecognizable as their creation/property.  Just like Iron Man putting on a new suit of armor, it's still Iron Man.

I think he's referring to the "prehistoric" Rexy. If that design was completely accurate it still wouldn't change much. Just when Ingen re-creates her she looks different. Now straight up retconning her design mid-series in the present to an accurate design is just utter nonsense.

It would have changed what they are doing story wise if they had changed it, the prehistoric version is supposed to be the character "Rexy" to tell a story of how she died, where her DNA came from, then they switch to her clone in the present day and tie the story together.  Treverrow said there is a story here probably how she will come face to face with the Giganotosaurus again for a rematch.

At the end of the day, I think just putting fuzz of the rex is a massive deal for a film as wide-reaching as this. Sure, the integument (along with other features) may not be accurate on the rex, Oviraptor, or even the Moros but at the same time I think even somewhat feathering a character as iconic as the Jurassic Park rex is going to be a huge help in launching feathered dinosaurs into the mainstream.

I'm sure it will have some impact, not sure to what degree, but there it is.  I don't see the Jurassic films as teaching so much as entertaining, but after seeing the first film I wanted to see all the dinosaurs I could which drove me to books, museums, ect..where I did find much better info. I think that's the point everyone misses.

[GojiraGuy1954]

Manuel Bejarano altered his Concavenator clip to look like it was part of the Dominion Cretaceous sequence.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UH-hm2iFey8

The original can be found here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdG1sLv7ovE

It actually fooled me when I first saw it, because the leak that was right about JWE2 said the game would have a Concavenator

[KeU]

I'm pretty sure tyrannosaurus had thinner, less dense bones, it was a coelurosaur. Besides, the giganotosaur may not have stronger bite force, but still had more power. The way the jaw was built was specialized for slashing , and will deliver punch more than a crunch

Nope. Sue outclasses Giga in almost every way except the forelimbs. Scotty and Trix may be even bigger than Sue for the record.
T.Rex Sue
https://www.deviantart.com/franoys/journal/Tyrannosaurus-rex-size-682386614
Giga
https://www.deviantart.com/franoys/journal/A-mathematical-analysis-on-Giganotosaurus-mass-659861738
Even Scott Hartman agrees T Rex has stronger legs.
https://www.skeletaldrawing.com/home/mass-estimates-north-vs-south-redux772013

Again, you need to define outclass.
We know Giganotosaurus can deliver quicker bites than Tyrannosaurus.
It can bite at a much higher frequency and expend less energy doing so.
That is outclass in my books.
It is easy to get carried away with the allure of strength and mass.
That is not everything.
I blame the media and superheroes for pushing that, having everyone too focused on mass gains and short duration strength.
(I guess I am one of them since I lift regularly.)

But I agree on the references though, it makes sense that a heavier animal will have more structure to support the mass.
Scotty should be very similar to Sue. There is quite a bit of variance in their bones.
Scotty has a surprising small mandible.

[GojiraGuy1954]

I'm pretty sure tyrannosaurus had thinner, less dense bones, it was a coelurosaur. Besides, the giganotosaur may not have stronger bite force, but still had more power. The way the jaw was built was specialized for slashing , and will deliver punch more than a crunch

Nope. Sue outclasses Giga in almost every way except the forelimbs. Scotty and Trix may be even bigger than Sue for the record.
T.Rex Sue
https://www.deviantart.com/franoys/journal/Tyrannosaurus-rex-size-682386614
Giga
https://www.deviantart.com/franoys/journal/A-mathematical-analysis-on-Giganotosaurus-mass-659861738
Even Scott Hartman agrees T Rex has stronger legs.
https://www.skeletaldrawing.com/home/mass-estimates-north-vs-south-redux772013

Again, you need to define outclass.
We know Giganotosaurus can deliver quicker bites than Tyrannosaurus.
It can bite at a much higher frequency and expend less energy doing so.
That is outclass in my books.
It is easy to get carried away with the allure of strength and mass.
That is not everything.
I blame the media and superheroes for pushing that, having everyone too focused on mass gains and short duration strength.
(I guess I am one of them since I lift regularly.)

But I agree on the references though, it makes sense that a heavier animal will have more structure to support the mass.
Scotty should be very similar to Sue. There is quite a bit of variance in their bones.
Scotty has a surprising small mandible.

Giga bites faster, but it needs multiple to seriously injure a Tyrannosaur, and time is the ultimate killer. Tyrannosaurus can cripple with a single bite.

[KeU]

Giga bites faster, but it needs multiple to seriously injure a Tyrannosaur, and time is the ultimate killer. Tyrannosaurus can cripple with a single bite.

Yep, that is definitely truth in that.
Tyrannosaurus can potentially cripple prey in a single bite.
There is a time factor in that too.
We don't know how long it would take to master up the 6 tons of max bite force.
And if it can always bite at max strength.

On the flip side, a single slashing bite from Giganotosaurus might be enough too.
All it's got to do is back off and not get into a risky exchange.

[Faelrin]

Not that I have a dog in this race (or large theropod I guess), but T. rex was also strong enough to remove the head of a Triceratops. Combined with the bite force it had, it is not something I've ever want to mess with (if I was a large theropod). If only they would address that in the next film. Honestly I'm kind of surprised they haven't taken the opportunity to jump on that.

[GojiraGuy1954]

Tyrannosaurus can potentially cripple prey in a single bite.

If the Giga's leg is broken then it 100% is dead. Next bite will be to the back of the skull

[HD-man]

So much inaccuracies in this video lol. Giga did not have a bigger thigh nor as strong as a T Rex's. Sue and Scotty have thicker thigh bones and much wider pelvic bones which most certainly give it more muscular, thicker and more powerful legs than the Giga. Both those T Rex specimens are heavier than Giga by a wide margin, even some smaller T Rex specimens like the Holotype, AMH5027 and Stan are heavier than Giga. The overall volume of a T Rex skull is also larger so it's wrong for them to say Giga's skull is larger, maybe longer than a dew CM but definitely not larger overall.
Oh well, when you wanna sell your product you gotta do what you gotta do by blowing it out of proportion and watering down the T rex.

So many inaccuracies in the above quote 1stly, they explain in the video that they mean bigger in length, in which case, Giga does have bigger thighs & a bigger skull. 2ndly, they didn't say anything about Giga being stronger. In fact, at ~1:20, they make it pretty clear that T. rex had a stronger bite. Seems like you didn't pay much attention when watching the video.

I still can't believe anyone actually thought they would get an "accurate" T.rex

I know you've seen me say as much on FB, but it's worth repeating here: To be fair, Trevorrow et al. explicitly advertised the prologue as "paleontologically correct" ( https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/852549476232855575/853026740393345084/image0.png ) even though it clearly isn't in many (if not most) ways. Otherwise, the prologue animals & their environment "would look quite different" (as Dr. Wu put it). The prologue T. rex (which is literally just a proto-feathered version of Rexy) is an especially good example of that ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1rjEe9ERfY ). If creators claim they're gonna make something many fans want (in this case, a paleo accurate prologue) & then don't follow through, of course those fans are gonna complain.

Manuel Bejarano altered his Concavenator clip to look like it was part of the Dominion Cretaceous sequence.

Thank you for that. I was wondering if that was an official video or just a really well-made fan video.

@SRF Just wanna say that I'm loving your PNSO avatar. On a related note, I recently found out about this PNSO T. rex illustration (which I would describe as a "mega chonker"): https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/71OObuCfQdS.jpg

[KeU]

Not that I have a dog in this race (or large theropod I guess), but T. rex was also strong enough to remove the head of a Triceratops. Combined with the bite force it had, it is not something I've ever want to mess with (if I was a large theropod). If only they would address that in the next film. Honestly I'm kind of surprised they haven't taken the opportunity to jump on that.

Yep, I read about the Tyrannosaurus ripping heads hypothesis.
https://phys.org/news/2012-10-life-death-triceratops-fossilized-tooth.html
Just remember, too many folks over sensationalize this, same thing as the size of the Giganotosaurus, to the fact where people start to think Tyrannosaurus walked around tearing Triceratops heads of like nothing.
It least just looking at the evidence, Tyrannosaurus bit around the frill and neck socket of Triceratops.
We do not know if the Triceratops is dead, half eaten, or decomposed to the point where it is easy to remove the head to access more meat.
Many predators today do rip corpses apart to get to more meat or marrow.

If the Giga's leg is broken then it 100% is dead. Next bite will be to the back of the skull

I think Tyrannosaurus would have just went for the head or neck.
It is less risky. Going for the leg just invites bites to its own head or neck.
Especially of Tyrannosaurus would bite and hang on, clamping down harder and harder.
As opposed to bite fast and back off.

[bone crusher]

So after Dominion and the eventual defeat of Giganotosaurus (I mean come on), who would be the future megatheropod threat or have we pretty much run out of options lol? Another Carcharodontosaurid would be all too similar, we've tried megahybrid and Spinosaurus is already done, I just don't see a good candidate at this point. Maybe a rogue, particularly large specimen of T.Rex made from Biosyn with out of whack behavior problems goes on a rampage? Or are we looking at the advent of weaponized Dinos like Dino Riders ? But regardless I feel like my girl Rexy must have achieved Ultra Instinct by now, she could stop anyone coming her way.

[Takama]

So after Dominion and the eventual defeat of Giganotosaurus (I mean come on), who would be the future megatheropod threat or have we pretty much run out of options lol? Another Carcharodontosaurid would be all too similar, we've tried megahybrid and Spinosaurus is already done, I just don't see a good candidate at this point. Maybe a rogue, particularly large specimen of T.Rex made from Biosyn with out of whack behavior problems goes on a rampage? Or are we looking at the advent of weaponized Dinos like Dino Riders ? But regardless I feel like my girl Rexy must have achieved Ultra Instinct by now, she could stop anyone coming her way.

Heres an idea.  END OF THE SERIES let it die

[suspsy]

Heres an idea.  END OF THE SERIES let it die

What a godsend that would be.

[Gwangi]

I feel like Dominion will be the end of the Jurassic World trilogy, but it won't be the end of the franchise. Jurassic Park/World is Universal's cash cow, they won't stop milking it until it stops producing income. So again I'll say it, vote with your wallet. If your tired of the franchise, don't give them your money.

[Blade-of-the-Moon]

I feel like Dominion will be the end of the Jurassic World trilogy, but it won't be the end of the franchise. Jurassic Park/World is Universal's cash cow, they won't stop milking it until it stops producing income. So again I'll say it, vote with your wallet. If your tired of the franchise, don't give them your money.

I believe Treverrow said exactly that. Uni wont let something go they just spent a mint on.

[bone crusher]

So after Dominion and the eventual defeat of Giganotosaurus (I mean come on), who would be the future megatheropod threat or have we pretty much run out of options lol? Another Carcharodontosaurid would be all too similar, we've tried megahybrid and Spinosaurus is already done, I just don't see a good candidate at this point. Maybe a rogue, particularly large specimen of T.Rex made from Biosyn with out of whack behavior problems goes on a rampage? Or are we looking at the advent of weaponized Dinos like Dino Riders ? But regardless I feel like my girl Rexy must have achieved Ultra Instinct by now, she could stop anyone coming her way.

Heres an idea.  END OF THE SERIES let it die

Pretty sure Universal wants to make at least three more after this trilogy. I'm sorta getting a Rise of the Planet of the Dinosaurs vibe judging by the quote

These creatures were here before us. And if we're not careful, they're gonna be here after. We're gonna have to adjust to new threat that we can't imagine. We've entered a new era. Welcome to Jurassic World.

[ITdactyl]

Can't we replace the:
"I hate this franchise. It should not exist"
with
"I hate this franchise. I won't waste my time with it."

Sure it was a squandered opportunity at science education, but everyone here already knows that.