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Safari 2020

Started by Dan, October 01, 2019, 11:00:45 PM

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Blade-of-the-Moon

I think Rebor has answered the questions here very well.  Let's remember this is a Safari thread and get back on topic please. Thank you!


Sim

#441
Thanks for the photos avatar_TaranUlas @TaranUlas! :)  The following video which I think is by D @Dino Scream3232 shows a Concavenator that can stand although it's not hard to make it fall over:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTlRQ3jTG4U

tanystropheus

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Quote from: Sim on February 06, 2020, 08:42:32 PM
Thanks for the photos avatar_TaranUlas @TaranUlas! :)  The following video which I think is by D @Dino Scream3232 shows a Concavenator that can stand although it's not hard to make it fall over:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTlRQ3jTG4U

LOL. He implied that he wasn't interested in the Icthyosaurus :) :-\

The Concavenator does appear to look better in the in-hand video than circulating photos

Shonisaurus

Quote from: tanystropheus on February 07, 2020, 12:23:21 AM
Quote from: Sim on February 06, 2020, 08:42:32 PM
Thanks for the photos avatar_TaranUlas @TaranUlas! :)  The following video which I think is by D @Dino Scream3232 shows a Concavenator that can stand although it's not hard to make it fall over:



LOL. He implied that he wasn't interested in the Icthyosaurus :) :-\

The Concavenator does appear to look better in the in-hand video than circulating photos

I respect the likes of Dino Scream of which I am an admirer and follower but honestly the icthyosaurus of Safari must be met in person and is truly sincere. It is metaphorically comparable to the animosity we have for human beings that we do not know and if we had a physical conversation with them they would end up pleasing us. The same happens with the Safari 2020 ichthyosaurus, it must be kept in person instead of watching it in videos or in photographs, whether promotional or not.

But that said I respect the decision of Dino Scream of which I am an admirer of his videos and his work but in this case I do not share it.

Gothmog the Baryonyx

I main that the new Concavenator (and the rest of this year's line up really) are the best versions of each yet released.
No matter the beautiful sculpting on the Carnegie Concavenator etc it looks more like a statue than an animal to me.
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Shonisaurus

The concavenator of Safari 2020 is very beautiful. What I would have liked (it is a personal taste) that would have been done on the same scale as his Carnegie counterpart and with a brighter and more striking painting, but this is as I repeat, an appreciation of mine.

Gothmog the Baryonyx

Quote from: Shonisaurus on February 08, 2020, 01:20:30 AM
The concavenator of Safari 2020 is very beautiful. What I would have liked (it is a personal taste) that would have been done on the same scale as his Carnegie counterpart and with a brighter and more striking painting, but this is as I repeat, an appreciation of mine.
Again I must disagree. The new one is the perfect scale. The old was too big, everything, except some really small animals, should be done between 1:35 and 1:40 or close to it I think.
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TaranUlas

Quote from: Sim on February 06, 2020, 08:42:32 PM
Thanks for the photos avatar_TaranUlas @TaranUlas! :)  The following video which I think is by D @Dino Scream3232 shows a Concavenator that can stand although it's not hard to make it fall over:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTlRQ3jTG4U

You're welcome avatar_Sim @Sim and also thank you for showing the video. Okay so I can see now what the issue is on my Concavenator's foot and I can see that it isn't a widespread issue. For some reason (Probably either yanked it out too hard of the plastic stand it's in when it arrived or a factory error), mine has it's right foot tilted downwards as if it was standing on a sloping rock or a hill preparing to go down it. I think we can all tell what the issue is with that on a figure with already weaker balance and a very flat foot for the left foot. I think I'll likely get a new one (I really do not want to deal with this potentially giving way and tumbling off my shelf or my work cart. That and the cost is cheap enough that I can afford it) and donate this little fellow to a kid at my mom's work (First, I'll make sure that the Concavenator has a stand so that the kid doesn't have to deal with the Concavenator constantly falling over. My mom's patients suffer enough and don't need a falling over figure making things worse.)

On a completely unrelated note, anyone know of good custom stand material that would be safe for a kid possibly going through chemo and the like? Just for curiosity.

Shonisaurus

Quote from: Gothmog the Baryonyx on February 08, 2020, 02:03:46 AM
Quote from: Shonisaurus on February 08, 2020, 01:20:30 AM
The concavenator of Safari 2020 is very beautiful. What I would have liked (it is a personal taste) that would have been done on the same scale as his Carnegie counterpart and with a brighter and more striking painting, but this is as I repeat, an appreciation of mine.
Again I must disagree. The new one is the perfect scale. The old was too big, everything, except some really small animals, should be done between 1:35 and 1:40 or close to it I think.

In my case I prefer dinosaurs of acceptable size even large without scale although in reality it was a medium / small or small prehistoric dinosaur or animal. They are I am a fan of the scales sincerely.

Blade-of-the-Moon

Quote from: TaranUlas on February 08, 2020, 07:57:12 AM
Quote from: Sim on February 06, 2020, 08:42:32 PM
Thanks for the photos avatar_TaranUlas @TaranUlas! :)  The following video which I think is by D @Dino Scream3232 shows a Concavenator that can stand although it's not hard to make it fall over:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTlRQ3jTG4U

You're welcome avatar_Sim @Sim and also thank you for showing the video. Okay so I can see now what the issue is on my Concavenator's foot and I can see that it isn't a widespread issue. For some reason (Probably either yanked it out too hard of the plastic stand it's in when it arrived or a factory error), mine has it's right foot tilted downwards as if it was standing on a sloping rock or a hill preparing to go down it. I think we can all tell what the issue is with that on a figure with already weaker balance and a very flat foot for the left foot. I think I'll likely get a new one (I really do not want to deal with this potentially giving way and tumbling off my shelf or my work cart. That and the cost is cheap enough that I can afford it) and donate this little fellow to a kid at my mom's work (First, I'll make sure that the Concavenator has a stand so that the kid doesn't have to deal with the Concavenator constantly falling over. My mom's patients suffer enough and don't need a falling over figure making things worse.)

On a completely unrelated note, anyone know of good custom stand material that would be safe for a kid possibly going through chemo and the like? Just for curiosity.

If you heat it up either with boiling water or the hairdryer on high it might go back to flat.

Dino Scream3232

I ended up fixing the warped toes on my concavenator. It's much more stable now. Safari is definitely concerned about warping since it comes in a plastic tray that surrounds both legs. Here's some pics of the concavenator, Dilophosaurus, and qianzhosaurus.

Shonisaurus

I congratulate you for your new Safari figures, I sincerely like that in this case and this year Doug Watson has decided to put all those figures with his mouth completely closed, it is the form that these species of prehistoric animals would most commonly adopt, in In this case, dinosaurs and not with their mouths open as they are usually used by all toy and collectible paleoartists (prehistoric resin animals).

Blade-of-the-Moon

I haven't received these last three myself yet, they are on their way, but looking at pics and video reviews of the Qianzhousaurus it's probably a good thing most have closed mouths. Safari just can't seem to catch a break with teeth.

Lot of uniform colors across the line as well, the Qianzhousaurus I would have done ( and might do ) some blues and more contrasting colors to have it stand out.


SidB

Quote from: Shonisaurus on February 08, 2020, 04:53:28 PM
I congratulate you for your new Safari figures, I sincerely like that in this case and this year Doug Watson has decided to put all those figures with his mouth completely closed, it is the form that these species of prehistoric animals would most commonly adopt, in In this case, dinosaurs and not with their mouths open as they are usually used by all toy and collectible paleoartists (prehistoric resin animals).
The closed mouths are a refreshing change from the usual poses. Plus, clearly these are theropods of fine  character - good listeners who know how to keep their traps shut!   

Takama

After seeing some more Real life Photos of the Concavenator, i got to say that Im one of a few who does not mind the diffrence in color scheme from the Promo image.

Maybe the White stripes could be a little duller or ommited all together, but i dont see this as a terrible downgrade.

Blade-of-the-Moon

Just received these. The colors look better in warm lighting without the flash, though I still preferred the original Concavenator colors.  The Qianzhousaurus is nicely sculpted, I like the look and feel of the " Pinocchio Rex " . It has some rough teeth as I had seen on others posts and videos
and painting them seems more like guess work. Mostly they are missed and just a pinpoint of white paint stuck where a tooth might possibly be, even if there are none sculpted. The other small detraction is the size of the company logo,region of manufacture ect. It takes up the whole chest and is an eyesore from the front. Maybe there are codes to adhere to but if they can make them as small as on the Concavenator and Dilophosaurus then surely they could use the same size on larger models?



tanystropheus

Why does Qianzhousaurus have such a "classic" Safari/Carnegie look about it?

Jose S.M.

I'm very relieved that I actually like the colors of Concavenator and Qianzhousaurus after seen them in hand. Pity about the teeth of Qianzhousaurus, maybe if I'm feeling confident I will try to customize some new teeth on it maaaybe (probably not  ;D)

SidB

Quote from: Jose S.M. on February 09, 2020, 12:30:43 AM
I'm very relieved that I actually like the colors of Concavenator and Qianzhousaurus after seen them in hand. Pity about the teeth of Qianzhousaurus, maybe if I'm feeling confident I will try to customize some new teeth on it maaaybe (probably not  ;D)
Regarding the teeth - I very much doubt that Safari reached its potential in the sculpting of these. I'll bet that Doug Watson's original was a far cry from this dental failure. Safari can do better. For example, look at the four versions of the 10th Anniversary Carnegie Safari T-rex on the carnegiecollection,blogspot.com: the final version has long, delicate and beautifully formed teeth - it can be done.

Perhaps if this figure endures for a while, Safari will issue an updated version, like they have done so often in the past. If that happens, I'd hope that they would correct this deficiency. They are quite capable of so doing.

Blade-of-the-Moon

Quote from: SidB on February 09, 2020, 02:49:10 AM
Quote from: Jose S.M. on February 09, 2020, 12:30:43 AM
I'm very relieved that I actually like the colors of Concavenator and Qianzhousaurus after seen them in hand. Pity about the teeth of Qianzhousaurus, maybe if I'm feeling confident I will try to customize some new teeth on it maaaybe (probably not  ;D)
Regarding the teeth - I very much doubt that Safari reached its potential in the sculpting of these. I'll bet that Doug Watson's original was a far cry from this dental failure. Safari can do better. For example, look at the four versions of the 10th Anniversary Carnegie Safari T-rex on the carnegiecollection,blogspot.com: the final version has long, delicate and beautifully formed teeth - it can be done.

Perhaps if this figure endures for a while, Safari will issue an updated version, like they have done so often in the past. If that happens, I'd hope that they would correct this deficiency. They are quite capable of so doing.

I'm sure Doug's original was 100% better as well.  I think the problem comes more into play when attempting to add lips to these guys, the overall look of them is pretty short anyway, then you cast that which reduces it more and..yeah.  You could try sculpting them larger to account for it but then what if it does get a few right? You'll end up with them too big. It's  a heck an issue to solve.

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