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CollectA—New for 2020

Started by suspsy, October 31, 2019, 08:45:45 PM

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Dinoguy2

Quote from: Bokisaurus on November 05, 2019, 06:19:39 PM
Aesome new figures from CollectA! That protoceratops is simply amazing and it's about time we get a figure of this classic dinosaur and at a good size, too  :D
The Fuki is nice, it would be interesting if it in the same size as the mantia... if so, a repaint of each could be done to make a pair for each.
I love the Microraptor, by far my favorite version of this species in toy form. Its dynamic and very alive looking. It would be great if CollectA share the information about what prompted them to do it in this interpretation. From what little info there is about the model, it seems like it was one that was specifically requested by a museum in China, and that the staff approved the design. Maybe there is information out there we just don't know yet.
Great start so far, I can't wait to see what else is coming! :)

Maybe there's a paper in the works upholding a distinction between M. zhaoianus and M. gui, with tail feathering as a difference? Or tail feather sexual dimorphism like in Confusciusornis...? I wonder what museum they're working with.
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suspsy

Quote from: Dinoguy2 on November 06, 2019, 12:05:19 AM
Quote from: Bokisaurus on November 05, 2019, 06:19:39 PM
Aesome new figures from CollectA! That protoceratops is simply amazing and it's about time we get a figure of this classic dinosaur and at a good size, too  :D
The Fuki is nice, it would be interesting if it in the same size as the mantia... if so, a repaint of each could be done to make a pair for each.
I love the Microraptor, by far my favorite version of this species in toy form. Its dynamic and very alive looking. It would be great if CollectA share the information about what prompted them to do it in this interpretation. From what little info there is about the model, it seems like it was one that was specifically requested by a museum in China, and that the staff approved the design. Maybe there is information out there we just don't know yet.
Great start so far, I can't wait to see what else is coming! :)

Maybe there's a paper in the works upholding a distinction between M. zhaoianus and M. gui, with tail feathering as a difference? Or tail feather sexual dimorphism like in Confusciusornis...? I wonder what museum they're working with.

According to Wikipedia at least, there are 300 fossil specimens of Microraptor. Does anyone have any idea how many of them have well-preserved feather impressions? And more to the point, are there any feather impressions that indicate a rounded tail like the one on this toy?
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Dinoguy2

Quote from: suspsy on November 06, 2019, 12:07:51 AM
Quote from: Dinoguy2 on November 06, 2019, 12:05:19 AM
Quote from: Bokisaurus on November 05, 2019, 06:19:39 PM
Aesome new figures from CollectA! That protoceratops is simply amazing and it's about time we get a figure of this classic dinosaur and at a good size, too  :D
The Fuki is nice, it would be interesting if it in the same size as the mantia... if so, a repaint of each could be done to make a pair for each.
I love the Microraptor, by far my favorite version of this species in toy form. Its dynamic and very alive looking. It would be great if CollectA share the information about what prompted them to do it in this interpretation. From what little info there is about the model, it seems like it was one that was specifically requested by a museum in China, and that the staff approved the design. Maybe there is information out there we just don't know yet.
Great start so far, I can't wait to see what else is coming! :)

Maybe there's a paper in the works upholding a distinction between M. zhaoianus and M. gui, with tail feathering as a difference? Or tail feather sexual dimorphism like in Confusciusornis...? I wonder what museum they're working with.

According to Wikipedia at least, there are 300 fossil specimens of Microraptor. Does anyone have any idea how many of them have well-preserved feather impressions? And more to the point, are there any feather impressions that indicate a rounded tail like the one on this toy?

There are some unpublished specimens on wiki that appear to maybe have rounded tails, unless they were just prepped that way, like this one

The holotype of "Cryptovolans" also doesn't seem to have elongated tail feathers, based on photos...
The Carnegie Collection Dinosaur Archive - http://www.dinosaurmountain.net

Halichoeres

"Museum staff" could mean lots of things, not necessarily a curator or anybody with particular expertise on theropods. Museums have marketing staff, too. I wouldn't let that phrasing get in the way of your skepticism about the tail design.

On the other hand, that Fukuisaurus is growing on me. Always nice to get a good ornithopod, and that's a good ornithopod.
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Concavenator

I think there must have been a reason for they obmitting the twin tail feathers don't know if I'm right but the specimen in which those twin tail feathers were discovered was also the one from which scientists discovered the black colour and iridiscence of its feathers  ??? And afaik, not all of Microraptor specimens present those feathers. If those were only found in one individual, it could potentially mean that that concrete individual would have had a mutation. If this was the case, then it's pretty amazing that very individual would have fossilized.

CollectA have said that the museum that asked them to make Microraptor was the one that houses the original fossil. And like I said, if they approved the accuracy of the model, there must have been a reason. I don't think CollectA would accept the scientific advice from the  marketing staff as avatar_Halichoeres @Halichoeres says  ;D CollectA also gave the Baryonyx longer back vertebra than the original specimen because they say longer neural theropod spines had been found in England and because the holotype had many back bones broken or incomplete.And given the similarity with Suchomimus, this makes sense.
So I think they know what they do.

stargatedalek

If they paid CollectA than CollectA wouldn't have had any choice but to listen to whoever was appointed to direct them through things, which almost certainly would have been an intern in marketing.

Shonisaurus

I do not know if the Collecta microraptor is precise or inaccurate, but I understand that I should have lips and not have that fleshless mouth I like that one hundred percent microraptor the same but because of the comments it should be with lips.

On the other hand, I wish that the Collecta dinosaurs, although I know that it is to get into the company's philosophy, put them in a more precise sewer opening, that is, more realistic. That round hole that put their magnificent figures (which are still magnificent) does not seem realistic and I say it for figures such as the Carnotaurus and baryonyx of Collecta 2019. The two are beautiful theropods but they should have closed sewer openings, I do not think that they always had their sewer opening and I comment with the greatest affection in the world, being a fan of the Collecta brand and respecting as logical their philosophy as a company and their artistic licenses taking into account that we do not know how those disappeared prehistoric animals would be more than 66 million years and also considering that it is a toy and not a resin figure (these last figures for specialized collectors).

Sim

Quote from: Concavenator on November 06, 2019, 02:32:16 PM
I think there must have been a reason for they obmitting the twin tail feathers don't know if I'm right but the specimen in which those twin tail feathers were discovered was also the one from which scientists discovered the black colour and iridiscence of its feathers  ??? And afaik, not all of Microraptor specimens present those feathers. If those were only found in one individual, it could potentially mean that that concrete individual would have had a mutation. If this was the case, then it's pretty amazing that very individual would have fossilized.
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avatar_Concavenator @Concavenator, more than one specimen of Microraptor has the two long tail feathers.  An image showing this feature in three specimens can be seen here: http://mostlyopenocean.blogspot.com/2012/04/colour-of-dinosaurs.html

Sauropelta

Proto - Looks good but will likely be too big for my collection. I want a 1:10-1:20 scale one.

Fuku - Nicely done hadrosaur.

Microraptor - Already a billion of these on the market.

Bary - Meh. Looks like a worse version of Suchomimus they made.

So really the Fuku is only solid one.
Sauropelta (Meaning 'lizard shield') is a genus of nodosaurid dinosaur that existed in the Early Cretaceous Period of North America. One species (S. edwardsorum) has been named although others may have existed. Anatomically, Sauropelta is one of the most well-understood nodosaurids, with fossilized remains recovered in the U.S. states of Wyoming, Montana, and possibly Utah.

Dinoguy2

The Fuku looks good, but I kind of wish companies would stop making random generic looking ornithopods and focus on making the generic looking ornithopods we need to complete major, popular formations! Like Morrison (Camotosaurus, Dryosaurus), and Hell Creek (Thescelosaurus).
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Gothmog the Baryonyx

The Fukuisaurus looks excellent to me. The Protoceratops would be nicer at a smaller, more reasonable size, but I may still bite. I think this Baryonyx is a better size, correct me if I'm wrong but it looks like the 2020 Barry is 1:50 whilst the 2019 Barry is 1:30?
I'm not going to say anything about the Microraptor other than acknowledge it's existence, as I see several people have entered into a serious discussion about tail feathers which I have no intention of entering.
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Halichoeres

Quote from: Dinoguy2 on November 07, 2019, 11:37:12 AM
The Fuku looks good, but I kind of wish companies would stop making random generic looking ornithopods and focus on making the generic looking ornithopods we need to complete major, popular formations! Like Morrison (Camotosaurus, Dryosaurus), and Hell Creek (Thescelosaurus).

I think Beeson's influence means the only formations that CollectA might complete are British ones.
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LeapingLaelaps

Okay, I need that Bajadasaurus 8)

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Flaffy

The Bajadasaurus is easily the highlight of the reveals so far. Definitely picking this one up.
The Saltriovenator is certainly a welcome surprise. Dunno why they decided to make it a Deluxe figure though, it would've been perfectly fine as a standard one.

A fan of the more natural colours used on both of these models, I'll take it over gaudy war paint CollectA seems to love.


suspsy

I've added the two images to the OP. They look swell!
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Shonisaurus

Although they are known for fragmentary remains, I welcome these two new figures.

The saltriovenator does not know if it will be scientific or not but it looks magnificent without a fixed base, it is supported on its two legs and it is not commented if it has a mobile jaw and it also does not have brown tones as they complained while members of the forum. Very realistic colors that reject the camouflage paintings (war paintings). His lips is something expected by me.

On the other hand, the punk bajadasaurus sauropod that obviously substitutes in quality and beauty the Amargasaurus of the same Collecta brand, its paint colors are beautifully detailed and as always Collecta is ahead of time when making new species. The size to be a sauropod is considerable.
To date, only other prehistoric animal species are being made dinosaurs, which suggests that Collecta focuses only on dinosaurs this year.

The two are exquisitely detailed and well modeled that is the positive, although unfortunately of both dinosaurs we only know very fragmentary remains and everything is very speculative for now as was the Collecta deinocheirus (first version), surely if they are known Over time, new remains, as happened with the deinocheirus, the appearance of both dinosaurs will vary considerably, so Collecta will have to reissue both dinosaurs updating them as happened with the deinocheirus after the new scientific discoveries.

Anyway, it is appreciated that Collecta makes figures of prehistoric animals unpublished in the toy market. My note for both is 10 out of 10 although the real appearance of both dinosaurs as is logical is totally speculative.

John

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I wonder just how old the Microraptor design that was approved by the mystery Chinese museum's staff is considering how out of date it seems to be in some ways concerning the feathers,like the lack of streamer feathers on it's tail and as the Scorpiovenator brings attention to,lack of lips (which still cannot necessarily be considered an inaccuracy just yet,though it would not be a surprise to me if they did have lips)...
Of course this means I want to see further updated theropods of all families by either CollectA or Safari Ltd. including,you guessed it,Tyrannosaurus rex. >:D


Quote from: Shonisaurus on November 08, 2019, 03:37:22 AM

The saltriovenator does not know if it will be scientific or not but it looks magnificent without a fixed base, it is supported on its two legs and it is not commented if it has a mobile jaw and it also does not have brown tones as they complained while members of the forum. Very realistic colors that reject the camouflage paintings (war paintings). His lips is something expected by me.


I'm not sure about the final release version,but the prototype in the picture has seams on it's jaw and in it's mouth that are consistent with having movable jaws.
Don't you hate it when you legitimately compliment someone's mustache and she gets angry with you?

Bokisaurus

Wow, one of my 2020 wish was granted!
I love that Bajadasaurus! Beautiful model of this interesting sauropod.
I wonder how many prehistoric animals this year?
Can't wait till next week!😃

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