A petition to change the papo giganotosaurus!

[EmperorDinobot]

The pose is kind of...I don't think a 13 meter long dinosaur could move that way, but I've been wrong before. I mean I saw an elephant skipping over fencing the other day. But this thing's proportions do not lend to the pose Papo decided to go with. This was one bulky dinosaur. This is like saying that Brachiosaurus could do what it did at the beginning of Jurassic Park...



...then again...this is Papo. We have to embrace the fact that these are theme park monsters rather than actual dinosaurs. Just look at literally everything they've released, and how they started.



How they started...it feels like such a long time ago...I was just a kid, innocent and pure...and now I have a Giganotosaurus that's either scared of me or lunging at me. I cannot read it. Ma, if you find this, please, use your broomstick on the dynamic beast, love, Me.

[Halichoeres]

Think of how let down us marine reptile lovers felt between the announcement, and reveal, of the two Papo marine reptiles. In that context, the Papo Giganotosaurus is commendable!

This is who Papo are, embrace it!

It's true, those were worse.

[EmperorDinobot]

It's true, their plesiosaur and mosasaur are terrible, terrible people.

[DinoToyForum]

You should check the Instagram and Twitter feeds Dr. Admin.  A lot of lay people still prefer the classic swan necked 'plesiosaurs' and actually like the figure from Papo (over updated reconstructions).  You've got your work cut out for you.

Oh, I believe it. But if those are the same people criticising the Giga, then they either care more about dinosaurs than plesiosaurs, or they don't know any better and don't realise how utterly terrible the marine reptile figures are. Or both. 

It isn't just the swan neck, by the way: http://dinotoyblog.com/2010/05/06/plesiosaurus-papo/

I still like Papo plesiosaur, for all its faults. I only raise it to point out that we should temper our expectations with Papo.

[Stegotyranno420]

Back on topic: sorry to disappoint Stegotyranno, but I'm on the "vote with your wallet" wagon. 

what do you mean

I meant buy the things that you like and don't buy the figures you don't like (=vote with your wallet).
I doubt they would still change the pose at this point.  We're not asking them to change something minor (like an excess finger, or unnecessary crests) but the entire pose - which was sculpted deliberately by the artist.

But I'm sure the execs and decision makers will notice sales numbers, particularly if this figure doesn't sell well.  To be realistic though, despite the general dislike in this forum there are a lot of people who are excited for this figure.  I admittedly might buy this figure for a dino-crisis project.

Now, if the petition was for something in the future, like asking Papo to release another Giganotosaurus in a different pose or asking them to reconsider the poses of their other future releases - then consider me a full supporter.

once again, i saw this on the internent and thought you guys may be interested

[gnetum2015]

Papo = RIP
Never laughed so loud
The new Giganotosaurus from Papo looks like King Kong who meets Muppet Show.
It is a great pity!
It could be such a beautiful figur - but it seems to be a new trend of Papo - wanted to make their figures spectacular -  and loose - the same procedere as last year ... with the pentaceratops - what a bummer.
In the past they worked very well, the iguanodon is a living animal in a correct pose.
I also sold my two Acrocanthos and the Cerato - otherwise I bought the W-Dragon Allosaurus, the Namnu Carnotaurus and a lot of PNSO ...my only hope for Europe will be the new T Rex from Rebor ...we will see, I hope he will look like a living animal (it is not so easy with the new Rebor figures since 3-D- printing - the surfaces are too symetric).

[gnetum2015]

... a remark:

That Giganotosaurus would be funny looking together with the Schleich Therizinosaurue (who looks like Freddy Krueger) and the old  upstanding Plateosaurus from Bullyland ...

[REBOR_STUDIO]

Papo did it for a reason. Some of you might heard of the term "carpet test", children play with their dinosaur models on the floor so a good test of a dinosaur toy's stability is whether or not it can stand up on a carpet and apparently most distributors and sellers really care about this rule so we totally understand why they value the stability of their products over everything else.

We think it's still a brilliant figure and definitely will add it to our collections.

[postsaurischian]

 Too much fuss about a not so important figure, if you ask me .

[Killekor]

Papo did it for a reason. Some of you might heard of the term "carpet test", children play with their dinosaur models on the floor so a good test of a dinosaur toy's stability is whether or not it can stand up on a carpet and apparently most distributors and sellers really care about this rule so we totally understand why they value the stability of their products over everything else.

We think it's still a brilliant figure and definitely will add it to our collections.

Thanks for the information REBOR! I think too that it's still a nice figure.

[ S @Syndicate Bias I think that you're interested in this post].

Killekor

[DinoToyForum]

Back on topic: sorry to disappoint Stegotyranno, but I'm on the "vote with your wallet" wagon. 

what do you mean

I meant buy the things that you like and don't buy the figures you don't like (=vote with your wallet).
I doubt they would still change the pose at this point.  We're not asking them to change something minor (like an excess finger, or unnecessary crests) but the entire pose - which was sculpted deliberately by the artist.

But I'm sure the execs and decision makers will notice sales numbers, particularly if this figure doesn't sell well.  To be realistic though, despite the general dislike in this forum there are a lot of people who are excited for this figure.  I admittedly might buy this figure for a dino-crisis project.

Now, if the petition was for something in the future, like asking Papo to release another Giganotosaurus in a different pose or asking them to reconsider the poses of their other future releases - then consider me a full supporter.

once again, i saw this on the internent and thought you guys may be interested

Please don't take it personally, it has led to an interesting discussion, so even if some of us are poopooing the petition, thanks for sharing it. 

[suspsy]

Papo did it for a reason. Some of you might heard of the term "carpet test", children play with their dinosaur models on the floor so a good test of a dinosaur toy's stability is whether or not it can stand up on a carpet and apparently most distributors and sellers really care about this rule so we totally understand why they value the stability of their products over everything else.

We think it's still a brilliant figure and definitely will add it to our collections.

Eh, I'm familiar with the carpet test (my son carries it out with his toys on a daily basis), but there were still far better options than a Godzilla pose. As much as we've griped in the past about the Carnegie Collection's theropods being in tripod stances, I'm seriously beginning to miss those.

But like I said, what's done is done. I'm still perfectly happy with my Carnegie Giganotosaurus anyway.

[Syndicate Bias]

Papo did it for a reason. Some of you might heard of the term "carpet test", children play with their dinosaur models on the floor so a good test of a dinosaur toy's stability is whether or not it can stand up on a carpet and apparently most distributors and sellers really care about this rule so we totally understand why they value the stability of their products over everything else.

We think it's still a brilliant figure and definitely will add it to our collections.

Eh, I'm familiar with the carpet test (my son carries it out with his toys on a daily basis), but there were still far better options than a Godzilla pose. As much as we've griped in the past about the Carnegie Collection's theropods being in tripod stances, I'm seriously beginning to miss those.

But like I said, what's done is done. I'm still perfectly happy with my Carnegie Giganotosaurus anyway.

The Carneige Giganotosaurus was a perfect tripid stance it wasn't going up all the way like the Papo Giganotosaurus which Papo should've tried to at least make it closer to Carneige's pose.

[Loon]

You're all wrong, actually. Not only is this figure brilliant, it also puts every other dinosaur toy and even resin models to shame. CollectA? More like "No Way"! EoFauna? More like "I don't Wanna"! Safari? More like "So Sorry"!

[Stegotyranno420]

You're all wrong, actually. Not only is this figure brilliant, it also puts every other dinosaur toy and even resin models to shame. CollectA? More like "No Way"! EoFauna? More like "I don't Wanna"! Safari? More like "So Sorry"!

Oh, really?

[Takama]

you know what i think could of worked?

Is if whoever came up with the design for this toy at Papo Decided to give this long awaited figure a pose akin to the Nanmu I.rex.

I would imagine they could have had the hand pronated like they did for the Chiliesaurus.



Sure its not Acurrate, and im sure they would need to exagerate things a little, but it would at least look a lot more Realistic, then what we got.

Sadly  Whats Done is Done. And its far too late now



   

[stargatedalek]

On that topic I'm surprised Papo didn't take the chance to make an outright Indominus and label it Giganotosaurus. Ironically a film accurate Indominus would be a more realistic Giga than this thing ended up being, just lop off that extra finger.

[Dinoguy2]

Papo did it for a reason. Some of you might heard of the term "carpet test", children play with their dinosaur models on the floor so a good test of a dinosaur toy's stability is whether or not it can stand up on a carpet and apparently most distributors and sellers really care about this rule so we totally understand why they value the stability of their products over everything else.

We think it's still a brilliant figure and definitely will add it to our collections.

Eh, I'm familiar with the carpet test (my son carries it out with his toys on a daily basis), but there were still far better options than a Godzilla pose. As much as we've griped in the past about the Carnegie Collection's theropods being in tripod stances, I'm seriously beginning to miss those.

But like I said, what's done is done. I'm still perfectly happy with my Carnegie Giganotosaurus anyway.

Carnegie usually did tripods right. Intended simply for balance, body tipped up at a relatively believable "alert" posture, tail not so bent as to seem broken. Even the original T. rex has nothing anatomically impossible about it.

This Papo one just looks painful. 

[stargatedalek]

Papo did it for a reason. Some of you might heard of the term "carpet test", children play with their dinosaur models on the floor so a good test of a dinosaur toy's stability is whether or not it can stand up on a carpet and apparently most distributors and sellers really care about this rule so we totally understand why they value the stability of their products over everything else.

We think it's still a brilliant figure and definitely will add it to our collections.

Eh, I'm familiar with the carpet test (my son carries it out with his toys on a daily basis), but there were still far better options than a Godzilla pose. As much as we've griped in the past about the Carnegie Collection's theropods being in tripod stances, I'm seriously beginning to miss those.

But like I said, what's done is done. I'm still perfectly happy with my Carnegie Giganotosaurus anyway.

Carnegie usually did tripods right. Intended simply for balance, body tipped up at a relatively believable "alert" posture, tail not so bent as to seem broken. Even the original T. rex has nothing anatomically impossible about it.

This Papo one just looks painful. 

This.

Ironically, a lot of those semi-upright postures Carnegie used are becoming more accurate as time goes by. As we are becoming more generally aware that the flat horizontal posture that became so ubiquitous was originated as much if not more as an artistic choice rather than a scientific one, companies are as usual a couple years behind and are just starting to fully commit to that horizontal posture. I give it at least another five years before they catch up and posture starts becoming more variable.

[EmperorDinobot]

... a remark:

That Giganotosaurus would be funny looking together with the Schleich Therizinosaurue (who looks like Freddy Krueger) and the old  upstanding Plateosaurus from Bullyland ...

I...accept this challenge.