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PNSO—New for 2020

Started by suspsy, January 30, 2020, 03:22:45 PM

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Loon

Quote from: triceratops83 on November 08, 2020, 12:01:15 AM
I like how smooth and streamlined it looks. Hopefully Spinosaurus doesn't change appearance for a while.

Next year we're gonna find out it actually couldn't walk, I guarantee it. ;)


Carnoking

Dare I say, my favorite Spinosaurus offering? And dare I say, my favorite from PNSO so far this year?

Loon

Quote from: Carnoking on November 08, 2020, 12:59:12 AM
Dare I say, my favorite Spinosaurus offering? And dare I say, my favorite from PNSO so far this year?

Dare I say, I mostly agree?

Syndicate Bias

Quote from: KeU on November 07, 2020, 10:37:14 PM
Wow! PNSO is really sucking the wallet dry. And we have not gotten to the Tyrannosaurus or Parasaurolophus yet.
Getting a sequel to the Spino release wave this quickly is a pleasant surprise.
Apart from the right arm being a knuckle support, the rest of the body looks really good.
And the comparison to the Pachyrhinosaurus, it looks to be of favorable length.
I wonder if the new Spino will keep the Essien name.
May I dare hope for a new Giganotosaurus too?

Seems very likely given both their Rex and Spino got the treatment.

Carnoking

Quote from: Loon on November 08, 2020, 01:00:37 AM
Quote from: Carnoking on November 08, 2020, 12:59:12 AM
Dare I say, my favorite Spinosaurus offering? And dare I say, my favorite from PNSO so far this year?

Dare I say, I mostly agree?

How dare you sir.

Carnoking


Loon

I think in all honesty, and in the tradition of Hollywood blockbusters, we should call this "The Age of the Spinosaurus".

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stargatedalek

Quote from: Kapitaenosavrvs on November 07, 2020, 11:54:31 PM
Quote from: Loon on November 07, 2020, 11:42:20 PM
Quote from: stargatedalek on November 07, 2020, 11:20:24 PM
It looks very little alike. The only similarities are the tail and the sails being very thin (I would say far too thin realistically, but almost every Spinosaurus suffers from this).

The PNSO has more naturalistic proportions overall, it doesn't use the inaccurate palm walking posture, and it has a speculative depiction of the unpreserved(?) claw being extremely reduced. The colours are also not very similar, the PNSO colours look more like the Safari ltd Spinosaurus than the GR Toys one.

Not to mention that this looks far better than the GR toys one.

Absolutely, yes. The GR Toys is still a well made Figure.

This PNSO really looks phenomenal. To me, this "Knuckle issue" isnt really an Issue. It is just a quick movement, not walking at all. So i guess this is managable. Spines are too thin but hey! We really do not know, and it is still a beatiful Figure. And it really isnt THAT bad. What a Day.

EDIT: Congrats avatar_Loon @Loon! Your prediction is well done. No wonder :)
Agreed on all counts.

Per the knuckles, we can safely say if Spinosaurus was walking on its palms the wrists and probably hands would need to radically distinct in shape to accommodate this, so it can be safely ruled out. But the knuckles could have been used as a brace, especially if the animal was standing still, without requiring skeletal adaptation. And the more aquatic Spinosaurus was the less it would need a particular adaptation for however it moved on land. You only need special adaptation in your fingers if you're walking on them every day to go bask, not if you only come to shore once a year to mate or lay eggs.

This PNSO represents the absolute minimal amount of vertebrae tissue I would consider plausible. But it gets huge points for not using crocodile scutes.

Quote from: Loon on November 08, 2020, 12:17:38 AM
Quote from: triceratops83 on November 08, 2020, 12:01:15 AM
I like how smooth and streamlined it looks. Hopefully Spinosaurus doesn't change appearance for a while.

Next year we're gonna find out it actually couldn't walk, I guarantee it. ;)
I wouldn't rule out walking or standing in a desperate hurry or to gain height, but I'd expect a Spinosaurus on land to be more comfortable crawling.

PhilSauria

Not sure if this has been mentioned yet but we have dimensions for the Spinosaurus courtesy of Everything Dinosaur's blog; it measures 23cm long by 10 cm high.

(they also have dimensions up for the new CollectA releases)

Over9K

#669
Quote from: Stolpergeist on November 07, 2020, 11:12:54 PM
I don't really see any similarities, completely different paint job, completely different pose, completely different anatomy, the PNSO one being more anatomically accurate with the head shape and all and the GR Toys one rests weidly on its nimble fingers while the PNSO one on its knuckles although that too is unlikely.
Not to mention that the GR Toys one has very pronounced osteoderms.

Like I said... AS similar to the GR as the Mojo Running Rex is to the Papo Running Rex. These would be the same differences you could claim of the two Rex models. The Mojo rex has osteoderms, Papo doesn't, Mojo has non-pronated hands, Papo doesn't, Mojo has a more accurate head than the Papo... and yet people accuse Mojo of knocking the Papo off.

These two Spinos are very close in pose, anatomy and proportion... these two pairs are very much similar levels of being alike...








stargatedalek

Quote from: Over9K on November 08, 2020, 03:13:26 AM
Quote from: Stolpergeist on November 07, 2020, 11:12:54 PM
I don't really see any similarities, completely different paint job, completely different pose, completely different anatomy, the PNSO one being more anatomically accurate with the head shape and all and the GR Toys one rests weidly on its nimble fingers while the PNSO one on its knuckles although that too is unlikely.
Not to mention that the GR Toys one has very pronounced osteoderms.

Like I said... AS similar to the GR as the Mojo Running Rex is to the Papo Running Rex. These would be the same differences you could claim of the two Rex models. The Mojo rex has osteoderms, Papo doesn't, Mojo has non-pronated hands, Papo doesn't, Mojo has a more accurate head than the Papo... and yet people accuse Mojo of knocking the Papo off.

These two Spinos are very close in pose, anatomy and proportion... these two pairs are very much alike...
The pose of these Spinosaurus is an extremely vague one. Moving forwards and turning the head slightly. And the anatomy looks similar because the anatomy is supposed to look similar. The parts that overlap are the parts that are accurate. Neither is clearly based on the other, if anything both of them are attempts at updated versions of the 2014 art announcing the then new Spinosaurus remains.

The Mojo and Papo rex vary in detail, but it's clear the Mojo is based on the Papo (which itself is based on trying to combine the rex from King Kong and Jurassic Park). Both of them are decidedly monster styled takes, even if the details vary, it's not based on anything aside from attempted coolness.

Over9K

Quote from: PhilSauria on November 08, 2020, 03:05:38 AM
Not sure if this has been mentioned yet but we have dimensions for the Spinosaurus courtesy of Everything Dinosaur's blog; it measures 23cm long by 10 cm high.



Puts it at about 1/70th scale.

Over9K

Quote from: stargatedalek on November 08, 2020, 03:22:46 AMThe pose of these Spinosaurus is an extremely vague one. Moving forwards and turning the head slightly. And the anatomy looks similar because the anatomy is supposed to look similar. The parts that overlap are the parts that are accurate. Neither is clearly based on the other, if anything both of them are attempts at updated versions of the 2014 art announcing the then new Spinosaurus remains.

The Mojo and Papo rex vary in detail, but it's clear the Mojo is based on the Papo (which itself is based on trying to combine the rex from King Kong and Jurassic Park). Both of them are decidedly monster styled takes, even if the details vary, it's not based on anything aside from attempted coolness.

I don't buy that whole "Mojo based theirs on the Papo" , I have both and side by side they're very different, with an indistinct similarity between them... much as we see with the two Spinosaurus models.


Flaffy

Quote from: Over9K on November 08, 2020, 03:13:26 AM
Quote from: Stolpergeist on November 07, 2020, 11:12:54 PM
I don't really see any similarities, completely different paint job, completely different pose, completely different anatomy, the PNSO one being more anatomically accurate with the head shape and all and the GR Toys one rests weidly on its nimble fingers while the PNSO one on its knuckles although that too is unlikely.
Not to mention that the GR Toys one has very pronounced osteoderms.
These two Spinos are very close in pose, anatomy and proportion... these two pairs are very much similar levels of being alike...


I think you're grasping at straws here bud. Similar pose? Maaaaybe (not really tbh). But if you really want to be picky about it, then there are most definitely more similarities between Papo and Mojo's rexes compared to the 2 spinos.

Over9K

#674
Quote from: Flaffy on November 08, 2020, 03:43:53 AM
Quote from: Over9K on November 08, 2020, 03:13:26 AM
Quote from: Stolpergeist on November 07, 2020, 11:12:54 PM
I don't really see any similarities, completely different paint job, completely different pose, completely different anatomy, the PNSO one being more anatomically accurate with the head shape and all and the GR Toys one rests weidly on its nimble fingers while the PNSO one on its knuckles although that too is unlikely.
Not to mention that the GR Toys one has very pronounced osteoderms.
These two Spinos are very close in pose, anatomy and proportion... these two pairs are very much similar levels of being alike...


I think you're grasping at straws here bud. Similar pose? Maaaaybe (not really tbh). But if you really want to be picky about it, then there are most definitely more similarities between Papo and Mojo's rexes compared to the 2 spinos.


One has the tail down and is resting on it's knuckles, the other has it's tail up and resting on the pads of its hand. Other than that they are S-shaped, turning left, one hand up, one hand down, deep curved tail of thin cross section.

As I've said I don't think the Mojo and Papo rexes are THAT similar... I just think there's the same level of similarity between these two Spinos.

At least the 1/40 collectors have an accurate Spino for their collections that is similar to the PNSO which turned out to be a bit small...


Loon

If they're willing to do Spinosaurus again in this smaller scale, I'd kinda want to see Amargasaurus or Mosasaurus done this way too. Those bigger figures are nice, but they both are too big for me and have their share of inaccuracies.

Renecito

Favorite Brands:              Favorite Dinosaurs:
1 - PNSO                        1 - Carnotaurus
2 - Vitae                         2 - Spinosaurus/Suchomimus
3 - Eofauna                     3 - Therizinosaurus
4 - Carnegie Line             4 - Deinocheirus
5 - CollectA                     5 - Gigantoraptor

Faelrin

#677
So going off the dimensions that have been posted this is definitely on the small side, but not terribly small either. Maybe in the 1:55 to 1:78 range (going off what the scale calculator linked on Dan's Dinosaurs gives, and using the 12.6 to 18 meter estimate, with the figure's length of 23 centimeters given)?

So it looks like last year's Papo may be the "best" option to fill my 1/35 scale needs unless CollectA or Safari Ltd delivers on that front. That said I am still entirely interested in getting this one even if it is a bit smaller then expected, because the sculpt and color scheme is still gorgeous.


And seeing that this is now on Amazon right before posting this (thanks avatar_Renecito @Renecito ), boy is it pricey too. Like about 2/3 of the price of the Papo one I got last year. Well not like I could go rushing to go buy it right now anyways.


Edit: I wonder if this is at a smaller scale, not just because as part of their cheaper range, but also not to take away from their previous 1/35 scale Spinosaurus? The names are the same as well it seems after checking the Everything Dinosaur post and seeing more pics of the box.
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Loon

Wow, that was quick. Ugh, the more I see this thing, the more I want it. Hopefully, Dan's Dinosaurs starts selling them soon. After getting my Corythosaurus so quickly, I'm probably only going to buy PNSO stuff from them now.

Over9K

#679
The raw measurements are difficult to visualize, but DinoWIKI had this photo...




Sorry, that's DinoKIWI...

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