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Jurassic World: Rebirth (July 2, 2025) 🦕

Started by Giganotosaurus, January 22, 2024, 08:12:19 PM

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Giganotosaurus

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My top 3 of the franchise so far:

Jurassic Park
Jurassic Park III
Fallen Kingdom

I hope Rebirth at least gets to third place.

I really hope we get a Ceratosaurus again!!!! Plus, an adult Dilophosaurus this time around!
Mosasurus on Jurassic Mainframe and JPToys
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I love all the Jurassic movies, plus Disney's Dinosaur


CityRaptor

Quote from: DinoToyForum on February 04, 2025, 09:27:56 PM
Quote from: Libraraptor on February 04, 2025, 08:39:45 PMAlright then, I was wrong in the day...All the teasers said "New Trailer Wednesday", and I thought today was Wednesday...Sorry...So I was right, it WAS KI-bulls*** ^-^

KI?


Künstliche Intelligenz....same as AI, but in German.


Designs are looking better so far. So there are at least 3 Spinosaurus specimens and they are either rivals or working with the Mosasaurus...it's also nice to have another non-Rexy T.rex on the big screen that is more than just a cameo.
Jurassic Park is frightning in the dark
All the dinosaurs are running wild
Someone let T. Rex out of his pen
I'm afraid those things'll harm me
'Cause they sure don't act like Barney
And they think that I'm their dinner, not their friend
Oh no

Sim

For me the top three films in the franchise are JP, JP3 and JWFK.  I don't care about the other existing films.  I expect JWR to make it into a new top 3 for me, it's looking promising so far.  I would like it if Psittacosaurus appeared in Rebirth, as that would probably mean it would get made into a Jurassic world mini figure!  Maybe Mattel can make one even if it doesn't appear!  But I expect the next wave of Mattel figures will be based on the animals appearing in Rebirth?

MLMjp

#323
Jurassic Park, The Lost World, Jurassic World, those are the top 3 in the franchise.

Quote from: Giganotosaurus on February 04, 2025, 09:41:25 PMMy top 3 of the franchise so far:

Jurassic Park
Jurassic Park III
Fallen Kingdom

I hope Rebirth at least gets to third place.

I really hope we get a Ceratosaurus again!!!! Plus, a an adult Dilophosaurus this time around!

It always has been an adult. Dilophosaurus is canonically small in the films. Whatever some promotional material and non-canon videgames told you about a larger "adult" Dilophosaurus mean nothing.

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Quote from: CityRaptor on February 04, 2025, 09:59:38 PM
Quote from: DinoToyForum on February 04, 2025, 09:27:56 PM
Quote from: Libraraptor on February 04, 2025, 08:39:45 PMAlright then, I was wrong in the day...All the teasers said "New Trailer Wednesday", and I thought today was Wednesday...Sorry...So I was right, it WAS KI-bulls*** ^-^

KI?


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I've learned something today! 8)



Dilopho

Quote from: Sim on February 04, 2025, 10:01:50 PMFor me the top three films in the franchise are JP, JP3 and JWFK.  I don't care about the other existing films.  I expect JWR to make it into a new top 3 for me, it's looking promising so far.  I would like it if Psittacosaurus appeared in Rebirth, as that would probably mean it would get made into a Jurassic world mini figure!  Maybe Mattel can make one even if it doesn't appear!  But I expect the next wave of Mattel figures will be based on the animals appearing in Rebirth?
I don't know about Psittacosaurus, but there are rumours of Aquilops appearing which are supported by one of the new cartoon styled plushes seemingly being a hornless ceratopsian, Idk if I can post that but you can look it up easily.

Dilopho

Quote from: MLMjp on February 04, 2025, 10:18:13 PMJurassic Park, The Lost World, Jurassic World, those are the top 3 in the franchise.

Quote from: Giganotosaurus on February 04, 2025, 09:41:25 PMMy top 3 of the franchise so far:

Jurassic Park
Jurassic Park III
Fallen Kingdom

I hope Rebirth at least gets to third place.

I really hope we get a Ceratosaurus again!!!! Plus, a an adult Dilophosaurus this time around!

It always has been an adult. Dilophosaurus is canonically small in the films. Whatever some promotional material and non-canon videgames told you about a larger "adult" Dilophosaurus mean nothing.

In the same breath, they've never said the Dilophosaurus were adults in-film, have they? The films are the primary canon.
It's something I want too. I'm sick of them being so small. I assumed that Nedry's remark about bigger brothers was literal as a kid, and I still like to think of it that way.

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Sim

Thanks avatar_Dilopho @Dilopho.  I'm not sure whether I can trust the image of the plushies, there's so much fake stuff for Rebirth.

I too dislike the existing JP franchise Dilophosaurus.  It would have been more interesting if Dilophosaurus had been normal-sized and without a frill like in the JP novel.  The Dilophosaurus JP film appearance being treated as normal in Dominion is one of the reasons I dislike that film.

It's weird though that Dilophosaurus and Velociraptor had their sizes swapped in Jurassic Park.  I know it's extremely unlikely, but I wish in a future JP/JW film Velociraptor appears accurately or they stop calling their dromaeosaurids Velociraptor and switch back to Deinonychus, which was planned in the development of the film version of Jurassic Park.  Is it really necessary to keep portraying the dromaeosaurids so inaccurately?

Dilopho

Quote from: Sim on February 04, 2025, 10:56:39 PMThanks avatar_Dilopho @Dilopho.  I'm not sure whether I can trust the image of the plushies, there's so much fake stuff for Rebirth.

I too dislike the existing JP franchise Dilophosaurus.  It would have been more interesting if Dilophosaurus had been normal-sized and without a frill like in the JP novel.  The Dilophosaurus JP film appearance being treated as normal in Dominion is one of the reasons I dislike that film.

It's weird though that Dilophosaurus and Velociraptor had their sizes swapped in Jurassic Park.  I know it's extremely unlikely, but I wish in a future JP/JW film Velociraptor appears accurately or they stop calling their dromaeosaurids Velociraptor and switch back to Deinonychus, which was planned in the development of the film version of Jurassic Park.  Is it really necessary to keep portraying the dromaeosaurids so inaccurately?

I'm pretty sure the plushes are legit, they come from a toy catalogue and all of the species shown have since been confirmed for the film apart from that Aquilops (Or whatever it is). So we shall see. If it does appear, hopefully it's not as ugly as the Microceratus was in Dominion.
Everytime they take one of those beautiful website designs and redesign it to look worse I die a little more inside.

And I totally agree with you, I was surprised to see so many people react angrily to Coolio's Deinonychus in JP video and say that the original design shouldn't be changed and that it was disrespectful to update it in the video. From my point of view, it's only respectful and those animals in JP were designed to look great for the time, even though they had some flaws.

This is why I'm so happy to see the updated Spinosaurus. YES, my first reaction was to think the photo of the head is hideous, but if the body looks good then it's an overall win. I already see the more accurate long tail with the spine running down it. The Mosasaurus looks SO much better with the sharklike tail as well and a smoother back. Even small changes go a long way.

I was mad back in 2015 when JW's trailer showed they went backwards from the lovely JP3 raptors and their pretty faces and bird eyes. Those circular pupils really make such a difference, they add a certain thoughtfulness to the face that makes them feel smarter and more watchful. Let's see if they change that for Rebirth since Velociraptor is rumoured to appear in it, albeit not with a meaningful role (Probably just in the background or in some random quick encounter like The Lost World).

Sim

I too prefer the circular pupils on the Velociraptor.  That's what the Deinonychus in the video below have (a modified version of Coolio's video), as well as feathers and accuracy in general, and as good as the Velociraptor in Jurassic Park are in general and in the kitchen scene, the Deinonychus in the video below are scarier.


Dilopho

In any case, seeing the new updates to the dinosaurs and the T. rex returning to a faithful JP look (Goodbye skinny JW rex) has me happy when a year ago we were hearing rumours about the dinosaurs being redesigned to have a "King Kong" look to them, uglier and meaner.

Faelrin

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avatar_Sim @Sim I would love a Psittacosaurus from them, especially if they could do it right (with the tail quills I mean), but at least David's 1/18 one exists for what its worth (although a Mattel mini would also be pretty sweet).

If you're curious, I compiled all the listings I've found so far in the thread (no images for the new ones yet, other then the Chaos Theory packaged figures). I'm not 100% certain if some of those without images are for Rebirth or another wave of Chaos Theory, but I dumped them into that section for the meantime (I just got done splitting the Chaos Theory stuff from the potential Rebirth figures).

I remember reading leaks that the Atrociraptor in Dominion was originally intended to be Deinonychus, but they changed the name, if there was truth to them. And then there's the unfortunate JWE basilisk lizard beast that is Deinonychus is name only.

There is definitely a toxic subset of folks that are opposed to any updated reconstructions, because it strips away the fantasy of those designs living in their head or something, I don't know. I've seen so many over the years parrot the various lines in the later films (or the frog DNA one in the first) as to excuse their need to keep the dinosaur designs outdated, and just be outright aggressive against anyone showing preference for updated reconstructions. I've already seen some do that with with new Spinosaurus design, before and after it was revealed. It's either ignorance or outright disinformation on their parts to ignore that the designs for the first film were up to date for the time it came out and brought the general public up to speed on where the science was going on for several decades (minus the artistic license with things like the Dilophosaurus frill, Brachiosaurus chewing like a cow, etc). The Jurassic World films (at least until Dominion, but well some of the designs still have issues, like the Pyroraptor's head), disregard any of the current science to do whatever they wanted to do. I still remember an article describing them animating the animals moving like big mammals because they thought it would realistic or something like that (when it has the opposite effect when folks are informed as dinosaurs don't move like mammals), or that the Mosasaurus forked tongue was omitted from its final design, because it would come across as unbelievable, even though they intentionally oversized it to be over 100 feet long. Then there was the mess of a Baryonyx and "Sinoceratops" that came with Fallen Kingdom.

Granted it doesn't just stop with those Jurassic fans, and I do remember a post from Gabriel Ugueto last year or so that there's definitely overlap in the pushback towards recent paleontologist discoveries, and other hostile types of thinking such as bigotry, etc.

In short I don't think we'll see an updated and corrected Deinonychus (never mind they would need to correct a 30+ year old misconception regarding its name), because of those people would be up in arms about it especially if it were to replace the featherless style of design, but well, as far as Spinosaurus goes, well there it is, so who knows. In any case though I think it's partly why the new T. rex still bares resemblance to the original SWS designs. It's been the franchise mascot for too long, and same with the raptors. They might be able to justify the Spinosaurus as it has been over 20 years since it was on the big screen, and only the fans likely remember what it looked like then. Never mind them clearly being different specimens altogether.


I've also been wondering now, what design the upcoming HC Spinosaurus will use? Part of me sincerely hopes its of the JPIII design, because the old Legacy figure is showing its age (lack of articulation, oversized feet and too small tail, lack of paint detail), and there will be the new mainline figure of the new design(s). Though I also wouldn't be opposed to a HC figure of the new design as well, but the JPIII design is way overdue. It's the only major JPIII creature missing from the line too (maybe other then the male T. rex it killed). I'm also hoping we get a new HC of this new T. rex design too. Would easily make up for the canceled buck in the line, even if it might not be the same (might have lips?). Granted they've only done one dinosaur of each, except with the raptors when it comes to the HC. We still need the Dominion Parasaurolophus for example, but they seemed to have stopped doing the medium sized figures now that they've moved on to the medium large ones. And who knows when we'll get the Indominus rex either, so either Spinosaurus design could be in the wait for a bit more time.

Edit: The new Spinosaurus design is explained in that these were from an earlier attempt at cloning:

https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/story/jurassic-world-rebirth-first-look

QuoteThe squad is trying to retrieve genetic material that could lead to a medical breakthrough for humanity, but three decades later the mistakes made at that ruined facility have not gone away. They've endured—and only grown bigger. "These are the dinosaurs that didn't work. There's some mutations in there," Marshall says. "They're all based on real dinosaur research, but they look a little different."

Quote"A company that [Rupert Friend's character] represents discovers a way to cure heart disease," Marshall says, "but you need the DNA from the three largest dinosaurs on land, sea, and air. Those three dinosaurs exist on this island where they were first created, but it's a no-go zone."

It reveals the rumors about the mutant dinosaur are true. They describe it as like a combination of Rancor, HR Giger, and T. rex, which will be revealed in the trailer released tomorrow.

That image showing off the temple with the Quetzalcoatlus egg (I mean what else could possibly it be?) was directly inspired by the Indiana Jones films as well. The article above mentions this film will be like a mix of Jaws, Indiana Jones, and Jurassic Park. Sounds like it will be fun watch, even though I still have mixed thoughts on the way the plot is described or presented (which feels like a video game quest).

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Seems like Bailey's character might meet his end as well from the way the article presents things.
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Quote from: Sim on February 04, 2025, 06:49:32 PMThe Spinosaurus looks great to me so far!  I'm not seeing anything too bad about it.  I agree the Mosasaurus has been improved.  The Tyrannosaurus however looks as boring as the Tyrannosaurus in this franchise has always looked.

The JW Baryonyx head in that shot gives me Sci-Fi Channel /Asylum vibes. The mosa looks ok from what we can see. Kinda surprised the three Spinos are in the water with such a huge predator.  If the Spinos are here then I doubt they are what sneaks through the swamp and takes out the mutant.

On the contrary, it looks like the Rex is Kenner inspired which is JP novel inspired? Perfect for the scene in the book where Grant and the kids sneak by it or try to.

There is a scene in the trailer from TLW , where a monitor shows the true real life size of Dilophosaurus as the adult size.  I think, eventually we will see one. This film is supposed to spawn two more sequels.


Dilopho

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If they make a new HC Tyrannosaurus then they should really fix the mistakes of the old one or even just go for a whole new sculpt, the HC has improved leaps and bounds since the T. rex released. And I still haven't picked one up because I just can't vibe with the blunt ultra-yellow teeth or the super lanky legs with massive feet.

I don't get why these Spinosaurus are meant to be an earlier strain and yet look more genetically pure than the JP3 one, why?
ARE they old, or are they a newer BioSyn-type strain which simply sought out the island because it fits their needs?

I feel like if they could clone something like a Titanosaurus back then, it would be on Nublar, because of COURSE it would. They wouldn't even know what to feed it, but it's so impressive that it would be there. Then again, you could ask where the Mamenchisaurus were.

Brocc21

Quote from: Dilopho on February 05, 2025, 02:46:03 AMIf they make a new HC Tyrannosaurus then they should really fix the mistakes of the old one or even just go for a whole new sculpt, the HC has improved leaps and bounds since the T. rex released. And I still haven't picked one up because I just can't vibe with the blunt ultra-yellow teeth or the super lanky legs with massive feet.

I don't get why these Spinosaurus are meant to be an earlier strain and yet look more genetically pure than the JP3 one, why?
ARE they old, or are they a newer BioSyn-type strain which simply sought out the island because it fits their needs?

I feel like if they could clone something like a Titanosaurus back then, it would be on Nublar, because of COURSE it would. They wouldn't even know what to feed it, but it's so impressive that it would be there. Then again, you could ask where the Mamenchisaurus were.

In the original novel it's said that the older clones were more accurate to the original species, and that they had to edit them to be more "consumer friendly", or more like what people expected dinosaurs to be at the time. Dr Wu touches on something similar in the 2015 film. I think that would be a fair enough explanation, even if it's just an excuse to show the audience something new.
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dragon53

"In a recent interview with Vanity Fair, producer Frank Marshall revealed that the upcoming movie will adapt the infamous T-Rex chase scene from Michael Crichton's 1990 sci-fi novel.

The scene, for those unfamiliar, sees Alan Grant and John Hammond's grandchildren Tim and Lex trying to float through a lagoon on a rubber raft, all while trying to not wake up a sleeping T-Rex. Things go poorly, as they often do in Jurassic Park, leading to a big chase scene."



source: comingsoon

Faelrin

That's going to be the scene I'm most excited to see (other then what's up with all those spinos). Been wanting to see that on the big screen since I read the novel back in 9th grade in the mid 2000's.
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I must say I am really excited about the Spinosaurus-trio! Three different sails, three different colour-designs, modern interpretation...awesome! I am looking forward for their screentime and plot, aswell as the new Mosasaurus. 8)


What I hope is indeed, that there is not another mutant dinosaur and that this is just a rumor. After Indominus, Indoraptor and Scorpios rex...there is no need for somethig like that.

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PrimevalRaptor

Trailer is out

Some thoughts under the cut
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Not a fan of the short neck on the Spino, the head also feels weirdly boxy, this is the JW Baryonyx all over again...sigh. Love the sails still and the idea of them cooperating with the Mosa (which looks pretty damn good?) is cool at least.
The sail on the Titanosaurus is not that bad but I'm not really a fan, well I guess it could be a reference to that kaiju, who knows?
Waiting for more clear shots of the other guys...overall this looks like a fun adventure flick but...did we need to add in another hybrid/mutant?  ::)
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