Jurassic World: Rebirth (July 2, 2025) 🦕

[Sim]

Didn't early reporting say that the prehistoric animals in this film were the survivors that remained after the others didn't make it elsewhere, and that these survivors migrated to the island?  I thought I read that but now it's being said that the prehistoric animals in this film were rejects?

[Faelrin]

@Sim Yeah that was the case in the earlier articles. It's possible that was an earlier plot and direction being put out there versus what's there now. No idea. That said they still seem to be keeping the thing about the animals struggling to survive outside of this area.

[Sim]

Thanks @Faelrin.  I just re-watched the trailer and it simply says these animals were too dangerous for Jurassic Park.  I guess the movie will show what exactly is up with these animals.  I'm surprised though that Mosasaurus and Quetzalcoatlus are being called dinosaurs...  Is this an attempt by the franchise to change what the meaning of dinosaur is in everyday communication?

[Mellow Stego]

Looks good! I'm wondering if the Mosasaurus is blind and that's why the Spinos are with it?

[Dilopho]

Looks good! I'm wondering if the Mosasaurus is blind and that's why the Spinos are with it?

I was wondering that myself, it has very white eyes.

Thanks @Faelrin.  I just re-watched the trailer and it simply says these animals were too dangerous for Jurassic Park.  I guess the movie will show what exactly is up with these animals.  I'm surprised though that Mosasaurus and Quetzalcoatlus are being called dinosaurs...  Is this an attempt by the franchise to change what the meaning of dinosaur is in everyday communication?

We'll have to wait and see, but it's worth noting that the person saying that is the Pharmacist guy, not the scientist. I don't want them to address everything as a dinosaur, but maybe it's just the character saying that.
Sadly to the general audience, Quetz and Mosa are already dinosaurs.

[suspsy]

The new Spinosaurus' head is atrocious. Easily one of the ugliest cinematic dinosaurs of all time. And I'm not talking cool ugly like the Predator or the xenomorphs or all the creatures from Pacific Rim. No, it's just straight up ugly. The JP3 version had a much better head.

As for the trailer itself, it looks like just more of the same rehashed plot points that David Koepp has been dishing out for far too long now. I had low expectations before and they're even lower now.

[Sim]

I don't feel the new Spinosaurus design is as bad as some feel.  The JP3 version was more aesthetically appealing for sure, but it was more inaccurate than this new one since it had paired lacrimal crests instead of the single midline crest the new one has, plus the lower jaw of the JP3 version doesn't match the distinctive shape of the real animal's (which is inexcusable) while this new one does look like the real animal's.

[HD-man]

But yeah, what..what is that thing? That thing doesn't look good. When they said failed clone, I thought it would look like, yknow, a dinosaur. Just a really deformed one with some conjoined twin elements.
Not an alien monster.

My thoughts exactly! When I 1st heard about Rebirth's mutant, I thought it'd be like the cancelled TLW animated series:

Why is the dialog so dang goofy and joke-filled.

Again, my thoughts exactly! When I 1st heard about Rebirth going back to JP's horror roots, I thought a good way to show that would be to make a trailer like JP's:

There was a text "leak" which said the Spinosaurus had an M-shaped sail.  Plus, if I remember right the colourations were said to be confirmed.

Fair enough.

I don't agree the new sounds don't match the visuals, I think the resound version is an improvement over the original.

@Sim Sorry to be the "actually" guy, but the lack of matching is especially noticeable at 0:17-18 (I.e. The OG sound Tim reacted to isn't there anymore, yet isn't replaced w/anything similarly loud/gasp-inducing, making Tim's reaction to seemingly nothing look weird) & 0:54-55 (I.e. Given how loud/high-pitched the OG raptor call is, Tim immediately covering his ears makes perfect sense, but the new raptor call is anything but loud/high-pitched).

especially given the fact that the original wasn't up to par in terms of accuracy either.

@Bread Again, sorry to be the "actually" guy, but for the time, it mostly was: https://archive.ph/zolGS

Also, another spoiler says they are looking for the largest dinosaurs of land, sea, and air. If they call Mosasaurus and Quetzalcoatlus dinosaurs on screen I'm gonna make a scene at the theater, lol.

My biggest annoyance is labeling them all "dinosaurs" or as the article kept claimimg, big lizards.  Let's just use some Crystal Palace creations eh?  lol

Thanks @Faelrin.  I just re-watched the trailer and it simply says these animals were too dangerous for Jurassic Park.  I guess the movie will show what exactly is up with these animals.  I'm surprised though that Mosasaurus and Quetzalcoatlus are being called dinosaurs...  Is this an attempt by the franchise to change what the meaning of dinosaur is in everyday communication?

I'm honestly surprised by how many of you are surprised. Even if you haven't followed any of Rebirth's marketing, JW has been referring to non-dinos as dinos from the beginning (& especially when marketing Dominion: https://www.goldderby.com/article/2022/top-chef-19-episode-7-recap-swallow-the-competition/ ). Yes, it's still very cringey, but nothing new.

[suspsy]

I don't feel the new Spinosaurus design is as bad as some feel.  The JP3 version was more aesthetically appealing for sure, but it was more inaccurate than this new one since it had paired lacrimal crests instead of the single midline crest the new one has, plus the lower jaw of the JP3 version doesn't match the distinctive shape of the real animal's (which is inexcusable) while this new one does look like the real animal's.

Wrong. Thomas Holtz summed it up on Facebook earlier today.

The JPIII Spinosaurus head vs. the new one. Ironically, the two decade old one is far more accurate. Nothing to worry about this Spinosaurus' bite, though: its infratemporal fenestra (which housed most of the jaw muscles) has been replaced with the LARGEST ear hole in history.

(The giant auditory meatus might be compensating for the fact that they forgot to put it in most of the dinosaurs in the Jurassic World trilogy...)

[Blade-of-the-Moon]

I don't feel the new Spinosaurus design is as bad as some feel.  The JP3 version was more aesthetically appealing for sure, but it was more inaccurate than this new one since it had paired lacrimal crests instead of the single midline crest the new one has, plus the lower jaw of the JP3 version doesn't match the distinctive shape of the real animal's (which is inexcusable) while this new one does look like the real animal's.

Wrong. Thomas Holtz summed it up on Facebook earlier today.

The JPIII Spinosaurus head vs. the new one. Ironically, the two decade old one is far more accurate. Nothing to worry about this Spinosaurus' bite, though: its infratemporal fenestra (which housed most of the jaw muscles) has been replaced with the LARGEST ear hole in history.

(The giant auditory meatus might be compensating for the fact that they forgot to put it in most of the dinosaurs in the Jurassic World trilogy...)

I'd like an interview with the paleo fact checker to see what he has to say for himself.

[Blade-of-the-Moon]

Apparently, Gareth Edwards states in the Variety article that the mutant is inspired by the rancor, xenomorph, and T. rex. Yeah, I guess that tracks. The problem is that the rancor and xenomorphs are not dinosaurs, and certainly wouldn't be used in the creation of one. 

I've been pretty negative so far but there are things in the trailer that I liked. As others have pointed out, the cinematography, color, and setting all look nice. I've also seen it said that the facility looks too futuristic for having been bult in the 1980's and I have to agree with that. But focusing on what looks good, I think that's a result of Edwards being the director. It's the story that looks like crap to me, and that would be Koepp's fault. I know a lot of people thought bringing him back would be a good thing but The Lost World is not a well written film and Koepp has other stinkers to his name, like Crystal Skull.

About the dinosaur designs. I'm happy to see Dilophosaurus return. Seeing as how it was absent from 4 of the 6 films I'll always get excited about its inclusion. The Quetz is a downgrade from the one we get in Dominion but not completely awful. The Spinosaurus is a mixed bag but the head design is far worse than the one from JP3. I like the new Tyrannosaurus. I wasn't even sure there would be a T. rex in the film and I'm alright with them staying loyal to the original design but making it clear that it's a new individual. I don't like the fins on the Titanosaurus. I find it odd that this island is supposed to be where the rejected dinosaurs got dumped but aside from the mutant I don't see anything about any of them that suggests they should be shunned and hidden away. Maybe their problems are more psychological than they are outwardly apparent.

If that titanosaurus takes off someone's head with a whip of that tail or stomps one I'll forgive it. Where the Brachios are pretty docile these might be highly aggressive.

[Over9K]

Huh... Black Widow VS Jurassic Park... interesting...

[Paleo Flo]

Puh...after a few hours of sleep and after reading your dear comments I came to the conclusion not to prejudge the movie by the trailer.

I have to admit that this is not an easy task. One reason is this imo unnecessary mutant thing (I guess the scene with the poor guy in protective suit might be a flashback). And I miss the promised Jurassic Park-Feeling which was proclaimed eraly in the marketing.

I had high hopes for giving me a feeling of TLW or maybe JP3, but I guess today everything has to be soulless action with Scarlett Johansson be the Chris Pratt of this film.

Maybe the design choices will make sense when we actually watch the movie.

I hope taht the trailer is badder as the movie is...we will see

[Libraraptor]

I didn't have high expectations, but now I realize that even those have been undercut. But I am not disappointed. The JP / JW franchise has been disappointing me since 1993.

[Sim]

@Sim Sorry to be the "actually" guy, but the lack of matching is especially noticeable at 0:17-18 (I.e. The OG sound Tim reacted to isn't there anymore, yet isn't replaced w/anything similarly loud/gasp-inducing, making Tim's reaction to seemingly nothing look weird) & 0:54-55 (I.e. Given how loud/high-pitched the OG raptor call is, Tim immediately covering his ears makes perfect sense, but the new raptor call is anything but loud/high-pitched).

Thanks for sharing your view.  I hadn't noticed the first one, I simply took it as Tim being scared of seeing the Deinonychus through the glass.  As for the second one, I interpreted it as Tim being afraid of the Deinonychus again through hearing it.  I think the original version of the latter scene is as likely as the modified version, and I've always found the original sound the JP Velociraptor make inappropriate for the animal.  So I definitely prefer the new version.

I'm honestly surprised by how many of you are surprised. Even if you haven't followed any of Rebirth's marketing, JW has been referring to non-dinos as dinos from the beginning (& especially when marketing Dominion: https://www.goldderby.com/article/2022/top-chef-19-episode-7-recap-swallow-the-competition/ ). Yes, it's still very cringey, but nothing new.

I've never followed the JP franchise much, so I thought it was new for the franchise to do that.  If the JW series has been calling these animals dinosaurs when they aren't, I ask again if the franchise is trying to change what dinosaur means?

[Faelrin]

@Sim I think it's just a matter of ignorance as @Dilopho mentioned earlier. Most of the general public calls any Mesozoic reptile a dinosaur (and some non Mesozoic animals like extant crocodilians too), so it wouldn't surprise me if people working on this film didn't know any better.

[Turkeysaurus]

I mean there is a giant xenomorph looking thing out there, i think they don't mind what's a dinosaur and what's not at this point. 

[Dilopho]

@Sim I think it's just a matter of ignorance as @Dilopho mentioned earlier. Most of the general public calls any Mesozoic reptile a dinosaur (and some non Mesozoic animals like extant crocodilians too), so it wouldn't surprise me if people working on this film didn't know any better.

I've literally known people who said grey wolves are dinosaurs and I'm not kidding

[Sim]

Regarding the Spinosaurus's head, I'm not sure if shadow is making the ear hole look bigger in the trailer, the ear is smaller in the artwork that was posted earlier in this thread.  It does appear to be misplaced though.  But on this subject, I haven't seen anyone say anything about the earhole being misplaced in the many PNSO figures where this occurs.  I'm also not convinced the JP3 version is more accurate, an ear problem seems just as bad as inaccurate skull features.

[HD-man]

The spinosaurus just looks like the JW Baryonyx model (which is quite horrible by the way) with sail.
"titanosaurus" There are literally dozens of large sauropods and they come with that THING with sails and a whip like tail ... in titanosaurus?? Just the type of sauropods that didn't have such long TAILS?? ARE YOU JUST JOKING??

To be fair, this isn't the 1st time a giant titanosaur has been reconstructed w/a similarly whip-like tail. I'm not saying it's right/wrong, just that it's nothing new: https://www.syfy.com/syfy-wire/we-thought-we-knew-the-most-immense-dinosaur-ever


On a related note, I just found out about Arturo García's Spino redesign, which is MUCH closer to both what Frank Marshall said ("They're all based on real dinosaur research, but they look a little different": https://archive.ph/KFMoZ ) & what I hoped for ( https://dinotoyblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=11253.msg388667#msg388667 ):