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Haolonggood - New for 2025

Started by Halichoeres, January 03, 2025, 09:22:18 PM

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Duna

Quote from: thomasw100 on March 04, 2025, 05:53:36 PM
Quote from: Joliezac on March 04, 2025, 05:21:14 PMI just got my blue Brachiosaurus in the mail yesterday!! Really gorgeous model. I'm glad I waited for years to get a Brachio, this one is gorgeous. Although I still don't know where to put it. Currently it is on my desk next to the Argentinosaurus.

Strangely though mine had a very strong factory/paint smell to it. It actually was making me feel sick and I had to put it in the bathtub and repeatedly hose it down. It still has a strong smell though, did anyone else experience this? None of my other HLG figures have been this way...

Mine also has 2 fairly large brown paint blotches on the neck unfortunately. I will have to try to paint over it to hide it, it is pretty distracting.

I was very happy to get the blueberry colored Huayangosaurus though! Such a beautifully detailed model.

Essentially all of my Haolonggood sauropod figures had that paint smell when unpacked. I think this is because they tried to finish them as fast as possible so that they could be shipped out to all customers who had placed pre orders. It needs a week or two for the paint smell to disappear com9letely. My Brachiosaurus has also two small black paint blotches in places where the do not belong, but this should be easy to fix.
It is absolutely FALSE that the smell comes from the figure and no, it is not caused by hurrying up the packing.
Yes, I also noticed that in my Argentinosaurus figure: a very, very strong smell. And guess? I knew from the first moment that it wasn't from the figure, but from the foam, because it is exactly how it smells. So I smelled the figure and surprise, NO smell or a very very faint smell in some parts (where the plastic bag doesn't protect it). I smelled the foam, and yes, it was undoubtely the foam. The paint Haolonggood uses is safe and has no smell.


Flaffy

#821
Quote from: Duna on March 04, 2025, 08:36:31 PM
Quote from: thomasw100 on March 04, 2025, 05:53:36 PM
Quote from: Joliezac on March 04, 2025, 05:21:14 PMI just got my blue Brachiosaurus in the mail yesterday!! Really gorgeous model. I'm glad I waited for years to get a Brachio, this one is gorgeous. Although I still don't know where to put it. Currently it is on my desk next to the Argentinosaurus.

Strangely though mine had a very strong factory/paint smell to it. It actually was making me feel sick and I had to put it in the bathtub and repeatedly hose it down. It still has a strong smell though, did anyone else experience this? None of my other HLG figures have been this way...

Mine also has 2 fairly large brown paint blotches on the neck unfortunately. I will have to try to paint over it to hide it, it is pretty distracting.

I was very happy to get the blueberry colored Huayangosaurus though! Such a beautifully detailed model.

Essentially all of my Haolonggood sauropod figures had that paint smell when unpacked. I think this is because they tried to finish them as fast as possible so that they could be shipped out to all customers who had placed pre orders. It needs a week or two for the paint smell to disappear com9letely. My Brachiosaurus has also two small black paint blotches in places where the do not belong, but this should be easy to fix.
It is absolutely FALSE that the smell comes from the figure and no, it is not caused by hurrying up the packing.
Yes, I also noticed that in my Argentinosaurus figure: a very, very strong smell. And guess? I knew from the first moment that it wasn't from the figure, but from the foam, because it is exactly how it smells. So I smelled the figure and surprise, NO smell or a very very faint smell in some parts (where the plastic bag doesn't protect it). I smelled the foam, and yes, it was undoubtely the foam. The paint Haolonggood uses is safe and has no smell.

I've found that it is a mixture of both. Strength of smell from either the figure itself or foam packaging varies from individual to individual. I've smelt similar in figures by other companies that don't use foam packaging, and there is definietly a distinct new plastic/paint smell to any freshly produced figure that hasn't been aired out.

thomasw100

#822
Quote from: Duna on March 04, 2025, 08:36:31 PM
Quote from: thomasw100 on March 04, 2025, 05:53:36 PM
Quote from: Joliezac on March 04, 2025, 05:21:14 PMI just got my blue Brachiosaurus in the mail yesterday!! Really gorgeous model. I'm glad I waited for years to get a Brachio, this one is gorgeous. Although I still don't know where to put it. Currently it is on my desk next to the Argentinosaurus.

Strangely though mine had a very strong factory/paint smell to it. It actually was making me feel sick and I had to put it in the bathtub and repeatedly hose it down. It still has a strong smell though, did anyone else experience this? None of my other HLG figures have been this way...

Mine also has 2 fairly large brown paint blotches on the neck unfortunately. I will have to try to paint over it to hide it, it is pretty distracting.

I was very happy to get the blueberry colored Huayangosaurus though! Such a beautifully detailed model.

Essentially all of my Haolonggood sauropod figures had that paint smell when unpacked. I think this is because they tried to finish them as fast as possible so that they could be shipped out to all customers who had placed pre orders. It needs a week or two for the paint smell to disappear com9letely. My Brachiosaurus has also two small black paint blotches in places where the do not belong, but this should be easy to fix.
It is absolutely FALSE that the smell comes from the figure and no, it is not caused by hurrying up the packing.
Yes, I also noticed that in my Argentinosaurus figure: a very, very strong smell. And guess? I knew from the first moment that it wasn't from the figure, but from the foam, because it is exactly how it smells. So I smelled the figure and surprise, NO smell or a very very faint smell in some parts (where the plastic bag doesn't protect it). I smelled the foam, and yes, it was undoubtely the foam. The paint Haolonggood uses is safe and has no smell.

There is a smell from the foam, but this you have for both larger and smaller figures. This disappears very quickly, sometimes in a day or few days. The large sauropods do also have a smell from the paint which takes a bit longer to disappear. This is a different smell.

I did not say anything about the safety of the paint and indeed the paint should be perfectly safe because this should be part of th CE certification they have. So what exactly then would be the issue?

Turkeysaurus

#823
There are showanna T.Rex photos on Paleofiguras. I posted on showanna 2025 thread.

It must be PVC one, right?
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Now Haolonggood's turn.

Blade-of-the-Moon

Yeah that's the Showanna. I have to say the head isn't very flattering in that pic.

SidB

Quote from: Blade-of-the-Moon on March 05, 2025, 03:53:23 PMYeah that's the Showanna. I have to say the head isn't very flattering in that pic.
Hopefully, it's just the angle of the head in relation to the camera.

Turkeysaurus

Quote from: SidB on March 05, 2025, 04:01:16 PM
Quote from: Blade-of-the-Moon on March 05, 2025, 03:53:23 PMYeah that's the Showanna. I have to say the head isn't very flattering in that pic.
Hopefully, it's just the angle of the head in relation to the camera.

There are many pics from different angles on Paleofiguras Facebook or showanna thread here. I didn't post them all here but maybe i should.

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Quote from: Turkeysaurus on March 05, 2025, 04:15:58 PM
Quote from: SidB on March 05, 2025, 04:01:16 PM
Quote from: Blade-of-the-Moon on March 05, 2025, 03:53:23 PMYeah that's the Showanna. I have to say the head isn't very flattering in that pic.
Hopefully, it's just the angle of the head in relation to the camera.

There are many pics from different angles on Paleofiguras Facebook or showanna thread here. I didn't post them all here but maybe i should.

No need I just saw them in the Showanna thread and on FB.

SidB

Quote from: Turkeysaurus on March 05, 2025, 04:15:58 PM
Quote from: SidB on March 05, 2025, 04:01:16 PM
Quote from: Blade-of-the-Moon on March 05, 2025, 03:53:23 PMYeah that's the Showanna. I have to say the head isn't very flattering in that pic.
Hopefully, it's just the angle of the head in relation to the camera.

There are many pics from different angles on Paleofiguras Facebook or showanna thread here. I didn't post them all here but maybe i should.
No problem, avatar_Turkeysaurus @Turkeysaurus , I've just now seen them.

Dino_W

#829
Quote from: Turkeysaurus on March 05, 2025, 03:00:01 PMThere are showanna T.Rex photos on Paleofiguras. I posted on showanna 2025 thread.

It must be PVC one, right?
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Now Haolonggood's turn.


The Showanna definitely looks quite good. However, the detail is not on par with PNSO or possibly even Haolonggood by the looks of it, additionally the paint appears a bit sloppy on the teeth and eyes. Overall, it could be a nice figure, but $70 is too high IMO. Still, for a first PVC figure from Showanna, it's not bad.

thomasw100

What I have learned from this discussion about Showanna T. rex is that apparently it is not easy but rather challenging to turn an excellent sculpt into a top quality PVC figure with fine and richly detailed surface texture. This makes me appreciate the high quality standards of PNSO and Haolonggood figures even more.

SidB

Quote from: thomasw100 on March 06, 2025, 06:25:59 AMWhat I have learned from this discussion about Showanna T. rex is that apparently it is not easy but rather challenging to turn an excellent sculpt into a top quality PVC figure with fine and richly detailed surface texture. This makes me appreciate the high quality standards of PNSO and Haolonggood figures even more.
Yes, and all within a manageable budget relative to offering a product whose price is going to be on this side of the moon.

Concavenator

#832
Quote from: Halichoeres on March 02, 2025, 12:16:13 AMLooks fine, but not superlative enough to break my T rex boycott for.

I thought Tyrannosaurus was on your "no buy list" alongside Spinosaurus, Carcharodontosaurus and Giganotosaurus. But after reading that post, would you get another Tyrannosaurus if it was superlative enough to be considered "perfect"? Merely asking out of curiosity.


Sim

Quote from: Concavenator on March 06, 2025, 05:45:52 PMI thought Tyrannosaurus was on your "no buy list" alongside Spinosaurus, Carcharodontosaurus and Giganotosaurus. But after reading that post, would you get another Tyrannosaurus if it was superlative enough to be considered "perfect"? Merely asking out of curiosity.
Not just Carch and Giga, I remember he said all carcharodontosaurids ;D  Which is understandable.

Concavenator

#834
Quote from: Sim on March 06, 2025, 08:26:51 PM
Quote from: Concavenator on March 06, 2025, 05:45:52 PMI thought Tyrannosaurus was on your "no buy list" alongside Spinosaurus, Carcharodontosaurus and Giganotosaurus. But after reading that post, would you get another Tyrannosaurus if it was superlative enough to be considered "perfect"? Merely asking out of curiosity.
Not just Carch and Giga, I remember he said all carcharodontosaurids ;D  Which is understandable.

Makes sense. I recall he got PNSO's Meraxes, perhaps the fact that a friend of his took part in its description encouraged it. He also has PNSO's Mapusaurus, but I recall it was a copy that was sent to him to review.

Halichoeres

#835
Quote from: Concavenator on March 06, 2025, 08:33:37 PM
Quote from: Sim on March 06, 2025, 08:26:51 PM
Quote from: Concavenator on March 06, 2025, 05:45:52 PMI thought Tyrannosaurus was on your "no buy list" alongside Spinosaurus, Carcharodontosaurus and Giganotosaurus. But after reading that post, would you get another Tyrannosaurus if it was superlative enough to be considered "perfect"? Merely asking out of curiosity.
Not just Carch and Giga, I remember he said all carcharodontosaurids ;D  Which is understandable.

Makes sense. I recall he got PNSO's Meraxes, perhaps the fact that a friend of his took part in its description encouraged it. He also has PNSO's Mapusaurus, but I recall it was a copy that was sent to him to review.


Yeah, Meraxes was for sentimental reasons in some respects. And Mapusaurus was for review. For me to buy a new Tyrannosaurus, it would have to be very nearly perfect, and also it would have to be released after a pretty long hiatus from Tyrannosaurus, at least from the relevant company. So practically speaking, it will never happen.
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Faelrin

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avatar_Halichoeres @Halichoeres What would you say would be the most informed one on the current market is? Like for the list in your collection thread? Would it be Eofauna's? Not for you to buy of course, but say for folks wanting an updated one in their collection? Or would it better to wait for a hypothetical PNSO one with extra oral tissue?

I watched the Ben G Thomas video on the Eofauna figure recently, and I was surprised to see Eofauna had not only taken the time to correct any issue's with Sue's 3D reconstruction, but was diligent with the research into its soft tissue (body muscles, mouth covering, etc).

I realize this Showanna one is based on another specimen of this animal, but I'm not sure it has enough extra oral tissue based on the latest paper on the matter, and the osteoderm looking things over its body seem purely speculative, and not something represented in the current evidence that I'm aware of.
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Quote from: Faelrin on March 08, 2025, 07:35:19 PMavatar_Halichoeres @Halichoeres What would you say would be the most informed one on the current market is? Like for the list in your collection thread? Would it be Eofauna's? Not for you to buy of course, but say for folks wanting an updated one in their collection? Or would it better to wait for a hypothetical PNSO one with extra oral tissue?

I watched the Ben G Thomas video on the Eofauna figure recently, and I was surprised to see Eofauna had not only taken the time to correct any issue's with Sue's 3D reconstruction, but was diligent with the research into its soft tissue (body muscles, mouth covering, etc).

I realize this Showanna one is based on another specimen of this animal, but I'm not sure it has enough extra oral tissue based on the latest paper on the matter, and the osteoderm looking things over its body seem purely speculative, and not something represented in the current evidence that I'm aware of.

I think it's worth noting that both PNSO and I believe Haolonggood also do in-depth soft tissue reconstruction. PNSO's musculature is arguably more accurate than Eofauna's. I'd say Eofauna overall is generally pretty consistently accurate, but a theropod specialist I talked to had several issues with the musculature of the Eofauna Tyrannosaurus. Eofauna's models are probably a bit more well-researched than PNSO's on average, but PNSO seems more skilled in terms of archosaurian reconstruction. Haolonggood's recons are nice, but sometimes have some noticeable inaccuracies due to lack of research (ie. Triceratops neck scales).

Oral tissue is still not a fully settled debate, but I think it's more likely than not that the teeth were fully covered in some way given the lack of wear observed compared to extant crocodilians. I do somewhat doubt that the specifically varanid-like lip recons would work on theropods like Tyrannosaurus because of how much soft tissue overhang it would require. Still, lips are far from definitively proven AFAIK.

As far as I am aware, PNSO's Cameron is very accurate in terms of overall proportions, musculature, and integument, but the lack of lips kinda kills it for me. IMO the way Cameron's teeth are depicted borders on tooth slippage. Eofauna's rex has nice lips, good proportions, and an interesting color scheme, but has some muscle recon issues. Rebor's kiss has severe issues with musculature and some issues with skull shape, as well as the fact that it is closer to 1:30 scale rather than the advertised 1:35. Overall, the lipped rex with the least innaccuracies so far might actually be BOTM's, with some concessions for the articulation. IIRC BOTM's rex has a skull which is too large, but other than that I am not aware of any other issues.

At the moment I would say there is no "perfect" mass-produced rex model.

thebermuda303

Quote from: Dino_W on March 08, 2025, 09:19:51 PM
Quote from: Faelrin on March 08, 2025, 07:35:19 PMavatar_Halichoeres @Halichoeres What would you say would be the most informed one on the current market is? Like for the list in your collection thread? Would it be Eofauna's? Not for you to buy of course, but say for folks wanting an updated one in their collection? Or would it better to wait for a hypothetical PNSO one with extra oral tissue?

I watched the Ben G Thomas video on the Eofauna figure recently, and I was surprised to see Eofauna had not only taken the time to correct any issue's with Sue's 3D reconstruction, but was diligent with the research into its soft tissue (body muscles, mouth covering, etc).

I realize this Showanna one is based on another specimen of this animal, but I'm not sure it has enough extra oral tissue based on the latest paper on the matter, and the osteoderm looking things over its body seem purely speculative, and not something represented in the current evidence that I'm aware of.

I think it's worth noting that both PNSO and I believe Haolonggood also do in-depth soft tissue reconstruction. PNSO's musculature is arguably more accurate than Eofauna's. I'd say Eofauna overall is generally pretty consistently accurate, but a theropod specialist I talked to had several issues with the musculature of the Eofauna Tyrannosaurus. Eofauna's models are probably a bit more well-researched than PNSO's on average, but PNSO seems more skilled in terms of archosaurian reconstruction. Haolonggood's recons are nice, but sometimes have some noticeable inaccuracies due to lack of research (ie. Triceratops neck scales).

Oral tissue is still not a fully settled debate, but I think it's more likely than not that the teeth were fully covered in some way given the lack of wear observed compared to extant crocodilians. I do somewhat doubt that the specifically varanid-like lip recons would work on theropods like Tyrannosaurus because of how much soft tissue overhang it would require. Still, lips are far from definitively proven AFAIK.

As far as I am aware, PNSO's Cameron is very accurate in terms of overall proportions, musculature, and integument, but the lack of lips kinda kills it for me. IMO the way Cameron's teeth are depicted borders on tooth slippage. Eofauna's rex has nice lips, good proportions, and an interesting color scheme, but has some muscle recon issues. Rebor's kiss has severe issues with musculature and some issues with skull shape, as well as the fact that it is closer to 1:30 scale rather than the advertised 1:35. Overall, the lipped rex with the least innaccuracies so far might actually be BOTM's, with some concessions for the articulation. IIRC BOTM's rex has a skull which is too large, but other than that I am not aware of any other issues.

At the moment I would say there is no "perfect" mass-produced rex model.
What exactly is wrong about eofauna's musculature? I'm just really curious.

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