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Jurassic World: Rebirth (July 2, 2025) 🦕

Started by Giganotosaurus, January 22, 2024, 08:12:19 PM

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Sim

I don't see a connection between exterminating the JP3 Spinosaurus and the JWR Spinosaurus.


Gwangi

Quote from: suspsy on April 16, 2025, 10:17:39 PM
Quote from: Sim on April 16, 2025, 09:09:45 PM
Quote from: suspsy on April 16, 2025, 03:55:39 PMImagine if there's a throwaway line in Rebirth about how the JP3 Spinosaurus really was a hybrid the whole time, and that it's since been exterminated. Sure, it would infuriate a lot of fans, but at the same time, it would be a perfect explanation for the appearance of the new Spinosaurus.
The new Spinosaurus are apparently older than the JP3 Spinosaurus, so that I don't think what you've said would explain anything.  Additionally, I see no relevance to exterminating the JP3 Spinosaurus.

Actually, it would explain things perfectly if you really think about it. InGen creates those three first, but management declares that they're ugly and tourists won't like them, so they order Wu to create a "better" version. And stating that it's dead would cement the Rebirth Spinosaurus trio's status as the real deal.

I think that's how they'll try to spin the discrepancy, if they even acknowledge it. Since Rebirth's is an island of rejects it makes perfect sense to me. And in the Jurassic Park novel there is a lengthy discussion about making the dinosaurs accurate vs. making them look how the public expects them to. The "accurate" but ugly Spinosaurus in Rebirth may not have done well with test audiences. Really would have been a great time to get some rejected feathered Velociraptor but all well.

I don't see why the JP3 Spinosaurus needs to be declared dead though, it could probably be left ambiguous. I was going to mention that the Spinosaurus skeleton in Jurassic World could be the JP3 one but the Spinosaurus shows up in Camp Cretaceous so...guess not. In Camp Cretaceous is gets chased off by the Tyrannosaurus pair (Big and Little Eatie) after losing a fight and I think we're supposed to assume it died but it is never shown.

suspsy

Quote from: Sim on April 16, 2025, 11:03:53 PMI don't see a connection between exterminating the JP3 Spinosaurus and the JWR Spinosaurus.

Because it would explain why the former was never, ever seen again on screen.
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Dilopho

Quote from: suspsy on April 16, 2025, 11:34:05 PM
Quote from: Sim on April 16, 2025, 11:03:53 PMI don't see a connection between exterminating the JP3 Spinosaurus and the JWR Spinosaurus.

Because it would explain why the former was never, ever seen again on screen.
It's in Camp Cretaceous

suspsy

Quote from: Dilopho on April 17, 2025, 12:05:14 AM
Quote from: suspsy on April 16, 2025, 11:34:05 PM
Quote from: Sim on April 16, 2025, 11:03:53 PMI don't see a connection between exterminating the JP3 Spinosaurus and the JWR Spinosaurus.

Because it would explain why the former was never, ever seen again on screen.
It's in Camp Cretaceous

True, although we don't yet know if Camp Cretaceous will be considered canon or not in Rebirth, which is supposed to be something of a reboot, or at least that's what was said about it. Many moviegoers have no clue that CC even exists. But even if it is still canon, the Spinosaurus hasn't been seen since 2018 according to the JP Wiki.
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Dilopho

Quote from: suspsy on April 17, 2025, 01:42:05 AMTrue, although we don't yet know if Camp Cretaceous will be considered canon or not in Rebirth, which is supposed to be something of a reboot, or at least that's what was said about it. Many moviegoers have no clue that CC even exists. But even if it is still canon, the Spinosaurus hasn't been seen since 2018 according to the JP Wiki.

They said they were keeping everything that came before canon for Rebirth, that has to include CC since that's canon too.
So the Spinosaurus is presumably alive or has died from old age.

The dinosaurs from Mantah Corp. Island were shifted to the mainland according to Chaos Theory s1.

suspsy

Quote from: Dilopho on April 17, 2025, 03:09:05 AM
Quote from: suspsy on April 17, 2025, 01:42:05 AMTrue, although we don't yet know if Camp Cretaceous will be considered canon or not in Rebirth, which is supposed to be something of a reboot, or at least that's what was said about it. Many moviegoers have no clue that CC even exists. But even if it is still canon, the Spinosaurus hasn't been seen since 2018 according to the JP Wiki.

They said they were keeping everything that came before canon for Rebirth, that has to include CC since that's canon too.
So the Spinosaurus is presumably alive or has died from old age.

The dinosaurs from Mantah Corp. Island were shifted to the mainland according to Chaos Theory s1.

I'll take your word for it. In any case, retconing the JP3 beast as a hybrid would absolutely explain the radically different appearance of the Rebirth trio.
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Blade-of-the-Moon

Quote from: Gwangi on April 16, 2025, 11:33:26 PM
Quote from: suspsy on April 16, 2025, 10:17:39 PM
Quote from: Sim on April 16, 2025, 09:09:45 PM
Quote from: suspsy on April 16, 2025, 03:55:39 PMImagine if there's a throwaway line in Rebirth about how the JP3 Spinosaurus really was a hybrid the whole time, and that it's since been exterminated. Sure, it would infuriate a lot of fans, but at the same time, it would be a perfect explanation for the appearance of the new Spinosaurus.
The new Spinosaurus are apparently older than the JP3 Spinosaurus, so that I don't think what you've said would explain anything.  Additionally, I see no relevance to exterminating the JP3 Spinosaurus.

Actually, it would explain things perfectly if you really think about it. InGen creates those three first, but management declares that they're ugly and tourists won't like them, so they order Wu to create a "better" version. And stating that it's dead would cement the Rebirth Spinosaurus trio's status as the real deal.

I think that's how they'll try to spin the discrepancy, if they even acknowledge it. Since Rebirth's is an island of rejects it makes perfect sense to me. And in the Jurassic Park novel there is a lengthy discussion about making the dinosaurs accurate vs. making them look how the public expects them to. The "accurate" but ugly Spinosaurus in Rebirth may not have done well with test audiences. Really would have been a great time to get some rejected feathered Velociraptor but all well.

I don't see why the JP3 Spinosaurus needs to be declared dead though, it could probably be left ambiguous. I was going to mention that the Spinosaurus skeleton in Jurassic World could be the JP3 one but the Spinosaurus shows up in Camp Cretaceous so...guess not. In Camp Cretaceous is gets chased off by the Tyrannosaurus pair (Big and Little Eatie) after losing a fight and I think we're supposed to assume it died but it is never shown.

I mean thinking about it logically, if they created the three Rebirth Spinos and science at  the time told them that is not how Spinosaurus looked, it was a long legged theropod then they would naturally assume the animal's were wrong/mistakes and they made the JP3 Spino to correct them not knowing it was already closer to correct. 

The JP3 Spino is good just being " out there" somewhere.  That way it can reappear at any time.

I'm still hoping there is some other surprise in this film. Something has to kill that mutant. It was said this is a setup for a new trilogy so I'm expecting more twists than what is in the trailers/story so far.  I just hope it's something cool.



Blade-of-the-Moon

So it's the original JP lab?  We have site B, lockwoods manor, Site C?  How many "originals" can we have?

Crackington

Interesting article on UK tax breaks for big international movies. Sounds like it's breathed new life into the Elstree studios near me:

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2025/apr/20/uk-taxpayers-contributed-89m-to-the-most-expensive-movie-ever-made

Pachyrhinosaurus

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Looks like we have a composer!


The little bit we hear reminds me of Man Against Beast from Jaws. I feel like Giacchino's score was a little subdued and dare I say generic compared to the original films, so if we get something closer to the sound of John Williams, that would be great.
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Jose S.M.

I liked the Godzilla (2014) score very much so I'm excited to hear this. I never really got into the previous JW scores I don't know why exactly.

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Dilopho

I'm so happy with their choice, I love his Godzilla 2014 soundtrack. Michael Giacchino is absolutely brilliant, but Alexandre Desplat is too. From one amazing composer to another.

Brocc21

So excited to see Gareth and Desplat collaborating again! I think his style of composition will fit wonderfully with the tone this film is going for.
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JohannesB

Certainly happy to hear about a different composer. I am an old guy, so my reference has always been John Williams (I saw Jurassic Park in cinema's when I was 19), and therefore I am extremely biased. But dare I say I found Giacchino's music for the Jurassic World films to be generic and even boring (fitting the movies very well, for sure). But I hasten to say that I enjoyed some of his earlier music much better, for example John Carter and Star Trek (2009).

dragon53

JURASSIC WORLD REBIRTH---REBIRTH has the franchise's second-longest runtime of 2 hours and 14 minutes. The longest movie is the franchise is JURASSIC WORLD: DOMINION with a runtime of 2 hours and 27 minutes.

HD-man

Quote from: dragon53 on April 25, 2025, 06:12:58 PMJURASSIC WORLD REBIRTH---REBIRTH has the franchise's second-longest runtime of 2 hours and 14 minutes. The longest movie is the franchise is JURASSIC WORLD: DOMINION with a runtime of 2 hours and 27 minutes.

Hopefully, Rebirth is (unlike Dominion) substantial enough to warrant that runtime ;)
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