PNSO New for 2025

[stargatedalek]

J @Joel1905 That's not the reason this figure is contentious at all.
G @GnastyGnorc I'm not sure we're aloud to discuss why this model's species choice, nickname, and even month of kickstarting are all contentious based on the rules of this forum. If you guys really want to know more, I suggest you both read up on current Hong Kong/Chinese political relations outside of this forum.

Why would the name be contentious? The fact that Hong Kong was returned to China is internationally recognised and for the Chinese is something worthy of celebration as they were able to recover a part of China that was taken by the colonial masters due to the Opium Wars. They even have annual celebrations in Hong Kong to commemorate the return. I'm guessing they did that to coincide with the celebrations. It's not even a debate whether Hongkong is part of China so I don't see how it's political, unless you think Hongkong independence is a majority view and there's some major active conflict going on (more people in Alaska want independence from the USA than HK from China btw).

Anyway I'll probably getting this, nice colour scheme and I like the neck pose. I usually collect 1:35 but apparently this can stand for a smaller sauropod so there's no problem. The fact that it's the first (I believe?) dinosaur discovered in Hongkong is pretty cool too.

Honk Kong spent a long time not under the rule of mainland China, and it developed in very different ways culturally during that time. The vast majority of people living in Hong Kong do not consider this something to be celebrated. And they would also disagree about this being any sort of liberation from colonial masters, if anything it was trading a largely symbolic one for a new active one.

It most certainly is an active conflict, at least politically. I highly, highly, doubt more people in Alaska want independence than people in Hong Kong.

[Gigantospinotyrannus]

J @Joel1905 That's not the reason this figure is contentious at all.
G @GnastyGnorc I'm not sure we're aloud to discuss why this model's species choice, nickname, and even month of kickstarting are all contentious based on the rules of this forum. If you guys really want to know more, I suggest you both read up on current Hong Kong/Chinese political relations outside of this forum.

Why would the name be contentious? The fact that Hong Kong was returned to China is internationally recognised and for the Chinese is something worthy of celebration as they were able to recover a part of China that was taken by the colonial masters due to the Opium Wars. They even have annual celebrations in Hong Kong to commemorate the return. I'm guessing they did that to coincide with the celebrations. It's not even a debate whether Hongkong is part of China so I don't see how it's political, unless you think Hongkong independence is a majority view and there's some major active conflict going on (more people in Alaska want independence from the USA than HK from China btw).

Like I said:

Also that nickname... Somehow unsurprised. Can be taken as a celebration or a statement depending on who you ask.

I can certainly attest that the situation is much more complicated and nuanced than what was described above. Many folk do not consider it something to celebrate.

Well, regardless of what some people feel it is indeed one of the few public holidays in Hongkong. Why not take advantage of that to release a figure that is connected to the holiday to boost sales? I'd be similarly concerned if this was some consistent thing they're doing and the next figure is called "Enemy the Americasaurus" and "Stop Rebelling the Taiwansaurus" but it's just them giving a name that has meaning to a species that is rather meaningful to them, being the first dinosaur discovered in Hongkong.

[JimoAi]

Yea thanks to that discourse, I wasn't able to go to Hong Kong for 9 years

[Trenchcoated Rebbachisaur]

The Hongkong independence thing does seem like it might be depicted as more of a controversial situation than it actually locally is (it aligns with western interests, after all), but that doesn't mean it's not an awkward move either way. Sure hope it stays a one off oddnote in the history of PNSO and doesn't become common practice.

[Concavenator]

Hoping next year they release a relevant sauropod species, regardless of me being interested in the species or not.

[suspsy]

Last night I dreamt that someone shared an image of a poster that would be packed in with the next PNSO T. rex. It was a giant closeup of just the head and it had a totally different style from Zhao's work, but I was thrilled because it meant that the toy was imminent.

[Joel1905]

Hoping next year they release a relevant sauropod species, regardless of me being interested in the species or not.

Diplodocus please!

[Flaffy]

Well, regardless of what some people feel it is indeed one of the few public holidays in Hongkong. Why not take advantage of that to release a figure that is connected to the holiday to boost sales? I'd be similarly concerned if this was some consistent thing they're doing and the next figure is called "Enemy the Americasaurus" and "Stop Rebelling the Taiwansaurus" but it's just them giving a name that has meaning to a species that is rather meaningful to them, being the first dinosaur discovered in Hongkong.

1) It's still a sensitive topic for many in the city, and especially to those that have left.
2) The nickname is literally just the word "return" in chinese. The specific use of "huigui", is a form of "return" that's only ever used in the context of the handover of HK to China.
3) A more suitable name in my opinion would be "(洋)紫荊", the national flower and official emblem of HK. If PNSO truly wanted to celebrate HK's unique identity with this figure, they could've chosen something that actually symbolises the city and its people.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but your use of "they" indicates that you are providing an outside perspective on the matter. I suggest not making broad sweeping statements & generalisations in confidence on a populus of 7.5 million people. The situation is messy, complicated, and very much ongoing.

[Flaffy]

@Flaffy oh dear, I remembered Hong Kong spoke Cantonese but why I did not think its name was also Cantonese 🤦 I was under the impression it was also Mandarin for some reason. Silly me.

Well in that case no rhyming :/

But hey, atleast we got a lesson in Chinese languages today

Not silly at all. In simple terms, Chinese is really more like a group/family of languages that share a written script (barring slight regional differences), but are otherwise mutually unintelligeble when spoken. i.e. A cantonese speaker will not understand a mandarin speaker even though they use the exact same characters (words).

So the name "香港龍" itself has no distinction between whether it's cantonese or mandarin given it is written text; the differences only arise when one pronounces the words in either language.

[BlueKrono]

@Flaffy oh dear, I remembered Hong Kong spoke Cantonese but why I did not think its name was also Cantonese 🤦 I was under the impression it was also Mandarin for some reason. Silly me.

Well in that case no rhyming :/

But hey, atleast we got a lesson in Chinese languages today

Not silly at all. In simple terms, Chinese is really more like a group/family of languages that share a written script (barring slight regional differences), but are otherwise mutually intelligeble when spoken. i.e. A cantonese speaker will not understand a mandarin speaker even though they use the exact same characters (words).

So the name "香港龍" itself has no distinction between whether it's cantonese or mandarin given it is written text; the differences only arise when one pronounces the words in either language.

It's not dinosaur toy related, but I value this content. Happy to be part of an international community like this.

[Stegotyranno420]

@Flaffy oh dear, I remembered Hong Kong spoke Cantonese but why I did not think its name was also Cantonese 🤦 I was under the impression it was also Mandarin for some reason. Silly me.

Well in that case no rhyming :/

But hey, atleast we got a lesson in Chinese languages today

Not silly at all. In simple terms, Chinese is really more like a group/family of languages that share a written script (barring slight regional differences), but are otherwise mutually intelligeble when spoken. i.e. A cantonese speaker will not understand a mandarin speaker even though they use the exact same characters (words).

So the name "香港龍" itself has no distinction between whether it's cantonese or mandarin given it is written text; the differences only arise when one pronounces the words in either language.

Yes, I'm aware. it is one of my favorite features of the "language" if one considers it one single one.
I think similar for Arabic, its difficult for a Moroccan, an Egyptian, and Iraqi to have a fully mutual intelligble conversation. Maybe not to the extent of difference as say Chinese dialects, but still, they are fairly different but considered the same language. And in text they all understand eachother (Modern Standard Arabic) also!

And then the opposite scenario with Hind-Urdu, Serbian-Croatian-Bosnian, Tajik-Farsi 😁

[thomasw100]

Lana Time Shop confirmed that they will be selling the Hongkongsaurus.

[thomasw100]

According to Paleofiguras, Hongkongsaurus will come soon:

[Carnoking]

Paint job almost reminds me of a more complex take on the HlG green Ampelosaurus

[JimoAi]

Oh gosh. Using my limited Chinese speaking ability, Huigui's name sounds like a racial slur that's translated I'm chinese if mispronounced...

[Blade-of-the-Moon]

It's nice but not a must have for me Especially as part of the museum line. Maybe discounted later it will be more appealing?

[Faelrin]

Now to wait and see how much it's gonna cost.

[oscars_dinos]

well now that it looks like it is coming can we continue the conversation on what this model can stand in for? I remember some people had suggested some species but what do we think is the best fit.

[SidB]

well now that it looks like it is coming can we continue the conversation on what this model can stand in for? I remember some people had suggested some species but what do we think is the best fit.

Yes, a closer look (in as far as this is possible) by some of our more expert folk would be interesting and perhaps may decide some of us who are sort of 'on the fence' with this figure to commit to purchase it.

[Flaffy]