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Toys and Tariffs (US customers)

Started by Primeval12, March 11, 2025, 02:35:09 PM

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andrewsaurus rex

it wouldn't surprise me if it takes a while, but they have had several months to prepare already.  The chaotic situation remains chaotic.


Pachyrhinosaurus

I'm not sure if this is the best place to ask, but are these tariffs mostly just focused on manufactured goods? Or are there blanket tariffs for anything coming from certain countries (such as items claimed as "geological samples")?
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Quote from: Pachyrhinosaurus on August 01, 2025, 06:52:30 PMI'm not sure if this is the best place to ask, but are these tariffs mostly just focused on manufactured goods? Or are there blanket tariffs for anything coming from certain countries (such as items claimed as "geological samples")?
Anything that's been paid money for you can be charged. Whether that will be enforced on items outside of manufactured goods I have no idea, it all seems very inconsistent right now.
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andrewsaurus rex

That's right anything of material value will be charged tariffs, theoretically.  Even if the recipient of the item didn't pay for it (eg a gift) or even if it's a used item of decreased value.

About the only things that would not be subject to tariffs is letter mail eg letters, birthday cards, snapshots etc.  But things like baseball cards, stamps etc would be charged tariffs based on their value.

Takama

Even 3D Printed models like the ones i been collecting latetly, will be subjected to this?

They come from Chile

And are forwarded to Spain

Also (and forgive me if this is not the place)  what happens if your unable to pay? :-\

Pachyrhinosaurus

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I wasn't sure since I thought I saw a list of different goods like toys, clothes, etc. with different tariff rates but it seems that each new tariff plan is a little different. And I don't think natural items were on it but that was a while ago.

Quote from: Takama on August 02, 2025, 01:19:16 AMAlso (and forgive me if this is not the place)  what happens if your unable to pay? :-\

I would imagine it'll be like a regular postage due where the sender didn't pay enough postage. There's a space on the 3849 your carrier can check for customs but I haven't had to collect for a customs fee so far. You can either pay or return it to the sender.
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Primeval12

so freeking dumb. Maybe they can mark the items as gifts...  ;)

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andrewsaurus rex

marking them as gifts will make no difference.  Tariffs will still have to be paid.  An obvious loophole that has been plugged long ago.

BlueKrono

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I just got an email from MiniZoo this morning that starting on Thursday they are suspending all shipments to the U.S. indefinitely due to tariff changes. This is a bummer since they are a trustworthy site with a great selection.
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bmathison1972

That is horrible news. I get my CollectA from them.

Blade-of-the-Moon

CollectA is about all I ordered from them and I haven't bought CollectA since their last large pterosaur. I expect by the time I need to make another purchase they will have it sorted out.

Gwangi

I used to get my CollectA from Minizoo but these days I wait for Happy Hen Toys to get them. It means a longer wait but I'm patient. It still sucks to have the option of using Minizoo gone, we already didn't have a lot of options for CollectA products. Minizoo usually has a better selection of them than HHT too.

bmathison1972

Quote from: Gwangi on August 19, 2025, 04:21:39 PMI used to get my CollectA from Minizoo but these days I wait for Happy Hen Toys to get them. It means a longer wait but I'm patient. It still sucks to have the option of using Minizoo gone, we already didn't have a lot of options for CollectA products. Minizoo usually has a better selection of them than HHT too.

Unfortunately, HHT doesn't get all CollectA figures because, if I remember correctly, US dealers have no control on what CollectA sends them (maybe something has changed; @sphyrna18 may know better). I always got my CollectA from Minizoo for a number of years now. Maybe things will change by the time 2026 figures are released.


andrewsaurus rex

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sellers around the globe are in a bit of a frenzy trying to figure out the changes that are coming on Aug 29 when deminimus goes away for ALL countries, meaning packages, regardless of where they are sent from or what their country of origin is, will be subject to tariffs, regardless of their value and regardless whether they are a gift or a purchase..  There is conflicting information and chaos, surrounding this...per usual.  It will probably take a while to get it all figured out.

The best i can tell right now is that any package coming into the US that does not have tariffs (duties) prepaid by the sender will be rejected and sent back to the sender.  This seems crazy to me but that is the way the legislation is interpreted.  The other part that will be of interest to US buyers is that ANY package, REGARDLESS OF VALUE coming into the US will be subject to an $80 fee (i think it's supposed to be like a minimum tariff levy).  This also seems crazy to me and there is much confusion surrounding the wording.

Suffice to say....much chaos.

Primeval12

This is getting frustrating. I will tentatively say not to panic. Ever since de minimus was removed from AliExpress, I was still able to get PNSO items at their intended price.

Takama

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Quote from: andrewsaurus rex on August 19, 2025, 05:13:57 PMsellers around the globe are in a bit of a frenzy trying to figure out the changes that are coming on Aug 29 when deminimus goes away for ALL countries, meaning packages, regardless of where they are sent from or what their country of origin is, will be subject to tariffs, regardless of their value and regardless whether they are a gift or a purchase..  There is conflicting information and chaos, surrounding this...per usual.  It will probably take a while to get it all figured out.

The best i can tell right now is that any package coming into the US that does not have tariffs (duties) prepaid by the sender will be rejected and sent back to the sender.  This seems crazy to me but that is the way the legislation is interpreted.  The other part that will be of interest to US buyers is that ANY package, REGARDLESS OF VALUE coming into the US will be subject to an $80 fee (i think it's supposed to be like a minimum tariff levy).  This also seems crazy to me and there is much confusion surrounding the wording.

Suffice to say....much chaos.

I have prints being finished over seas.

Your saying in order for me to get them, i need to pay a $80 fee?

Because thats beyond my budget at the momment :-\

andrewsaurus rex

that's the way the new law reads at the moment, or at least can be interpreted that way.  Believe me there are MANY people looking for clarification on this matter and indeed all other aspects of the changes coming on Aug 29.  If past is any guide, things will change several times after Aug 29.  The whole policy seems rushed and not thought through.

So just be aware that big changes may well be coming on Aug 29 and hope that common sense prevails.  Clearly this $80 minimum charge would stop virtually all lower value individual items from entering the US.  I can't believe that is the intention but who knows.

SBell

Quote from: Takama on August 19, 2025, 10:24:04 PM
Quote from: andrewsaurus rex on August 19, 2025, 05:13:57 PMsellers around the globe are in a bit of a frenzy trying to figure out the changes that are coming on Aug 29 when deminimus goes away for ALL countries, meaning packages, regardless of where they are sent from or what their country of origin is, will be subject to tariffs, regardless of their value and regardless whether they are a gift or a purchase..  There is conflicting information and chaos, surrounding this...per usual.  It will probably take a while to get it all figured out.

The best i can tell right now is that any package coming into the US that does not have tariffs (duties) prepaid by the sender will be rejected and sent back to the sender.  This seems crazy to me but that is the way the legislation is interpreted.  The other part that will be of interest to US buyers is that ANY package, REGARDLESS OF VALUE coming into the US will be subject to an $80 fee (i think it's supposed to be like a minimum tariff levy).  This also seems crazy to me and there is much confusion surrounding the wording.

Suffice to say....much chaos.

I have prints being finished over seas.

Your saying in order for me to get them, i need to pay a $80 fee?

Because thats beyond my budget at the momment :-\

It won't help but that minimum depends on country of origin.
If the tariff is over 25% +like Canada's 35%) the minimum is $200

Takama

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Quote from: SBell on August 20, 2025, 12:15:42 AM
Quote from: Takama on August 19, 2025, 10:24:04 PM
Quote from: andrewsaurus rex on August 19, 2025, 05:13:57 PMsellers around the globe are in a bit of a frenzy trying to figure out the changes that are coming on Aug 29 when deminimus goes away for ALL countries, meaning packages, regardless of where they are sent from or what their country of origin is, will be subject to tariffs, regardless of their value and regardless whether they are a gift or a purchase..  There is conflicting information and chaos, surrounding this...per usual.  It will probably take a while to get it all figured out.

The best i can tell right now is that any package coming into the US that does not have tariffs (duties) prepaid by the sender will be rejected and sent back to the sender.  This seems crazy to me but that is the way the legislation is interpreted.  The other part that will be of interest to US buyers is that ANY package, REGARDLESS OF VALUE coming into the US will be subject to an $80 fee (i think it's supposed to be like a minimum tariff levy).  This also seems crazy to me and there is much confusion surrounding the wording.

Suffice to say....much chaos.

I have prints being finished over seas.

Your saying in order for me to get them, i need to pay a $80 fee?

Because thats beyond my budget at the momment :-\

It won't help but that minimum depends on country of origin.
If the tariff is over 25% +like Canada's 35%) the minimum is $200

And if im unable to pay, will the parcel be sent back?

These prints where the Work of Chrstopher Chevaz. Who resides in Chile, but i had him forward them to Dinosaur-Model-Artworks in Spain to be finished

Frankly, im scared of whats going to happen

And its all very confusing for me.

andrewsaurus rex

i'm sure it is and i'm sorry for what this is putting you through.  I wish i could answer your questions with clarity but there is no clarity, that's part of the problem.  As i said in my post above it also appears that tariffs will have to be prepaid by the shipper or packages will be rejected by US Customs and returned to sender.   So what this means is that sellers will have to collect the tariffs at the time of sale and then, somehow remit that money to US Customs and obtain proof that the tariffs have been paid that will be attached to the package.

Amazon and to an extent Ebay do that now. I live in Canada and if i were to buy something on Amazon.com i would be charged any applicable tariffs at time of sale and when the package gets to Canada Customs they can see all tariffs have been paid and the package is not assessed any more (though it may still be inspected for any illegal substances).   How smaller sellers around the world are supposed to do this tariff remittance to US Customs, i have no idea.  Also, if granny sends her grandson a Christmas gift how is she supposed to prepay and remit the tariffs to US Customs?  Nobody knows.

So, if there is any way your prints can be sent to you and clear US Customs before Aug 29 that would be best.  If not, then the seller may have to ask for more money to prepay US tariffs before he can send them.

Again, nobody really knows what is going on or how the implementation will look.  There is certainly a chance that everything will still be normal after Aug 29 and that tweaks and changes will be made to the executive order to clarify and simplify all of this.   

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