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CollectA: New for 2025

Started by suspsy, October 31, 2024, 12:13:38 PM

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Nevertheless, the Phorusrhacos is clearly not at all intended to be a remake of the Kelenken, nor should it be construed as one.
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Quote from: GojiraGuy1954 on November 30, 2024, 07:31:08 PM"Tyrannosauridae" is a clade. There is no "Terrorbirdidae" that involves Gastornis, Kelenken, Phorusrachos, and Titanis. It's a colloquial, and the actual genus of the bird doesn't matter as much to people.

I think nowadays "Terror Birds" is often understood as a shorthand for the Phorusrhacids by people who are a little more in the know, and that these people would now exclude Gastornis from that group. This is a group that's not only a clade but also all had a similar ecological role as large ground-dwelling predatory birds (also probably unlike Gastornis), either all flightless or possibly with very limited flight in the case of the smallest known member Psilopterus.

I wonder if people are just using the word "remake" differently here, like some may treat it as meaning a new sculpt of a nearly identical looking animal and others may treat it just being something sufficiently similar it would appeal to fans of a specific group, like a Gorgosaurus model being treated as a remake of a Tyrannosaurus or something.

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I don't think the Phorusrhacos is a remake of the Kelenken.  A remake by definition is a new version of something that's the same.  CollectA's two phorusrhacids are different genera.  So one isn't a remake of the other.  If one was a remake of the other because they're both phorusrhachids, then CollectA's tyrannosaurids could almost all be remakes.  Just like the Kelenken and Phorusrhachos are both terror birds, the tyrannosaurids are all "tyrannosaurs".

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Quote from: suspsy on November 30, 2024, 07:44:39 PMNevertheless, the Phorusrhacos is clearly not at all intended to be a remake of the Kelenken, nor should it be construed as one.
I think it depends on whether they retire the Kelenken or not. They can coexist, but if the older one stops being made because of the new one than I would see fit to describe it as a replacement or remake.
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