Jurassic Park 4 [Jurassic World] (no spoilers)

[Blade-of-the-Moon]

Agreed. If it were cost effective I'd say let them make a film with maybe 20% cgi fx..just limit them a bit. See if you can still make an awesome film without it.  I know it's possible with practical fx work.

[Blade-of-the-Moon]

Mosa toy pic :

[Hermes888]

Oh, come on, it's Jurassic Park! You can't expect accuracy. If you're going to judge, judge the storyline, the mistakes, the bad acting, not the nostalgic dinosaurs for the fourth movie of a series that started in 1993!

So you're saying we should ignore the accuracy of dinosaurs in the fourth installment of a series that has a history of updating the public perception of dinosaurs?
Nostalgia is not an excuse for laziness.

[triceratops83]

That Mosasaur is the only thing I have even a vague interest in. What's with the subcrabmarine though?

[CityRaptor]

It's probably one of those toys-exclusive things.

[Blade-of-the-Moon]

It's part of the set that includes a "dinosaur", vehicle and a 2.5" figurine.  Other sets include the Pteranodon with helicopter and I-Rex with Gyrosphere.

[Alex-DinoFood]

Haha, look at the Innovation Center video feed on the Jurassic World website. It's the Papo Velociraptor!

Man I can't wait 'till June!!!

[Gwangi]

Oh, come on, it's Jurassic Park! You can't expect accuracy. If you're going to judge, judge the storyline, the mistakes, the bad acting, not the nostalgic dinosaurs for the fourth movie of a series that started in 1993!

So you're saying we should ignore the accuracy of dinosaurs in the fourth installment of a series that has a history of updating the public perception of dinosaurs?
Nostalgia is not an excuse for laziness.

Yes. While I would much rather see up to date dinosaurs (and dromaeosaurs in particular) I totally understand the reasons behind it. Even if I don't like it. At the end of the day it's a Hollywood movie, not a documentary and 90% of society just doesn't care one way or another. Actually they do care...about nostalgia, not accuracy. That's just the world we live in.

You know with all the hate this movie is generating I have to wonder...how many of you are not going to go see it?

[Yutyrannus]

You know with all the hate this movie is generating I have to wonder...how many of you are not going to go see it?

I'm not.

[Appalachiosaurus]

The new trailer has lots more dinosaurs, but is that such a good thing? Is there really a reason to have three times more gallis in that one scene and do we really need ten trikes to stampede on one shot? Just look at the pterosaur scene! How many can an aviary hold! Heck, we have been shown practically every shot of the I. rex, which is supposed to be mysterious. They really showed too much in the super bowl spot.

[stargatedalek]

I'm definitely going to be seeing it. Its Jurassic Park and I never had any expectations for accuracy so I have no qualms with anything that's been revealed.

[Arioch]

Oh, come on, it's Jurassic Park! You can't expect accuracy. If you're going to judge, judge the storyline, the mistakes, the bad acting, not the nostalgic dinosaurs for the fourth movie of a series that started in 1993!

So you're saying we should ignore the accuracy of dinosaurs in the fourth installment of a series that has a history of updating the public perception of dinosaurs?
Nostalgia is not an excuse for laziness.

Yes. While I would much rather see up to date dinosaurs (and dromaeosaurs in particular) I totally understand the reasons behind it. Even if I don't like it. At the end of the day it's a Hollywood movie, not a documentary and 90% of society just doesn't care one way or another. Actually they do care...about nostalgia, not accuracy. That's just the world we live in.

You know with all the hate this movie is generating I have to wonder...how many of you are not going to go see it?

Many people are driven by nostalgia, but the truth is that most just don't know what they want and will flock to the theatre anyway to watch wathever it's in.

"It's not the job of the artist to give the audience what the audience wants. If the audience knew what they needed, then they wouldn't be the audience. They would be the artists. It is the job of artists to give the audience what they need."

-Alan Moore


I refuse to accept that the only place accurate dinosaurs have in visual media is documentaries. All it would take is someone with a clear vision that could pitch the idea to the right producers for a big motion picture, and even if it doesn't suceed eventually it would still be a step in the right direction, that others could follow. Pop culture and public perception is constantly evolving, it's not gonna be always like it is now (stuck in the JP aesthetics). But someone needs to take that first step. There was a time when people thought that space adventures with soundless explosions and realistic physics would scare off the audience, but here we are now with movies like Interestellar or Gravity which feature much better science (and still far from actual, perfect science, of course...but sort of getting there.)

[Appalachiosaurus]

Oh, come on, it's Jurassic Park! You can't expect accuracy. If you're going to judge, judge the storyline, the mistakes, the bad acting, not the nostalgic dinosaurs for the fourth movie of a series that started in 1993!

So you're saying we should ignore the accuracy of dinosaurs in the fourth installment of a series that has a history of updating the public perception of dinosaurs?
Nostalgia is not an excuse for laziness.

Yes. While I would much rather see up to date dinosaurs (and dromaeosaurs in particular) I totally understand the reasons behind it. Even if I don't like it. At the end of the day it's a Hollywood movie, not a documentary and 90% of society just doesn't care one way or another. Actually they do care...about nostalgia, not accuracy. That's just the world we live in.

You know with all the hate this movie is generating I have to wonder...how many of you are not going to go see it?

Many people are driven by nostalgia, but the truth is that most just don't know what they want and will flock to the theatre anyway to watch wathever it's in.

"It's not the job of the artist to give the audience what the audience wants. If the audience knew what they needed, then they wouldn't be the audience. They would be the artists. It is the job of artists to give the audience what they need."

-Alan Moore


I refuse to accept that the only place accurate dinosaurs have in visual media is documentaries. All it would take is someone with a clear vision that could pitch the idea to the right producers for a big motion picture, and even if it doesn't suceed eventually it would still be a step in the right direction, that others could follow. Pop culture and public perception is constantly evolving, it's not gonna be always like it is now (stuck in the JP aesthetics). But someone needs to take that first step. There was a time when people thought that space adventures with soundless explosions and realistic physics would scare off the audience, but here we are now with movies like Interestellar or Gravity (which are still far from actual science, of course...but sort of getting there.)

If you want accurate dinosaurs, why not stop complaining to people who pretty much share your opinions and go do something. There is a petition on Change . org that could use your signature. It was linked by JPlegacy on Facebook.

[Gwangi]

I would normally agree with you if this was a dinosaur movie separate from "Jurassic Park". A different movie could get away with it, I'm just not so sure "Jurassic Park" could given the universe it has established. I wish it could and honestly wish they had but I understand why they didn't. If the franchise ever gets re-booted or a new dinosaur themed movie comes out I would expect the dinosaurs to be more accurate. But in this universe that was created over 20 year ago people expect certain things. You wouldn't change the look of the zenomorphs in "Alien" or the predator in "Predator". The makers of this movie were stuck with the unenviable task of pissing off one of two groups. The movie nerds, JP diehards and general public who expect their dinosaurs to look consistent with other films and the dinosaur nerds (like us) who want accurate dinosaurs. We make up a tiny fraction of the population. Your quote about art is all well and good but this is also a movie with a big budget, expected to make a lot of money and the first Hollywood effort of a director with one movie under his belt. Really what we should be concerned about is whether or not the movie is good. I'm not so sure it will be but I'm looking forward to seeing it.

[Arioch]

I would normally agree with you if this was a dinosaur movie separate from "Jurassic Park". A different movie could get away with it, I'm just not so sure "Jurassic Park" could given the universe it has established. I wish it could and honestly wish they had but I understand why they didn't. If the franchise ever gets re-booted or a new dinosaur themed movie comes out I would expect the dinosaurs to be more accurate. But in this universe that was created over 20 year ago people expect certain things. You wouldn't change the look of the zenomorphs in "Alien" or the predator in "Predator". The makers of this movie were stuck with the unenviable task of pissing off one of two groups. The movie nerds, JP diehards and general public who expect their dinosaurs to look consistent with other films and the dinosaur nerds (like us) who want accurate dinosaurs. We make up a tiny fraction of the population. Your quote about art is all well and good but this is also a movie with a big budget, expected to make a lot of money and the first Hollywood effort of a director with one movie under his belt. Really what we should be concerned about is whether or not the movie is good. I'm not so sure it will be but I'm looking forward to seeing it.

Oh, I wouldn't expect any JP movie to feature accurate archosaurs at this point. That ship sailed long time ago. Apparently hoping for the animals to not look worse than in previous sequels is asking too much as well. 

What I was adressing is your first statement and the general sentiment that accurate dinosaurs are incompatible with mainstream entertainment, specially properly feathered maniraptors.

[Gwangi]

Oh, I wouldn't expect any JP movie to feature accurate archosaurs at this point. That ship sailed long time ago. Apparently hoping for the animals to not look worse than in previous sequels is asking too much as well. 

What I was adressing is your first statement and the general sentiment that accurate dinosaurs are incompatible with mainstream entertainment, specially properly feathered maniraptors.

I was only referring to the JP series in particular, not dinosaur entertainment as a whole. I should have made that clearer I suppose but I thought it was a given what with the thread we're in. But I agree with you, I see no reason why another future dinosaur movie shouldn't give us reasonably accurate dinosaurs.

[tyrantqueen]

If you want accurate dinosaurs, why not stop complaining to people who pretty much share your opinions and go do something. There is a petition on Change . org that could use your signature. It was linked by JPlegacy on Facebook.

Online petitions are a waste of time.

[Gwangi]

If you want accurate dinosaurs, why not stop complaining to people who pretty much share your opinions and go do something. There is a petition on Change . org that could use your signature. It was linked by JPlegacy on Facebook.

Online petitions are a waste of time.

Especially in this case when the movie is basically complete. I looked at the petition...104 supporters? Enough said.

[Takama]

Yes it would take something far out of our power for them to change the movie.

[John]

You know with all the hate this movie is generating I have to wonder...how many of you are not going to go see it?

You know that they will all be first in line on opening day!!!

As far as accuracy goes,there is only one conceivable way to have more updated dinosaur designs in a Jurassic Park movie:a complete remake from scratch,or as they like to call it now,a "reboot".
For all the complaints I see a lot in comment sections about the dinosaurs behaving more like blood thirsty monsters than real animals,I think about how boring the movies would be if all we saw the dinosaurs do was sleep all day when not just drinking quietly from a river...
In all honesty,I would much rather see movies like this geared toward the so called "AWESOME BRO!" (when did it become a bad thing to enjoy sports and action movies?!?) crowd than to try and please some of the extreme fanboys out there. .