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JURASSIC WORLD: DOMINION

Started by dragon53, March 30, 2018, 06:46:59 PM

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bone crusher

Quote from: dinotoyforum on July 04, 2022, 09:36:59 AM
Quote from: bone crusher on July 04, 2022, 05:21:02 AMSo Box office is sitting at 824m as of now, with China extending the screening for one more month and Japan has yet to open theirs, I think it might just come close to a billy all said and done. Dinosaurs are truly critics proof aren't they? Yeah feels like Universal would definitely green lit a new trilogy soon enough at this rate, hopefully they have recognized and learned their mistakes from Dominion and pull a Maverick for the sequels.

If they can do a poor job and rake in the cash anyway, why expect them to change? At 1 billion per mistake expect many more 'mistakes' to come.
So let's just have more locust central plot or anything other than dinosaur focused plot for our next film since it worked so well for the BO. Do people not care? Must they stoop down to Transformers 4 & 5 level before things are finally improving?


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Quote from: bone crusher on July 05, 2022, 02:06:34 PM
Quote from: dinotoyforum on July 04, 2022, 09:36:59 AM
Quote from: bone crusher on July 04, 2022, 05:21:02 AMSo Box office is sitting at 824m as of now, with China extending the screening for one more month and Japan has yet to open theirs, I think it might just come close to a billy all said and done. Dinosaurs are truly critics proof aren't they? Yeah feels like Universal would definitely green lit a new trilogy soon enough at this rate, hopefully they have recognized and learned their mistakes from Dominion and pull a Maverick for the sequels.

If they can do a poor job and rake in the cash anyway, why expect them to change? At 1 billion per mistake expect many more 'mistakes' to come.
So let's just have more locust central plot or anything other than dinosaur focused plot for our next film since it worked so well for the BO. Do people not care? Must they stoop down to Transformers 4 & 5 level before things are finally improving?

Clearly not. It has a 77% audience rating on Rotten Tomatoes. We're doomed. >:D



stargatedalek

Again, I genuinely liked it. Not only will I take "genetically engineered locusts" over "indominus rex 3" any day, but I was actively relieved by that.

Everything about the films promotion (mostly Trevorrow's demented rambling) was projecting this idea of "wild dinosaurs are causing an apocalypse because they're so dangerous" which is an obnoxiously stupid idea. It doesn't make sense and that's just not realistic.

You know what is realistic? A Monsanto reskin developing an engineered plague to destroy all crops that aren't theirs. The giant bugs themselves were not realistic, but the broader narrative hook feels far more grounded and plausible.

Heck, they've essentially done that already just with extra steps. Crop resistant plants that require their own brand of overly strong pesticides, which then disrupt the ecosystem and lead to more pests which spread and primarily target independent crops...

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bone crusher

Quote from: dinotoyforum on July 05, 2022, 10:06:44 PM
Quote from: bone crusher on July 05, 2022, 02:06:34 PM
Quote from: dinotoyforum on July 04, 2022, 09:36:59 AM
Quote from: bone crusher on July 04, 2022, 05:21:02 AMSo Box office is sitting at 824m as of now, with China extending the screening for one more month and Japan has yet to open theirs, I think it might just come close to a billy all said and done. Dinosaurs are truly critics proof aren't they? Yeah feels like Universal would definitely green lit a new trilogy soon enough at this rate, hopefully they have recognized and learned their mistakes from Dominion and pull a Maverick for the sequels.

If they can do a poor job and rake in the cash anyway, why expect them to change? At 1 billion per mistake expect many more 'mistakes' to come.
So let's just have more locust central plot or anything other than dinosaur focused plot for our next film since it worked so well for the BO. Do people not care? Must they stoop down to Transformers 4 & 5 level before things are finally improving?

Clearly not. It has a 77% audience rating on Rotten Tomatoes. We're doomed. >:D

Not saying it's doomed but pretty sad, but then again my expectations are way up there so I guess I should roll with MJ's line, If you expect disappointment, then you can never really be disappointed.

Giganotosaurus

I've seen the film twice, I hope we get the extended cut released in theaters for a week or so!
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Takama

#1286
Then that cut be Exclusive to Streaming so you cannot own it for yourself at worst case scenerio.


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brandem

I finally got around to seeing it. Not great but I'm still glad to see dinosaurs on the big screen.
Biosyn had a terribly stupid plan, after the locusts eat everything but what you sell people are going to catch on. First you release the locust THEN you sell seeds as being 'locust resistant.' What even is a locust mutated with 'Cretaceous DNA?' The locust also feel more like something from the books than the movies, have omnivorous swarms of anurognathus eating everything in the Midwest. At least then you could say they were an undocumented species from the park and not an obviously man made doomsday weapon.

stargatedalek

Quote from: brandem on July 09, 2022, 09:35:19 PMI finally got around to seeing it. Not great but I'm still glad to see dinosaurs on the big screen.
Biosyn had a terribly stupid plan, after the locusts eat everything but what you sell people are going to catch on. First you release the locust THEN you sell seeds as being 'locust resistant.' What even is a locust mutated with 'Cretaceous DNA?' The locust also feel more like something from the books than the movies, have omnivorous swarms of anurognathus eating everything in the Midwest. At least then you could say they were an undocumented species from the park and not an obviously man made doomsday weapon.

They probably went with bugs so that the scenes of them being killed en-masse would be less horrific.

Takama

#1289
Plus A Certain British TV Show Did the Whole Killer Pterosaur Swarm Idea alredy

brandem

#1290
Yeah, idk how lighting a flock of vertebrates on fire affects the rating vs a lot of bugs.

But yeah I had to google to tell find that there was an episode of primeval that had anurognathus in it but my feelings about it stand, I'd rather see an existing animal interpreted into the Jurassic park world than having unusual hybrids, same reason I didnt care for the indomi-family or Scorpius

Carnoking

#1291
Although not specifically, the plague of genetically modified locusts was set up in Fallen Kingdom by Ian Malcolm:
"-and now we've got genetic power and how long is that going to take to spread around the globe, and what's gonna be done with it? It ain't gonna stop with the de-extinction of the dinosaurs."

Now the merit of the locusts idea can be debated but I'll hold it makes for an intriguing addition to franchise because it proves something I've always believed: Jurassic isn't about dangerous dinosaurs, it's about the dangers of technology when used irresponsibly. The dinosaurs just happened to be the vehicle through which that idea was conveyed in all films prior (and still in Dominion in their own ways even if they took a back seat).

Faelrin

#1292
I stumbled across an article from the Guardian yesterday about the CDC reporting high findings of Glyphosate in people's urine, which I guess there's been other studies showing too much exposure is cancerous or the like (edit 2: seems like the data is inconclusive or there have been conflicting studies done. Not sure what to think atm)? I guess I need to read more on it, but not the first time I've read something about that though, but it has been a while. Basically I'm no stranger to that since Monsanto has been criticized for using it for years now as a pesticide (edit: it's actually a herbicide, though no doubt there's no shortage of pesticides used too) with their GMO crops, and I've been aware of that since like 2014 maybe? Like I said been a while since I last looked into any of this.

Anyways my point is that it reminded me of the situation in the film. As silly as the locusts was, it definitely helped run home the dangers of the current agricultural industry control, and the possibilities that can be done with it. The fact there is a major corporation having control over a good portion of the food chain (at least in the US here, since I think GMO's are banned in the EU and elsewhere if I recall correctly?), in a way that can be detrimental to one's health (and the environment as well no doubt) possibly, is frightening, especially with their over reliance on a toxic substance (which may be to provide more food for people, or the darker reality of more profits instead?). I know GMO's on their own might not be bad and can be beneficial (such as the golden rice project if I recall correctly, that was designed to help malnourished people), or like making peanuts for people that are allergic to them otherwise, assuming that's done at all yet, since really its just speeding up what things were done historically with artificial selection. Between the studies coming out on microplastics being found in our own bodies, and this, it's very concerning. I'm getting the feeling this is like the lead and asbestos for my generation and those younger (although the former are still around in some places sadly, so not all people are spared from the harms they cause, young or old). The fact that the film went directly into intellectual property and patented seeds which Biosyn did so with their crops, so they would not be targeted by the locusts, is exactly what Monsanto has been criticized for doing for years now (except the locusts part). Edit 3: Specifically their seeds are modified to tolerate or handle more glyphosate usage. And like antibiotic resistance, no surprise there's apparently a growing resistance to that in "weed" plants too.
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HD-man

#1293
 ;) 2 reviews for the price of 1:

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Cretaceous Crab

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Two dinosaur genera have the distinction of being represented on screen in all 6 films.

One is the Velociraptor. What is the other one?

Carnoking

#1295
Parasaurolophus. And T. rex but that's a given.

Pliosaurking

#1296
Triceratops is also present in all 6 films

Cretaceous Crab

Quote from: Pliosaurking on July 24, 2022, 06:11:40 PMTriceratops is also present in all 6 films

Where was Triceratops in JW Dominion?
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Yeah, as soon as I posted the question, my son corrected me and reminded me of T. rex. I suppose earlier, I had been thinking of Rexy exclusively and forgot about the Isla Sorna rexes.

So it's Velociraptor, Tyrannosaurus and Parasaurolophus definitely. I don't recall seeing a trike in Dominion but I could've missed it.

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All the dinosaurs are running wild
Someone let T. Rex out of his pen
I'm afraid those things'll harm me
'Cause they sure don't act like Barney
And they think that I'm their dinner, not their friend
Oh no

Carnoking

The Triceratops can be seen wandering through Biosyn Valley during the wild fire. It's about as apparent as it's appearance in JP3

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