JURASSIC WORLD: DOMINION

[Stegotyranno420]

I don't understand why people are getting so upset about tyrannosaurus losing. It's just tiring to see the same dinosaur beat all the others, and even it was a wrong winner(which it wasn't, I don't care, a giganotosaurus will beat a tyrannosaurus, but I am not trying to turn this into the Dinosaur Fights community ), it's still cool. And it seems super believe able based on the quality I was able to seen it in. Tyrannosaurus isn't invincible,  and giganotosaur doesn't have weak jaws. Bite force is not all the power in jaws.

And who cares if they put osteoderms. It's much more believable than osteoderms on ceratopsians(?), tyrannosaurs, ornithopods(?). Even if they are inaccurate, I don't know why they are repulsive

In response to the history-mixup thing: It like Sushruta, Nader Shah, Martin Luther King, and Otto Von Bismarck were all playing Just Dance 2014 on a Wii and then Pliny the Elder Ding Dong Ditched them or something

And finally am I the only guy who really likes this movie. I feel like this might be the best in the series

[John]

I don't understand why people are getting so upset about tyrannosaurus losing. It's just tiring to see the same dinosaur beat all the others, and even it was a wrong winner(which it wasn't, I don't care, a giganotosaurus will beat a tyrannosaurus, but I am not trying to turn this into the Dinosaur Fights community ), it's still cool. And it seems super believe able based on the quality I was able to seen it in. Tyrannosaurus isn't invincible,  and giganotosaur doesn't have weak jaws. Bite force is not all the power in jaws.

And who cares if they put osteoderms. It's much more believable than osteoderms on ceratopsians(?), tyrannosaurs, ornithopods(?). Even if they are inaccurate, I don't know why they are repulsive

In response to the history-mixup thing: It like Sushruta, Nader Shah, Martin Luther King, and Otto Von Bismarck were all playing Just Dance 2014 on a Wii and then Pliny the Elder Ding Dong Ditched them or something

And finally am I the only guy who really likes this movie. I feel like this might be the best in the series

I'm liking what I see so far of this film too.Don't pay too much attention to the super die hard fanboys who can never be satisfied with anything that comes out.I just ignore them the same as I ignore the worst Star Wars fans.

[ITdactyl]

And finally am I the only guy who really likes this movie. I feel like this might be the best in the series

No offense meant, but it's weird seeing this statement after several members (myself included) have mentioned how much we like what we saw in the preview. Although to be fair, I can't rank the movie yet as (leaks aside) we don't know much about the plot.

I don't understand why people are getting so upset about tyrannosaurus losing.

Can't speak for anyone else, but I don't mind Rexy losing. I'm just bothered that the scene plays too much like THAT JP3 moment. My opinion aside, I get what you're saying... social media is currently flooded with debates about bite strength, agility, behavior etc.  I guess Trevorrow got what he wanted, and that fans are reacting to that scene.

[Reuben03]

just here to say that i am very disappointed and that oviraptor has made me so unbelievably mad

[Syndicate Bias]

I came with expectations of zero accuracy as every JP has been. I leave pleased and excited for the next popcorn flick.

Plenty of shows or movies that tickle one's fancy when it comes to amazing writing and plenty of dinosaur shows and documentaries to satisfy one.

I for one love the Giga killing the Rex again 

Still a bit bothered with the misplacement though

It all began in Dino Crisis 2...

[Dynomikegojira]

I don't understand why people are getting so upset about tyrannosaurus losing. It's just tiring to see the same dinosaur beat all the others, and even it was a wrong winner(which it wasn't, I don't care, a giganotosaurus will beat a tyrannosaurus, but I am not trying to turn this into the Dinosaur Fights community ), it's still cool. And it seems super believe able based on the quality I was able to seen it in. Tyrannosaurus isn't invincible,  and giganotosaur doesn't have weak jaws. Bite force is not all the power in jaws.

And who cares if they put osteoderms. It's much more believable than osteoderms on ceratopsians(?), tyrannosaurs, ornithopods(?). Even if they are inaccurate, I don't know why they are repulsive

In response to the history-mixup thing: It like Sushruta, Nader Shah, Martin Luther King, and Otto Von Bismarck were all playing Just Dance 2014 on a Wii and then Pliny the Elder Ding Dong Ditched them or something

And finally am I the only guy who really likes this movie. I feel like this might be the best in the series

That's a tall order considering that the original is great and as a T.rex fan I don't have an issue with Giga killing because it really was self defense in Giga's case and looked like it can go either way like it usually does in nature when 2 similar sized predators fight to the death(rarely) but still the time placement bothers me more than anything.

[Dynomikegojira]

I don't understand why people are getting so upset about tyrannosaurus losing. It's just tiring to see the same dinosaur beat all the others, and even it was a wrong winner(which it wasn't, I don't care, a giganotosaurus will beat a tyrannosaurus, but I am not trying to turn this into the Dinosaur Fights community ), it's still cool. And it seems super believe able based on the quality I was able to seen it in. Tyrannosaurus isn't invincible,  and giganotosaur doesn't have weak jaws. Bite force is not all the power in jaws.

And who cares if they put osteoderms. It's much more believable than osteoderms on ceratopsians(?), tyrannosaurs, ornithopods(?). Even if they are inaccurate, I don't know why they are repulsive

In response to the history-mixup thing: It like Sushruta, Nader Shah, Martin Luther King, and Otto Von Bismarck were all playing Just Dance 2014 on a Wii and then Pliny the Elder Ding Dong Ditched them or something

And finally am I the only guy who really likes this movie. I feel like this might be the best in the series

I'm liking what I see so far of this film too.Don't pay too much attention to the super die hard fanboys who can never be satisfied with anything that comes out.I just ignore them the same as I ignore the worst Star Wars fans.

Well considering that the none of the subsequent Jurassic films match the quality of the first film it's understandable that people find them to be divisive and always have been. The Lost World Jurassic Park is my personal favorite but I accept that people thought it was a step down from the original. Fandoms are filled with plenty of people with different opinions on various things so you're always gonna have disagreements it's what make all fandoms great is having respectable debates but unfortunately you do have toxic people as well vut that's everywhere.

[Faelrin]

S @Syndicate Bias

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Serious anachronism aside, I actually enjoyed that sequence. My dude was trying to relax and get their teeth cleaned out, and then a challenger appears. Can't blame it for getting its butt handed to it. What I also appreciate is that while the fight choreography was perhaps a bit too similar to the JPIII fight, the Giganotosaurus did not directly kill it by breaking its neck. Instead it seems that the slip into the riverbed was what did it. I also appreciate it just walking away and not standing there doing a victory roar.

Now I'm just wondering how it will be handled in the final film. Based on what articles and interviews with Trevorrow are saying this was all done to set up a sort of rivalry in the present, with the T. rex winning. Not the biggest fan of that direction because it still seems to me they are wanting to have the Giganotosaurus as a villain, versus just a destructive and dangerous force of nature, but will still need to wait and see how it plays out then. Perhaps it may be a good time to showcase the strength of the T. rex jaws by then. Something they've failed to do since JPIII.

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If there's at least one good thing about this whole intro sequence though, is that the behaviors did feel very natural, which is not something the World films have accomplished often. The lack of music during the entire thing was also an interesting decision. I certainly approve of the lack of it during the fight.

And it also crushes me I may have to wait another year still before I can get my hands on the potential figures. At the very least the Moros and Giganotosaurus (and the Lystrosaurus revealed a while back) are must haves for me.

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Iguanodon and the new Quetzalcoatlus too, even if I love the original one still, with its pycnofibers and pretty colors.

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@Reuben03 Same here. Biggest disappointment for me. I guess I set my expectations too high, but when someone promises accuracy I would expect them to deliver, and I suppose seeing how well done the Moros was, I got that impression that maybe this time, they would finally do it right...


Edit: Found a better quality leak. Some thoughts:

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The Quetzalcoatlus does indeed have pycnofibers after all! Yes! The Pteranodons do appear slightly different from the Jurassic World ones, but only color wise, with one in particular having an almost TLW coloration. Still look bald and shrinkwrapped from what I can tell, unfortunately. Still can't tell if the Ankylosaurus is the same old one or not. I'm guessing it probably is.

The Igaunodon has a striped pattern on it with darker brown(?) stripes, and white stripes behind the darker ones, alternating. Can't make out the coloration much more it though. Kind of a brownish golden coloration with some white patches here and there. I guess not too dissimilar from the classic WWD styled ones in all honesty.

The Giganotosaurus seems to have a darker and jagged striped pattern, maybe dark green in coloration, overlaying a lighter coloration. I guess similar to what was on the leaked animatronic. I am really loving its design. It really does stand out from the rest of the theropods so far, although I'm not sure it really needed the huge scutes in this case, but well the Allosaurus has them as well, and they are distantly cousins I guess.

Someone posted this render on instagram, comparing it to a screenshot that looks very much like it. Not sure where they found it honestly.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CQTx5KhARmx/

That said I definitely do think the Jurassic World Evolution one had a more scientifically sound Gigantosaurus design (no huge scutes), but I must say I vastly prefer the coloration of this new design instead.

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[Carnoking]

I haven't seen the teaser but with all the buzz it's generated (good and bad) I feel like I have.

I'll say this
It sounds far from perfect, and it is disappointing to hear after all the talk of scientific updates that the creators were still so far off. As a lifelong fan of both this franchise and the scientific end of paleontology, I was hoping this movie would help bridge an ever-widening rift.
That being said, based on what I have seen (the image of the moros, for example) and what I have heard, it sounds like this is a step in the right direction. I guess given the amount of talking up Trevorrow did, I had higher hopes, but I never really did expect them to make the leap from monster-movie to 100% up-to-date depictions at the drop of the hat. And even if certain artists did set out with this intention at the start of the project, with all of the moving parts of a film production, especially one of this caliber (I heard at one point they were spending upwards of 350,000 dollars a day) it would not surprise me if the original vision or intention got a bit mucked up in the process when some executive stepped in and said "no, let's do it this way" (the recent shoe-horned voiceover ruining the otherwise promising WWD reboot comes to mind).

I'll also say this
Even if the film had done what it promised and created an accurate depiction of the Hell Creek Formation and the flora and fauna within it, I still 100% believe people would find issues and pick apart the work for it. I mean if you just peruse some of the toy threads here, you'll find some strong scientific model offerings that still get put under a microscope and decried for (at a glance) minor details. Universal could have given us a perfectly feathered Anzu with proper hands and wings, but the eye's might not have been big enough, or the beak might have been the wrong shape/length, or the tail would have been an inch or two too long etc. etc. etc.

So yeah, I'm disappointed that this film won't be doing any favors when it comes to reconciling the two communities, as I had really hoped to see a decrease to the increasing back-biting I'm encountering on a day to day basis. However, even if the film had done a better job, I'm sure there still would have been issues that would "absolutely have" to be pointed out. But at the end of the day, it is a step. The most main-stream piece of media that influences the general public's perception of dinosaurs is finally feathering their creations (accurately or not), and that will hopefully help the more casual viewers gain a new understanding and desire to learn more. And even though this opening has some disappointing designs, we still have some as of yet unrevealed critters that hopefully do an even better job than the promising Moros, so I'll continue to hold onto a little hope. 

[Shadowknight1]

What I've seen leaked looked neat, if not as accurate as I would want.  But...

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Is it just me or do the osteoderms on the Giganotosaurus make it look more like Warpath: Jurassic Park's Acrocanthosaurus rather than Giganotosaurus?

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[Syndicate Bias]

What I've seen leaked looked neat, if not as accurate as I would want.  But...

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Is it just me or do the osteoderms on the Giganotosaurus make it look more like Warpath: Jurassic Park's Acrocanthosaurus rather than Giganotosaurus?

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No you're not the only one who thinks that. I am trying my hardest to ignore that lol

[Syndicate Bias]

S @Syndicate Bias

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Serious anachronism aside, I actually enjoyed that sequence. My dude was trying to relax and get their teeth cleaned out, and then a challenger appears. Can't blame it for getting its butt handed to it. What I also appreciate is that while the fight choreography was perhaps a bit too similar to the JPIII fight, the Giganotosaurus did not directly kill it by breaking its neck. Instead it seems that the slip into the riverbed was what did it. I also appreciate it just walking away and not standing there doing a victory roar.

Now I'm just wondering how it will be handled in the final film. Based on what articles and interviews with Trevorrow are saying this was all done to set up a sort of rivalry in the present, with the T. rex winning. Not the biggest fan of that direction because it still seems to me they are wanting to have the Giganotosaurus as a villain, versus just a destructive and dangerous force of nature, but will still need to wait and see how it plays out then. Perhaps it may be a good time to showcase the strength of the T. rex jaws by then. Something they've failed to do since JPIII.

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If there's at least one good thing about this whole intro sequence though, is that the behaviors did feel very natural, which is not something the World films have accomplished often. The lack of music during the entire thing was also an interesting decision. I certainly approve of the lack of it during the fight.

And it also crushes me I may have to wait another year still before I can get my hands on the potential figures. At the very least the Moros and Giganotosaurus (and the Lystrosaurus revealed a while back) are must haves for me.

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Iguanodon and the new Quetzalcoatlus too, even if I love the original one still, with its pycnofibers and pretty colors.

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@Reuben03 Same here. Biggest disappointment for me. I guess I set my expectations too high, but when someone promises accuracy I would expect them to deliver, and I suppose seeing how well done the Moros was, I got that impression that maybe this time, they would finally do it right...


Edit: Found a better quality leak. Some thoughts:

Spoiler

The Quetzalcoatlus does indeed have pycnofibers after all! Yes! The Pteranodons do appear slightly different from the Jurassic World ones, but only color wise, with one in particular having an almost TLW coloration. Still look bald and shrinkwrapped from what I can tell, unfortunately. Still can't tell if the Ankylosaurus is the same old one or not. I'm guessing it probably is.

The Igaunodon has a striped pattern on it with darker brown(?) stripes, and white stripes behind the darker ones, alternating. Can't make out the coloration much more it though. Kind of a brownish golden coloration with some white patches here and there. I guess not too dissimilar from the classic WWD styled ones in all honesty.

The Giganotosaurus seems to have a darker and jagged striped pattern, maybe dark green in coloration, overlaying a lighter coloration. I guess similar to what was on the leaked animatronic. I am really loving its design. It really does stand out from the rest of the theropods so far, although I'm not sure it really needed the huge scutes in this case, but well the Allosaurus has them as well, and they are distantly cousins I guess.

Someone posted this render on instagram, comparing it to a screenshot that looks very much like it. Not sure where they found it honestly.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CQTx5KhARmx/

That said I definitely do think the Jurassic World Evolution one had a more scientifically sound Gigantosaurus design (no huge scutes), but I must say I vastly prefer the coloration of this new design instead.

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I share the same outlook on things as you I am a little weary of the way things might go despite

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The Giga minding his own business until Rexy showed up and somehow that makes him into a villain later down the line

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but otherwise I am excited for what's to come.

[Faelrin]

@Shadowknight1

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Someone pointed that out earlier in the thread here when the pic of the animatronic was shared. It certainly does have a similar vibe.


Also come to think of it the way the stripes were applied on the film animal kind of reminds me of the pattern on the unused Giganotosaurus from the PS1 TLW game.

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[Stegotyranno420]

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I seen the full giga body and I am disappointed

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[ITdactyl]

That cliff diving pteranodon was a nice touch. 'love those minor background moments.

I hope that preview's not the only screen time for those new critters; because if that's the only time we get to see them in the movie:

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feathered sadboi M (at 6 seconds)

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has already beaten TLW's 11 second Mamenchisaurus for shortest screen time. 

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Iggy

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comes close at 7 seconds.
I guess these 3d assets really are expensive.

[bone crusher]

OK can we at least all agree that Giga did not kill the Rex by itself, rather the Rex died by falling off a cliff and probably broke his beck from pure bad luck? We'll see a full fledged 5min long T Rex vs Giga fight in present day which should demonstrate Rexy's superior physical strength, being heavier, more robustly built and a much more powerful bite over Giga. I can see Giga counteracts with a slew of slashing claw attacks, bites that inflict slashing wounds which really bloody up Rexy in hope of massive blood loss. Yeah I could see Rexy killing Giga but also dies from blood loss, old age and generally being worn out from constant battles.

Also found this on Insta, not sure where it's originated but looks pretty legit. Love the lighting and texture on Rexy here.

[Shadowknight1]

@Shadowknight1

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Someone pointed that out earlier in the thread here when the pic of the animatronic was shared. It certainly does have a similar vibe.


Also come to think of it the way the stripes were applied on the film animal kind of reminds me of the pattern on the unused Giganotosaurus from the PS1 TLW game.

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I mean, they are relatives.  Similar to the point that CollectA just took their Giga model, raised the spine on its back, and called it an Acrocanthosaurus(despite the fact that Acro's high spine continues up to the neck, that was a big mistake on their part).

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[ITdactyl]

Official outlets shared this teaser.

No more leaks. Official Dominion videos are incoming.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuzRfhlk8mU

*edit* Marketing... where a 16 second teaser for a 5 minute preview of a film is called an "extended look". 

[Mellow Stego]

Hope to see Nanmu make a quetzacoatlus.

[Syndicate Bias]

Oh wow so now that the new footage shows the upper half of the screen I am more aware about those spikes on the Giga. They're noticeably tall even on the head, it looks more like an Acro now.

Also is it just me or is the Giga much taller?