JURASSIC WORLD: DOMINION

[Reuben03]

So they're finally gonna show the 5min prologue on NBC on November 23rd. Time to finally see the Giga in pristine 4k, hopefully. Tho I would prefer a proper trailer at this point.

This prologue is really going to make it or break it about my overall opinion before even watching the entire movie. I really hope this movie is better than JW:FK, and hopefully does not go above and beyond in terms of hybrids/dinosaurs.

well then sadly it's broken it. the prologue makes zero sense and ruins it, but from what ive read and heard, the rest of the movie should be awesome. so i personally ignore it and pretend it doesnt exist.

[Bread]

So they're finally gonna show the 5min prologue on NBC on November 23rd. Time to finally see the Giga in pristine 4k, hopefully. Tho I would prefer a proper trailer at this point.

This prologue is really going to make it or break it about my overall opinion before even watching the entire movie. I really hope this movie is better than JW:FK, and hopefully does not go above and beyond in terms of hybrids/dinosaurs.

well then sadly it's broken it. the prologue makes zero sense and ruins it, but from what ive read and heard, the rest of the movie should be awesome. so i personally ignore it and pretend it doesnt exist.

That's a shame but based on what you're telling me, I'll forget about the prologue and still have some optimism for the movie.

[Reuben03]

So they're finally gonna show the 5min prologue on NBC on November 23rd. Time to finally see the Giga in pristine 4k, hopefully. Tho I would prefer a proper trailer at this point.

This prologue is really going to make it or break it about my overall opinion before even watching the entire movie. I really hope this movie is better than JW:FK, and hopefully does not go above and beyond in terms of hybrids/dinosaurs.

well then sadly it's broken it. the prologue makes zero sense and ruins it, but from what ive read and heard, the rest of the movie should be awesome. so i personally ignore it and pretend it doesnt exist.

That's a shame but based on what you're telling me, I'll forget about the prologue and still have some optimism for the movie.

good idea

this movie should be huge, im fairly confident it might even be up there with the original 3, it should be fantastic. not even for the dinosaurs, this movie seriously looks like its shaping up to be reallly fun.

[Faelrin]

I'm hoping it will be uploaded to youtube officially after it airs there. While I definitely have my issues with it (like one big one, and maybe another minor one) which have been discussed to death earlier in this thread, I still think it would be great to get better looks at the bunch of new species added to it.

Also seems like we might need to wait until February until an official trailer drops during the Super Bowl. Not 100% sure, but lots of folks are expecting that since it isn't dropping now.

Also I ought to mention this in the Mattel 2022 thread too, but NY Toy Fair is happening next year, so I would expect to see the new Mattel stuff for the film revealed during the same month then, if not leading up to it.

[dragon53]

The latest JURASSIC WORLD: DOMINION prologue.


LINK: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkEU6fC_nhY

[Dinoxels]

"Well, there it is"

[Bread]

Not as bad as I thought, but the first half (or more than half) was terrible in my opinion. Last minute or so was actually my favorite. Definitely some TLW vibes to it.

Spoiler

The jump to the past not a fan of it (was this confirmed if it was a sort of looking back 65 million year thing or was it during present day?).
Anyways, yeah I dislike the look of most of the species shown. I dislike how they just add feathers to a JP/JW Tyrannosaurus, looks odd and this is why I was somewhat against them adding feathers to the franchise because I assumed it would look like what was shown in the prologue.
Also, the elephant in the room here, a Giganotosaurus vs. Tyrannosaurus. Well that just about shattered the fossil record (I'm exaggerating and joking). Now a lot of people will be thinking these two therapods lived in the same time period if this is in fact a back to past visual. Maybe others don't have a problem as much as I do, but its just unappealing to my eyes.
Now, what I loved about this prologue was TLW vibe it had. Glad they weren't afraid to add too much destruction or injuries to this scene. They seemed to really hide a lot of kills and injuries in Fallen Kingdom, but based on this prologue it looks chaotic and not afraid to show some injuries or kills.

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[Carnoking]

HOLY LORD.

Okay, stupid paleontological decisions and design inaccuracies aside, I felt that was an objectively well-shot and mesmerizing opening. I loved little details like the Nasutoceratops rolling in the riverbed, the Pteranodon diving from the cliff, and the Moros cleaning the Giganotosaurus' teeth. It all felt so naturalistic in its presentation, and, like I said, on a technical level it was gorgeous. Loved the cinematography, the sound design, all of it. And the sequence at the drive in was just *Mwah* perfect fun. I was pleasantly surprised to see they didn't rely on easter eggs and visual callbacks for that sequence when the root idea of a T. rex interacting with vehicles just sets itself up for innumerable opportunities for that.

[Reuben03]

Not as bad as I thought, but the first half (or more than half) was terrible in my opinion. Last minute or so was actually my favorite. Definitely some TLW vibes to it.

Spoiler

The jump to the past not a fan of it (was this confirmed if it was a sort of looking back 65 million year thing or was it during present day?).
Anyways, yeah I dislike the look of most of the species shown. I dislike how they just add feathers to a JP/JW Tyrannosaurus, looks odd and this is why I was somewhat against them adding feathers to the franchise because I assumed it would look like what was shown in the prologue.
Also, the elephant in the room here, a Giganotosaurus vs. Tyrannosaurus. Well that just about shattered the fossil record (I'm exaggerating and joking). Now a lot of people will be thinking these two therapods lived in the same time period if this is in fact a back to past visual. Maybe others don't have a problem as much as I do, but its just unappealing to my eyes.
Now, what I loved about this prologue was TLW vibe it had. Glad they weren't afraid to add too much destruction or injuries to this scene. They seemed to really hide a lot of kills and injuries in Fallen Kingdom, but based on this prologue it looks chaotic and not afraid to show some injuries or kills.

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i was gonna keep my mouth shut, but its nice to know im not the only one who hates the prehistoric segment!

oh well. nothing i can do to change it. i'll just ignore it so i can enjoy the rest of it.

[Takama]

OK   SO this is basicaly the same crap that was shown earlier in the summer, only extended, and in higher quility.   

My Stance on this film still stands.  In the first time in my life I will not be seeing a Jurassic Film,    Colin Trevorrow lied to us, and I refuse to support this film.

[GojiraGuy1954]

People who were expecting full on scientific accuracy deserved the disappointment that they set themselves up for.

Even if these animals are not EoFauna replicas, levels of detail and attention to the fossil remains like this are a whole new precedent for the Jurassic Park series.
Even the controversial Giganotosaurus can be considered speculative. The animal itself is skeletally accurate aside from the half-pronated wrists. And what looked like Osteoderms can be considered Feature Scales now that we see them in HD. While Giganotosaurus most probably didn't look like this, as far as i'm aware, we have no skin impressions, so it isn't 100% impossible.

[Faelrin]

@Bread

Spoiler

Yep the anachronism (the big issue) and wingless pronated wrist Oviraptor (minor) was what I was getting at above.

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@Carnoking I do have to agree with that. Despite all the fault this thing had, the animals did come across behaving pretty natural which is nice to have. Actually I think I wrote something of the like way back when this first released with F9 and was leaked online.

Spoiler

I will also praise the Moros once again. Definitely one of the best looking dinosaurs this JW trilogy has had yet. The fact the real animal's remains currently consists of a leg and foot gives them a lot of room to work with. I really hope we more of it later on, and Mattel makes a figure of it next year as well. I think it'll look nice next to their Alioramus (which has a little bit of feathering on its neck). I also quite like the Giganotosaurus despite the heavy artistic licensing. Mainly because I think it'll make for a great looking Mattel figure that will stand out well alongside my multiple T. rex, 2 Spinosaurus, and the Indominus rex.

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Edit:
@GojiraGuy1954 Trevorrow shouldn't have gone out of his way to claim it was accurate in the first place, which in turn misled people to think otherwise that maybe this time things would be different, especially after he revealed that well done Moros, which was shocking and exciting to see at the time. People probably wouldn't have raised their expectations otherwise, considering this franchise's track record with being relatively careless with these things. The biggest issue is obviously the anachronism however. It isn't just the lack of research (which is likely also a factor), but really just the fact it's a bunch of Trevorrow's personal favorites cobbled together here, which was explained in an interview article that came out back when this was first shown alongside F9. The accuracy statement also came from other interviews at the time. I'm sure I posted links of those earlier in this thread back then.

People are also allowed to be disappointed with these decisions, especially when dinosaur documentaries are essentially a thing of the past now (seriously the last big one I can think of was Dinosaur Revolution, which was released in 2011, ten years ago, aside from those ones that were exclusive to Curiosity Stream), and this is pretty much the only way to see dinosaurs on screen in some form now.

[Bread]

People who were expecting full on scientific accuracy deserved the disappointment that they set themselves up for.

Truth be told, I knew this would happen, but what disappoints me most is the simplicity of just adding feathers to a JW/JP style Tyrannosaurus. Seems kind of lazy to me.

@Bread

Spoiler

Yep the anachronism (the big issue) and wingless pronated wrist Oviraptor (minor) was what I was getting at above.

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Spoiler

Yep, the anachronism, best word to describe that whole segment lol. This bothers me more so than the whole accuracy issue with each species, minus the Tyrannosaurus feathering as that is just pure laziness in my eyes. This is going to put false information into the public that Giganotosaurus lived at the same time and place as Tyrannosaurus....

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[Reuben03]

People who were expecting full on scientific accuracy deserved the disappointment that they set themselves up for.

Even if these animals are not EoFauna replicas, levels of detail and attention to the fossil remains like this are a whole new precedent for the Jurassic Park series.
Even the controversial Giganotosaurus can be considered speculative. The animal itself is skeletally accurate aside from the half-pronated wrists. And what looked like Osteoderms can be considered Feature Scales now that we see them in HD. While Giganotosaurus most probably didn't look like this, as far as i'm aware, we have no skin impressions, so it isn't 100% impossible.

worst take ngl,

its corporate trash, they could've done way better

[Carnoking]

I think the Giganotosaurus looks really cool from a creature design standpoint. I think the greatest injustice the creators of this did was tout it as a scientifically accurate look into Earth's past. Is there more attention given to accurately portraying dinosaurs and such? Perhaps. But no matter how many hasty feathers you slap on an Oviraptor, that doesn't make it accurate.

I'm trying to find one of the original interviews with Trevorrow (or whoever else went on record to say this was an accurate take on the animals), but I feel like if such statements hadn't been made, then this could have been more widely accepted, as those interviews set it up for standards it would never reach while trying to preserve the feel of "Jurassic". Case in point, I did see in a recent interview concerning the online drop that Trevorrow had reservations about changing the design of the T. rex too much, because at this point that design is as much a beloved character as it is simply a dinosaur. The problem there is that you can't have it both ways; if you're gonna create an accurate look into the past, you have to ditch these entrenched designs, which you can't do if you want to maintain the touchstones of the franchise.

So yeah, I think they should have just advertised it as what it is: a sequence set in the sci-fi world of Jurassic that puts just a little more emphasis on accuracy. Because as part of the fantasy universe that is Jurassic, it's a massive cut above what we've previously seen in regards to the depiction of these animals, and is easily one of my favorite sequences from the franchise thus far. Not only does it go back to portraying them as animals, but it's also gonna do so much to launch the idea of feathered dinosaurs into the mainstream. Still, as a "scientifically accurate" look into the past, yeah it really suffers under those expectations, which is a disservice to the technical execution and vision.

[GojiraGuy1954]

People who were expecting full on scientific accuracy deserved the disappointment that they set themselves up for.

Even if these animals are not EoFauna replicas, levels of detail and attention to the fossil remains like this are a whole new precedent for the Jurassic Park series.
Even the controversial Giganotosaurus can be considered speculative. The animal itself is skeletally accurate aside from the half-pronated wrists. And what looked like Osteoderms can be considered Feature Scales now that we see them in HD. While Giganotosaurus most probably didn't look like this, as far as i'm aware, we have no skin impressions, so it isn't 100% impossible.

worst take ngl,

its corporate trash, they could've done way better

You do understand that the JP fanbase is way bigger than the Paleo one, right?
And that about 60% of the JP fanbase is comprised of awesomebros who hate anything that isn't accurate?
They need to ease then AND the general audience into it.

[suspsy]

Looks like trash, but I knew that already.

And no, the Jurassic Park fandom is not bigger than the general palaeontology fandom.

[Reuben03]

Looks like trash, but I knew that already.

And no, the Jurassic Park fandom is not bigger than the general palaeontology fandom.

eeeexactly.

[Gwangi]

I'm a Jurassic Park fan, and a paleontology fan, and I'm able to disassociate the two without any problem. Maybe it's because I grew up with movies like The Land Before Time, Planet of Dinosaurs, and One Million Years B.C. Dinosaur cinema has never been high art, with maybe a few exceptions. They're usually remembered for showcasing special effects, and not much else. Either way, they were a driving force in sparking and maintaining my interest in prehistoric life.

The preview was fine. It didn't really excite or infuriate me. I'm looking forward to the movie.

[Reuben03]

I'm a Jurassic Park fan, and a paleontology fan, and I'm able to disassociate the two without any problem. Maybe it's because I grew up with movies like The Land Before Time, Planet of Dinosaurs, and One Million Years B.C. Dinosaur cinema has never been high art, with maybe a few exceptions. They're usually remembered for showcasing special effects, and not much else. Either way, they were a driving force in sparking and maintaining my interest in prehistoric life.

The preview was fine. It didn't really excite or infuriate me. I'm looking forward to the movie.

so am i!! its gonna be awesome from what ive read, but i really dislike this preview.