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PNSO: New For 2021

Started by Takama, December 02, 2020, 08:27:09 PM

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Faras

Price of Logan is the same as Sinoceratops.


Psittacoraptor

Quote from: Dinoxels on July 13, 2021, 12:49:00 AM

Also noticed this  :o

Oh, a new line for marine reptiles? Im hoping for plesiosaurs and ichthyosaurs.

Shonisaurus

Quote from: Psittacoraptor on July 13, 2021, 11:03:23 AM
Quote from: Dinoxels on July 13, 2021, 12:49:00 AM

Also noticed this  :o

Oh, a new line for marine reptiles? Im hoping for plesiosaurs and ichthyosaurs.

Hopefully that is how a line of prehistoric marine reptiles would be great. I have confidence in it.

I hope they make a line of pterosaurs and another of prehistoric crocodiles from the Mesozoic one day, it would be super interesting.

Psittacoraptor

avatar_Shonisaurus @Shonisaurus Pterosaurs would be great, too! I think their Nemicolopterus is one of their best figures, they should make an Anurognathus to keep it tiny-pterosaur-company.

SRF

#2084
Quote from: Faras on July 13, 2021, 11:02:15 AM
Price of Logan is the same as Sinoceratops.

That's the price level I would expect. Still a bit pricey for such a small figure though.

Speaking of prices, I've noticed that prices at Model Toy Center and My Online Toy Store for PNSO figures have gone up quite a bit, to even higher levels than in PNSO's own store on Amazon. On top of that Europeans have to pay the VAT charges, so that makes PNSO figures even more expensive. But, ordering from Amazon doesn't come with free shipping, which AliExpress stores still offer.

Is there any known reason for the price increase in AliExpress stores?

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SRF

Thanks to H @HD-man for sharing this image in another thread (and thank you for the compliments on my avatar!). This PNSO T. Rex image reminds me of a certain figure we're expecting... maybe the pose will not be a reclining one after all (come on PNSO, just release some more images already...).



Does anybody know what kind of book this is and what kind of information it could give on their upcoming female Rex?
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Faras

#2086
avatar_SRF @SRF hmm sounds like PNSO asked them to change according to official global prices, can't explain why two stores made same adjustment otherwise.

Not much additional info aside from the cover img it seems, as the words on cover translate to: PNSO rebuild world of dinosaurs 3D book, rebuild mysterious dinosaurs world, experience shocking 3D effects! (bottom right) "carry" dino world home.


PNSO has been posting on Chinese store pages (since new Stego) interesting info explaining features of their new models. As there's been much discussion on Nanotyrannus vs juvenile T-rex, I'll try to translate this one, so... apologise for bad translation ;D (if folks are interested, I might try for Stego, Tarbo, Torvo and T-rex/Sinoceratops bookstands, some interesting info, e.g. Tarbo was probably given grey colouration, robust build and big feets cause it lived in swamps and hunted Sauropods).

Link to store page: https://detail.tmall.com/item.htm?spm=a1z0d.6639537.1997196601.4.835f7484xyZnt5&id=651070531298

How did Zhao Chuang and Yang Yang create Logan the Nanotyrannus

Who is Logan the Nanotyrannus: There's a very special member of Tyrannosauids that live in the same region as T-rex while being half T-rex's size. They have quite some differences in brain structure compared to T-rex, and flat, razor-like teeth instead of T-rex's typical banana-shaped teeth. Scientists thought they might occupy different niches and named them Nanotyrannus - not all scientists agree with that as some Nanotyrannus specimens are considered to be possibly juvenile T-rex nowadays. Some scientists still firmly believe in the existence of Nanotyrannus, and this Logan is a male Nanotyrannus.
*Model design: Zhao Chuang
*Logan the Nanotyrannus: material - eco PVC, hand painted. Size - 17cm x 2.5cm x 6.5cm


Somatotype of Logan the  Nanotyrannus: Adult Nano is about half the size (I think they mean body length here) of adult T-rex based on fossil records. Logan should be a fast and agile predator with a body size of ~5m in length in our reconstruction.
*Size comparison of Nano and T-rex


Head of Logan the Nanotyrannus: Nano has different head shape compared to T-rex. T-rex has wide mouth and U shaped wide jaw which provide strong bites while Nano has narrow mouth and somewhat wide face. We present the uniqueness of Nano skull with this reconstruction.
*Articulated jaw
*Wilson the T-rex's head


Forelimbs of Logan the Nanotyrannus: small arms are one of the most distinct features of T-rex. Despite that adult T-rex can reach 12m in length, its forelimbs are about the size of human arms which look funny on the massive body. Nano has small arms that are proportionally bigger than T-rex's, as you can see on Logan.
*Forelimbs of Logan the Nanotyrannus


Hindlimbs of Logan the Nanotyrannus: Nano has long hindlimbss like T-rex, but there are some differences: T-rex's legs are long and robust while Nano's leg muscles are not as robust, this means T-rex mainly relies on power while Nano relies on speed. So as you can see, Logan is a fast predator that can easily catch preys he likes despite lacking advantageous size amongst theropods.


T-rex and Nanotyrannus: Logan the Nanotyrannus, Alan the baby T-rex, Wilson the T-rex.


PS: I have no clue about what Chinese scientists think about Nano/juvenile T-rex, though majority in Chinese dinosaur community and dino toy forums believe Nano exist; on the other hand, Zhao Chuang once said Nano doesn't exist in one of his old vids. Guess this time PNSO is trying to please to both sides.

SRF

Thank you avatar_Faras @Faras for this extensive information!
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sauroid

i wonder if Logan has a binocular vision...
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Faras

#2089
Quote from: SRF on July 13, 2021, 04:59:34 PM
Thank you avatar_Faras @Faras for this extensive information!

My pleasure  ^-^

Quote from: sauroid on July 13, 2021, 05:16:58 PM
i wonder if Logan has a binocular vision...

Possibly, since they mentioned him having "narrow mouth and wide face". First in hand pics should be post on Baidu by 16th, then we can see :)


Edit: there's rumour on Chinese dino toy forum that Andrea is in reclining pose, but again, rumour is rumour  ;)


imho English and Chinese dino communities took different sides on Nano debate mainly because of different views on private, undescribed specimens like Bloody Mary (Duelling Dinosaurs) and Baby Bob. English communities tend to ignore them until they are studied and published in peer-reviewed articles while Chinese tend to use them as evidences unless they are proven fake. As recent study supports the parsimonious hypothesis that established museum Nano specimens are juvenile T-rex (while also offering unlikely alternative hypothesis: Nanotyrannus is valid with no skeletally mature individuals yet known), how you look at private fossils become crucial: Bloody Mary has forelimbs bigger than Sue's, 4-5 years old Baby Bob has 12 teeth per side of lower jaw which is the same as T-rex while 11 or 13 yr old BMRP 2002.4.1 (Jane) has 17. Baby Bob's jaw is twice thicker than Jane's, etc. Personally I think it's still too early to say Nano is valid/invalid, Hell Creek Formation might had more than one tyrannosaurids which don't necessarily classify as Nano.


HD-man

avatar_SRF @SRF Anytime. Glad I could help. I didn't notice the similarity to Andrea's pose until you pointed it out, so thanks for that.

BTW, I'm surprised the following field guides haven't already been mentioned. I'm especially looking forward to the dino 1. I wonder how it'll differ from PNSO's other dino books, especially in terms of formatting. Ideally, field guides combine the best aspects of natural histories (which are for getting the whole story of dinos) w/the best aspects of encyclopedias (which are for looking up specific dinos):

-Age of Ancient Sea Monsters (Pnso Field Guide to the Ancient World) ( https://www.amazon.com/Ancient-Monsters-Field-Guide-World/dp/1612545300 )

-Age of Pterosaurs (Pnso Field Guide to the Ancient World) ( https://www.amazon.com/Pterosaurs-Field-Guide-Ancient-World/dp/1612545297 )

-Age of Dinosaurs (Pnso Field Guide to the Ancient World) ( https://www.amazon.com/Dinosaurs-Field-Guide-Ancient-World/dp/1612545289 )
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ITdactyl

I'm curious if the field guides will feature different art compared to the "Children's Encyclopedia" version - given that the price difference is just 7USD on Amazon.

HD-man

avatar_ITdactyl @ITdactyl It's also worth mentioning that the dino field guide has similar dimensions to the dino encyclopedia + 12 more pages. I can't wait to see what its interior looks like.
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Leyster

Quote from: Faras on July 13, 2021, 04:36:45 PM
if folks are interested, I might try for Stego, Tarbo, Torvo and T-rex/Sinoceratops bookstands, some interesting info, e.g. Tarbo was probably given grey colouration, robust build and big feets cause it lived in swamps and hunted Sauropods).
That would be great!
"Dinosaurs lived sixty five million years ago. What is left of them is fossilized in the rocks, and it is in the rock that real scientists make real discoveries. Now what John Hammond and InGen did at Jurassic Park is create genetically engineered theme park monsters, nothing more and nothing less."

Faras

#2094
H @HD-man Chinese version of those books are more like collection of Zhao Chuang's artworks than field guides as most pages are pics plus some texts to introduce species in pics. They might alter contents for English version as Chinese ones don't mention field guide on their covers, although I doubt they'd make drastic changes.

Links to Chinese version (pics of content in comment section)
-Age of Dinosaurs: https://item.jd.com/12432392.html#none
-Age of Pterosaurs: https://item.jd.com/12432402.html#none
-Age of Ancient Sea Monsters: https://item.jd.com/12432424.html#none

avatar_ITdactyl @ITdactyl Seems Children's Encyclopaedias contain more texts and more pics of single species without environment to make room for the texts judging from pics in comment section.

Links to Chinese version (tick "only show comments for current item" for better view)
-Secrets of Dinosaurs: https://item.jd.com/11946867.html#none
-Secrets of Pterosaurs: https://item.jd.com/11989026.html
-Secrets of Ancient Sea Monsters: https://item.jd.com/11946869.html

Chinese version of Children's Encyclopaedias were published in 2016 while Field Guides were published in 2018. There are also half sized PNSO Age of Dinosaurs/Pterosaurs/Ancient Sea Monsters with similar page count from a different publisher in 2020. Contents might be affected by years of publish, but sadly there's no info on this online.

HD-man

Quote from: Faras on July 14, 2021, 11:43:32 AMH @HD-man Chinese version of those books are more like collection of Zhao Chuang's artworks than field guides as most pages are pics plus some texts to introduce species in pics. They might alter contents for English version as Chinese ones don't mention field guide on their covers, although I doubt they'd make drastic changes.

Links to Chinese version (pics of content in comment section)
-Age of Dinosaurs: https://item.jd.com/12432392.html#none

I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that's a different book w/the same cover, especially given their very different dimensions (E.g. The Chinese version is over twice as thick). In fact, based on the pics & description, I'm pretty sure that's the Chinese version of Them: Age of Dinosaurs: http://dinotoyblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=7413.0
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SRF

Just a heads up: the Nanotyrannus is now available in PNSO's Amazon store.
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Faras

H @HD-man Hmm Chinese version has 244 pages while English field guide of dinosaur has 252 (200 vs 208 for Pterosaurs and Sea Monsters. English books usually have more pages, this series doesn't have much text so only 8 more). Dimensions wise wise they are the same. Them: Age of Dinosaurs was an old book first published in Chinese in 2013 (didn't come with separate books for Pterosaurs or Sea Monsters), it was taken down/discontinued some years ago when they decided to spilt it into series of three books. One big difference is that texts for Them was written by Han Han (a famous Chinese writer who doesn't work for PNSO) while three books series were written by Yang Yang so no those are not Them: Age of Dinosaurs (although they are indeed some sort of "revision" of Them). Those three are the only Chinese books sharing similarities with Field Guide on Amazon so imho we can be fairly sure they are the same books  ^-^

SidB

BTW, Dan's Dinosaurs is now taking pre-orders for the Nanotyrannus.

Carnoking

40 dollars shipped seems a bit much for that little thing but then again that's nothing new for PNSO.

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