David Silva’s Cyberzoic Series

[Sim]

A physical version of Allosaurus?  Stegosaurus computer model?

I hope he'll correct the Allosaurus thumb claws and give it appropriately elongated ones. I reached out to David and he said be would look into that with Jake Baardse. A shame Safari and PNSO overlooked this detail, David has the opportunity to be the only version that accurately represents this detail along with the Mesozoo.

I appreciate you getting in touch with David about that.  However the Mesozoo and Papo Allosaurus don't have a longer thumb claw than the BotM versions as far as I can see?  Also in the BotM versions the thumb claw is already the biggest claw on the hand, it looks within the range of possibility to me.

[EmperorDinobot]

That armored dinosaur looks really cool!

[Concavenator]

@Faelrin thank you for reminding me of Doug's original sculpts. Based on that, I would say the original does have enlarged thumbclaws indeed, but I've looked for pictures and reviews (I no longer have mine) and the final figure lacks them, they're all the same size, which is inaccurate. I'm aware there are safety reasons, but that's still not an excuse, because they could've made the first claw larger than the other two yet equally blunt, which wasn't the case. For example, the new Safari Baryonyx has its thumbclaw clearly longer than the other 2, and of course that figure passed the safety tests (not to mention its claws appear to be noticeably sharper nonetheless, and from what I've seen this appears to be the case with Safari's newer theropods as well). And yes, I know Baryonyx's thumbclaw was larger than Allosaurus' (both in direct comparison and proportionally) but even if the thumbclaw on the Allosaurus was just a bit bigger than the other 2 that would be okay. But all the claws being the same size, definitely no. If this was another dinosaur that rarely gets done, I probably wouldn't mind, but Allosaurus is my all-time favorite dinosaur, it gets made more or less frequently (good versions is another story) and the enlarged thumbclaw is a well-known trait of it, so I'm looking for a really top notch version to appear.

@Sim those figures probably don't have longer claws than the BotM per se, but I was referring to the proportions. On the Papo and Mesozoo you can see the thumb claw is clearly the biggest. On the BotM, yes the claws are long (which is good because it means Baardse considered the keratin sheaths), but proportionally the difference between the thumb claws and the other 2 is not that pronounced to my eyes. Maybe I'm wrong and they're fine, but based on what I've seen I'm not too sure. Based on what David replied to me, it sounded like he wasn't aware of that detail, he even asked me for references. Afterwards, as I said, he told me he would consult it with Jake Baardse. In any case, if he looks into that and the thumb claws are fine, he won't change anything. But if he realizes the thumb claws could be longer, I guess he will correct them, making for a more accurate model. So it should be fine. I think respectfully approaching companies whenever we have any of these doubts is perfectly fine (if we're talking about scientific accuracy-oriented ones, like this case) and David is super receptive to enquiries like this, which I'm very glad for.

On another hand, am I the only one who finds this detail off-putting about the BotM Allosaurus fragilis?

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That little keratinous structure. I find it oddly distracting. I hope the final figure will lack it, but I'm not holding my breath since afaik I'm the only one who pointed this out...

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[Sim]

I also found that detail on the A. fragilis strange and initially offputting, but I'm used to it now and it no longer bothers me.  I think it's just one of several features that were included to make the A. fragilis more rugged and different to the A. jimmadseni.  I'm more bothered by the wiggly skin lines in the top area of the antorbital fenestra on the A. fragilis, but I don't think it needs changing.  Hopefully it will look better with paint.

The two Allosaurus' head sculpts are visible next to each other in this thread's first post so they can be easily compared to see the differences.  One that stood out to me is that the A. jimmadseni doesn't have keratin on its snout ridges, I guess that could be possible for the real animal.

[ceratopsian]

I've just checked several of my BotM ceratopsians. They each have a very subtle cloaca on the body section very close to where it joins the tail. Shallow and not painted differently from the body. Slit runs across the body from side to side. You do need to look quite hard.

Though the discussion of this has led me to wonder if the BotM ceratopsians and tyrannosaurs have cloacas (when not feathered) present? I would assume so, but don't have any on hand to check (well except my Kickstarter exclusive Centrosaurus/Monoclonius though, but I'd rather not open that up atm). I don't want to have to like sit through a review to find out though, lol.

I checked my BotM Triceratops, no cloaca. Wonder if it has something to do with wanting them to work as (or just evoke) kid's toys like the Jurassic Park dinosaurs, even if they more accurate in most details.

I though BotM Ceratopsians are meant to have lizard-like cloaca slit, similar to what Safari sculpts onto some of their dinos? I have only two ceratopsians, but I can see a very subtle cloaca 'slit' sculpted on both of them.

[Sim]

I wonder if the Allosaurus colour schemes we've seen will be used for A. fragilis or if they will be used for A. jimmadseni.

[Concavenator]

@Sim those are the colour schemes for the BotM (the green one) and Cyberzoic (the brown one) A.fragilis. Though David said he would be modifying that concept art later on because he gave A.fragilis the head of A.jimmadseni.

When it comes to A.jimmadseni, he also said he would base its coloration on that of another iguana species. The black spiny tailed iguana gets my vote!

[Faelrin]

@5aurophaganax I would be down with that. Especially if you mean Ctenosaura similis (I really like the male's coloration with the red orange around the eye, for that extra bit of color flair). Not sure if he's used it before I think Cyclura lewisi (blue iguana) is another good choice too.

[Concavenator]

@Faelrin yep, that's the species I was referring to. Such a cool iguana! The blue iguana would be great too.

[Sim]

@Sim those are the colour schemes for the BotM (the green one) and Cyberzoic (the brown one) A.fragilis. Though David said he would be modifying that concept art later on because he gave A.fragilis the head of A.jimmadseni.

When it comes to A.jimmadseni, he also said he would base its coloration on that of another iguana species. The black spiny tailed iguana gets my vote!

Thanks for the info!

[Tyrannotitan Chubatnis]

Greetings all have some pictures I thought were a great highlight taken at the Legion con by a group member from FB thought they were worth sharing. (not sure how I'm supposed to post the pics though) don't see an option

Just a heads up to those in the New Jersey area- I'll be at LegionsCon this weekend, Nov. 5-6 in Secaucus, NJ! The event is sold out, so I guess if you're going you'd already know. For those that are, be sure to come by our table. In addition, I'll be doing a Q and A session on Sunday at 2pm where I'll be discussing Cyberzoic, BotM, and other toy collecting topics. I hope to see you there!

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[Sim]

Hi, welcome to the forum!  To post pictures, on the post reply page click the image next to the YouTube icon.

[Tyrannotitan Chubatnis]

Hi, welcome to the forum!  To post pictures, on the post reply page click the image next to the YouTube icon.

Thanks, much appreciated, at fist I was hoping I could just uploaded straight from my device like on other sites but after reading the Q&A i relized thats not possible

[Tyrannotitan Chubatnis]

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So here are some images of the  Achillobator

[Tyrannotitan Chubatnis]

Trying to add more here
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[suspsy]

So far, the Fire Clan's armour strikes me as the coolest. And as always, I express my deep desire to learn more about the Water Clan already.

[Halichoeres]

So here are some images of the  Achillobator

Looking good!

It seems like you're getting the hang of it, but here's what I did:

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[suspsy]

The Achillobator gallery is up on Facebook now. I've come to rather like that naked head and neck!

[Flaffy]

Just giving my thoughts on the two giant raptors:

I personally prefer how regal the Utahraptor looks. The osprey colour scheme reminds me of Saurian's Dakotaraptor, and that has always been one of my favorite dromaeosaur designs. The Achillobator is very nice as well of course, a much more rugged look compared to the Utahraptor. The blad head works surprisingly well too. Would pick up both if I could, but will most likely only go for the Utahraptor (price reasons).

[Concavenator]

@Flaffy David actually based the Utahraptor on the harpy eagle.