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HAOLONGGOOD - New for 2024

Started by postsaurischian, January 14, 2024, 10:31:47 AM

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thomasw100

Quote from: Sim on May 17, 2024, 10:57:35 AMThose Gastonia look superb!  I think I'm going to have to get both!  I'm also impressed by the adult Maiasaura with purple on its tail.  If it was a species I was interested in having, I'd enjoy its colour scheme.

My favourite Stegosaurus colour scheme is still number two, but I wonder if it will get produced...  Number three seems to be the most popular.  Looking back at number four, I now feel it isn't for me.  Its red and blue clashes in my opinion.  I hope Haolonggood uses those shades separately in the future, I think they could make some appealing colour schemes.  Same for the shades on the purple-tailed adult Maiasaura.


When I saw the pictures at the website of Lana Time Shop, I was right away excited about the Gastonia. I wonder if the base color of that yellow to orange Gastonia will be exactly the same as the base color of the Euoplocephalus. Although I prefer the yellow Gastonia, Gastonia and Euoplocephalus might look too similar right next to each other. This might be an argument in favor of the green one. Both are really nice, but I cannot afford to get both versions of each model any more. I am running out of space. Especially with all these huge sauropods coming along.


Concavenator

My goodness, that Maiasaura:o That purple variant in particular is gorgeous! Looks like it definitely has the hornlets, but I guess a commission to fix that wouldn't be too expensive.

The Gastonia looks nice, but again, not interested in the genus. I'm far from being an expert on ankylosaurs, but shouldn't Gastonia have a sacral shield? I could be mistaken, but looks like the figure doesn't have it?  ???

Quote from: thomasw100 on May 17, 2024, 06:09:41 AMLana Time Shop posted on their FB page that there is now a poll about the paint schemes of the Stegosaurus. I can already see where this will lead. I wonder why Haolonggood repeats this exercise of asking for feedback on the paint designs, while at the same time they have not asked for feedback on the scientific accuracy of their prototypes.

I get the impression V @vampiredesign meant to say the models from the teaser are already in production, and that changes can't be made (barring a post-release fix like the Ouranosaurus I guess). So getting people to vote which color they prefer would be a way to try to get insight from fans at the level they currently could. I appreciate the intentions behind it, but I agree with you. A discussion/poll about color schemes takes you nowhere, different people are just going to like different colorations. A respectful discussion with references concerning scientific details is very meaningful though, for a scientific company like Haolonggood. I said this already, but that is a practice that could give the company an edge in accuracy vs other versions of the animal by other companies (whose designs were kept under wraps until the announcement). Needless to say accuracy is an important factor when deciding between several figures of a creature for at least a number of collectors. A beautiful figure without known inaccuracies is going to please both the casual and the more committed scientific figure collector. Whereas a beautiful figure with a number of known inaccuracies may still please the casual collector, but might not sell to the more committed collector. There lies the reason why it is much preferable to gain insights concerning accuracy vs colorations.

I hope in the future V @vampiredesign will indeed be able to modify the models upon justified insights from the fans in case any WIPs are shown. Because otherwise and how you said in another post, we get the impression that changes can be made, when they apparently can't, which I think is what happened here. They can also do what most companies do (and HLG themselves, too), just show their models like: "Voilà, here it is", and that also has its pros (and its cons).

For the record, and for the moment though, I still plan to get the Maiasaura and the Amargasaurus (in particular, the species I am really most hyped about from that group teaser), but if HLG doesn't get them fixed I will have to take care of that myself (which unsurprisingly I'd rather not have to). I'm also very much looking forward to seeing the Diabloceratops and the Styracosaurus!

SidB

The anterior and posterior sections of Gastonia's back are certainly clearly differentiated. I'm assuming that the sacral shield is hidden/obscured under a thick dermal layer?

Sim

The Gastonia definitely have a sacral shield, its the area above the hindlimbs.  It's not overly emphasised.

Carnoking

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Those Maiasaura are absolute delights! Might be another case where I'll have to get both variants, especially since they come with the infants!

Not quite as keen on the Gastonia, but the green one would be my go to choice. Reminds me of the only sideshow statue.

MLMjp

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I like the pink color of the baby Maiasaura more than the colors of the adult.

Both Gastonia's are great, but I like the green one a bit more.

Turkeysaurus

I'm fine whether they ask as fans or not. Not all buyers online participate anyway. Also most buyers don't know much about how scientifically correct dinosaurs should look. Polls might effect worse than better.


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Turkeysaurus

There must be at least two choices on coloring. The Plain & The Vibrant. Rest of the options should be between those if available. For example "003" must be.

I wish PNSO take notes from Haolonggood. At least two variations for all dinosaurs... or at worst case, give different colors among dinosaurs look like eachother. (I like their carcharadontosaurs more than tyrannosaurs because of this)

Concavenator

Quote from: Turkeysaurus on May 17, 2024, 12:39:00 PMAlso most buyers don't know much about how scientifically correct dinosaurs should look. Polls might effect worse than better.

That's why I mentioned "a discussion involving references". A person that's not knowledgeable on the topic may not be able to back their statements (I also fail to see why they would participate in such a discussion if they can't add anything to begin with). But if arguments are provided in the form of literature and paleoart references, that can be immensely valuable. Especially paleoart references, as scientific papers can sometimes be hard to understand for the non-specialised person, not to mention all scientific papers are essentially in English, which again may not be so easy to understand to Chinese people like the HLG team.

Bread

Man... Haolonggood is making it hard for me to limit my collecting habits...

*Sighs*

That Stegosaurus sculpt is excellent the way it picks up on holding those vibrant colors! I'm easily choosing 1 as its not a typical color scheme we see with models.

That Maiasaura is an instant purchase, but unfortunately that Gastonia is a pass due to the Euoplocephalus really just grabbing my eyes at the moment. I feel like too many Ankylosaurids/Nodosaurids on my shelf can be a crowd.

Daspletodave

Quote from: Flaffy on May 16, 2024, 04:57:30 PM
Quote from: Quiversaurus on May 16, 2024, 07:10:09 AMAs for the Maiasaura discussion, can anyone post a link to the updated paper describing the hornlets/ridge please? I've never come across it and would like to read further. Thanks in advance!

Less so being "updated", moreso artists mistakenly taking lateral views of the skull or skeletal recnstructions at face value and assuming the small protrusion above the eyes being a diagnostic feature rather than an artefact of a lateral angle. A common but understandable error as not everyone has free access to scientific papers or fossil specimens.
Link: https://www.app.pan.pl/archive/published/app66/app006982019.html

What is new however is the way we restore such structures. Traditionally as seen in the Battat and Carnegie figures, the ridge would be reconstructed as a lateral bar with little to no associated soft tissue structure. Newer reconstructions like those done by Olorotitan suggest that these ridges would've contributed to supporting large nasal structures instead of a simple decorative crest.
Link: https://earthsky.org/earth/juvenile-hadrosaur-fossil-reveals-fleshy-snout/

Prosaurolophus by Julius Csotonyi.

Prosaurolophus seriously needs a figure made. Brachylophosaurus too. Most other important hadrosaurs already have a plastic figure.

Elengassen

I wonder if anyone here could help with a query? I've seen a lot of Gastonia reconstructions with prominent spines over the shoulders, like the Haolonggood figure seems to have:



But there are some, like this one (which the Vitae Zhejiangosaurus is based on) that don't have these:



Does anyone know which is more accurate, or is this unknown? Would be great to know so I can decide which one of those figures to get.

One day we will know the truth about Spinosaurus... but not today.

Sim

As far as I know, the osteoderms of Gastonia have been recovered, but they are disarticulated so their positions can only be guessed.


thomasw100

More Gastonia pictures as per Paleofiguras:


























thomasw100

More Maiasaura pictures as per Paleofiguras:























Sim

Thanks for posting the photos T @thomasw100! :)  It looks like I will get both Gastonia.  The Maiasaura photos show how you can have a nice family group if you get both colour variants!

Turkeysaurus

I don't know if i have will power to resist buying Purple Maiasauria. I don't know if it's a hobby or an addiction at this point.

oscars_dinos

Quote from: thomasw100 on May 17, 2024, 06:09:41 AMLana Time Shop posted on their FB page that there is now a poll about the paint schemes of the Stegosaurus. I can already see where this will lead. I wonder why Haolonggood repeats this exercise of asking for feedback on the paint designs, while at the same time they have not asked for feedback on the scientific accuracy of their prototypes.

Its easy to change a paint scheme its harder to change a mold (even if they have done it before)

oscars_dinos

Also that gastonia is really nice... I think HLG is finally escaping a big problem they've had, the cartoony eye, now they just need to stop with the squiggles, which they have been doing but unfortunately the gastonia has them on its side, I will say they don't look too bad there tho. I do just wish the gastonia was a little, crunchier??? maybe a dark wash could help being out the scale detail especially on the face and the back but betides that it looks great. Also I like the baby

Turkeysaurus

How would you compare PNSO's Sauropelta & Borealopelta vs Haolonggood Edmontonia & Gastonia if you can buy only one of them? I have ankylosaurus already. Need a nodosaur.

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